I found a Chicago area hot dog and hamburger place called Portillos and a 50 hot dog megapack flown right in to anywhere in the United States was only 173 dollars. My thing was even if he got 2000 hot dogs from this place that would still only be close to 7 grand, not 65 grand. I mean I know that there are probably better hot dog stands than this Portillos that might be expensive but still it seems just way to excessive to simply be just hot dogs and hamburgers.
When you get to the email where they share a single slice of pizza, however, it's hard to really refute what's going on here. We're definitely overlapping threads here, but if all of us get the bigger picture we can stop debating things which are staring us straight in the face.
And honestly, just HOW MANY emails can an intelligence company have about hot dogs, pizza, and weird shit? They run a "PIZZA International Delivery" website, for no apparent reason. I mean, it's just so beyond coincidental it's mindboggling.
"While some children working as domestics are well treated and attend school, others are neglected, exploited and physically or sexually abused. [...] the recruitment of children in Antananarivo under false pretenses for "legitimate" employment in coastal cities as waitresses and domestic servants."
So could it have become code because they use being a waitress as a cover for prostitution?
Good lead thank you so much for posting it could become key to understanding previous emails better.
Yah but seriously, pizza's no good if it sits in a delivery guy's car for 30 min, much less a 4+ trip from CHI to DC. Annnd I've read more than once that there's no outside food permitted at the WH. Now maybe $65K would be the cost of flying a special chef and his unique ingredients out - CHI pizza is pretty special... but even then... you've got to deal with hot dogs and "waitresses"...
I heard someone mention once that transporting specialty meat frozen or on dry ice isn't uncommon. And I'm sure the president can break the rules if he wants. While "waitresses" does imply prostitutes, there's no real reason to think it would mean underage. This email doesn't seem particularly incriminating to me.
$65000 worth though? I feel like that event would've been big enough to make the news. Like wouldn't the owner of the restaurant in CHI be advertising "...Obama likes my pizza (or dogs) so much he ordered $65,000 worth..."? I sure as shit would. I'd be the most famous hot dog vendor ever.
Yup saw this too. Dan Burges responds "Anthrax included..." to the ingredients question. This seems like some inside joking that's typical office shit. All of StratforAustin is included in the chain, whereas in the other email, there are only 4 specific email addresses.
However, once again Aaric (I hate that name spelling so much) the "waitresses" guy is in the middle of it. I'm curious to know if the weather was really "nasty" in Austin that day. I bet it probably was.
Getting "nasty" weather in Austin seems rare. I checked the local news and nothing stuck out to me as being odd, either. A case of police brutality, a showing of "War on Democracy", and expansion of war in the Middle East are all that really seemed "nasty".
However, STRATFOR's email server was rooted on December 14 (edit: 2011, sorry).
They did publish a document for the Marines on the locations and capabilities of carrier strikeforces. Obviously related to expansion of war in the Middle East.
In what context would it even make sense to put waitresses in quotes? And 65k on pizza and hot dogs? Sure, maybe if you're feeding all of DC... This is definitely some code.
After reading this email i am thoroughly convinced Hot Dogs is code for people involved. Remember in that movie Hostel http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 , the people involved with the organization all had tattoos of dogs.
yes i thought the same thing up until this email refereed to "All you hot dogs out there". read it again friend. if they were directly corresponding to people refereed to as hot dogs it obviously isnt code for lil boys. at least not in this instance.
Or maybe they are... all men were little boys once. Gross irony or he's actually just playfully calling them hot dogs like people who show boat etc... I call my dog (an actual dog) "you ding dong" sometimes.
i think there are more references to waitress like if they are the same as last time count me in kinda thing its just so overwhelming that no one questions these actions even amonst themselves
shortymcbossypants ago
I found a Chicago area hot dog and hamburger place called Portillos and a 50 hot dog megapack flown right in to anywhere in the United States was only 173 dollars. My thing was even if he got 2000 hot dogs from this place that would still only be close to 7 grand, not 65 grand. I mean I know that there are probably better hot dog stands than this Portillos that might be expensive but still it seems just way to excessive to simply be just hot dogs and hamburgers.
bidentime ago
There should be some expense reports available through a FOIA request.
EndThePizza ago
I'm sure the president is allowed to skirt the rules a bit if he wants to.
RebelSkum ago
When you get to the email where they share a single slice of pizza, however, it's hard to really refute what's going on here. We're definitely overlapping threads here, but if all of us get the bigger picture we can stop debating things which are staring us straight in the face.
And honestly, just HOW MANY emails can an intelligence company have about hot dogs, pizza, and weird shit? They run a "PIZZA International Delivery" website, for no apparent reason. I mean, it's just so beyond coincidental it's mindboggling.
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/18/18817_re-headcount-for-pizza-.html
EyeWideOpen ago
Very interesting! Could "waitress" be code for a human trafficked prostitute?
