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nnfx ago

I don't doubt you interpret right what they are doing, why and how, but I see no good reason for us to call it "magic"

It's psychology. You describe very well how it is just manipulation, yet you insist to better call it magic.

These people really do have "superpowers" -- powers beyond the mortal man, simply because they have banded together in concert to focus their magic in greater potency than individuals can.

These people have manipulative skills-- skills beyond those of a single man, simply because they have banded together in concert to focus their manipulative skills in greater potency than individuals can.

I don't see ANY reason why this sentence/ this view isn't the better one. It's the truth. Same sentence including magic isn't truth.

There is no such thing as magic, so where is the benefit of using this word then instead of using the words which exactly describe what is really happening?

I do understand how they think and also why it's working out so well for them, but I also know that it's ONLY different psychological effects responsible.

Really, why does somebody who obv. understands the pure manipulative nature of their doings, use the same terms to describe their doings as they do, when it is obv. that those terms are only based in their insane, non scientiffic believes?

They for example might believe Satan is real and drinking blood of babys gives them superwpowers.

I know, for them it works, because the autosuggestive effect of believing it works (placebo) and also because of various other psychological effects.

So when they tell me now it is magic, why would I say "Yes it's totally magic" when I know better?

For them it makes no difference, but it could cunfuse other people and will probably cause that even less people understanding what is REALLY happeneing or even worse, like implyed in my first post, people who see how good it works for those others would have good reason to start sacrifizing people as well.

I for once know sacrifizing someone wouldn't give me much since, I know placebos wont work well if you know it's a placebo and I think it would be better if everybody would see it like this.

From my point of view all this occult, magical, satanic, ritual stuff only exists, because people who first approached these things didn't understand, that what they experienced wasn't influenced by some kind of magical spirit but all had just to do with the nature of human mind. They just didn't understand that and I don't even blame them, because we had to analyze the human mind for thousands of years before we were able to explain these psychological effects and to understand how deep and complex the human mind is.But nowdays?

But why would we want to keep this misinformation? We are currently watching what happens when people believe this shit.