A quick search for "waitresses" on wikileaks shows a lot of stuff about human trafficking..!
This one for example: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10PRISTINA77_a.html
Or this one: https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08ANTANANARIVO164_a.html
So could it have become code because they use being a waitress as a cover for prostitution?
Good lead thank you so much for posting it could become key to understanding previous emails better.
EndThePizza ago
I would guess "waitress" would be a prostitute, but I'm not going to guess anything more sinister without further evidence suggesting such.
WatcherWatcher ago
Yah but seriously, pizza's no good if it sits in a delivery guy's car for 30 min, much less a 4+ trip from CHI to DC. Annnd I've read more than once that there's no outside food permitted at the WH. Now maybe $65K would be the cost of flying a special chef and his unique ingredients out - CHI pizza is pretty special... but even then... you've got to deal with hot dogs and "waitresses"...
EndThePizza ago
I heard someone mention once that transporting specialty meat frozen or on dry ice isn't uncommon. And I'm sure the president can break the rules if he wants. While "waitresses" does imply prostitutes, there's no real reason to think it would mean underage. This email doesn't seem particularly incriminating to me.
WatcherWatcher ago
$65000 worth though? I feel like that event would've been big enough to make the news. Like wouldn't the owner of the restaurant in CHI be advertising "...Obama likes my pizza (or dogs) so much he ordered $65,000 worth..."? I sure as shit would. I'd be the most famous hot dog vendor ever.
EndThePizza ago
Idk, everything the military buys from contractors is like 10x overpriced...
RebelSkum ago
When we were still I on Reddit I had found a connection between the people in this email and ANOTHER sketchy email chain at STRATFOR: https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/17/17922_re-pizza-.html
(Aaric Eisenstein makes the reference to "waitresses" in the email OP links to)
The conversation alone is enough to ask, "what the fucking fuck kind of food do these people order":
Aaric Eisenstein: "Anybody want to order pizza for delivery? It's nasty out there."
Reva Bhalla: "i might be interested since Dan Burges lunch cheated on me again "
Dan Burges: "Yeah, but here she is, at my desk, jumping on the security lunch bandwagon...."
Reva Bhalla: "thats right...chicago style hot dog baby"
Greg Sikes: "Does Fred have anything to do with the ingredients used for the security lunch bandwagon???"
WatcherWatcher ago
Yup saw this too. Dan Burges responds "Anthrax included..." to the ingredients question. This seems like some inside joking that's typical office shit. All of StratforAustin is included in the chain, whereas in the other email, there are only 4 specific email addresses. However, once again Aaric (I hate that name spelling so much) the "waitresses" guy is in the middle of it. I'm curious to know if the weather was really "nasty" in Austin that day. I bet it probably was.
RebelSkum ago
Getting "nasty" weather in Austin seems rare. I checked the local news and nothing stuck out to me as being odd, either. A case of police brutality, a showing of "War on Democracy", and expansion of war in the Middle East are all that really seemed "nasty".
However, STRATFOR's email server was rooted on December 14 (edit: 2011, sorry).
They did publish a document for the Marines on the locations and capabilities of carrier strikeforces. Obviously related to expansion of war in the Middle East.
WatcherWatcher ago
It was actually a pretty mild day with little (.1") precipitation on 12/14/07 in Austin. Not what I would call "nasty" https://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KATT/2007/12/14/DailyHistory.html?req_city=&req_state=&req_statename=&reqdb.zip=&reqdb.magic=&reqdb.wmo=
RebelSkum ago
STRATFOR's Austin branch has an unhealthy obsession with Chicago-style pizza and hot dogs
NoStoneUnturned ago
In what context would it even make sense to put waitresses in quotes? And 65k on pizza and hot dogs? Sure, maybe if you're feeding all of DC... This is definitely some code.
Brimstone18 ago
After reading this email i am thoroughly convinced Hot Dogs is code for people involved. Remember in that movie Hostel http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450278/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1 , the people involved with the organization all had tattoos of dogs.
nimblenav ago
hot dog means boy in pedo language
Brimstone18 ago
yes i thought the same thing up until this email refereed to "All you hot dogs out there". read it again friend. if they were directly corresponding to people refereed to as hot dogs it obviously isnt code for lil boys. at least not in this instance.
WatcherWatcher ago
Or maybe they are... all men were little boys once. Gross irony or he's actually just playfully calling them hot dogs like people who show boat etc... I call my dog (an actual dog) "you ding dong" sometimes.
chickyrogue ago
waitresses serve or get served!
Mediocrity ago
Maybe it's both. Sort of like making someone dig their own grave before you pop em.
chickyrogue ago
wow such a sad thought
i think there are more references to waitress like if they are the same as last time count me in kinda thing its just so overwhelming that no one questions these actions even amonst themselves
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