WH visitor logs - I don't know the date of this email soo please someone else check
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records
"In December 2009 we began posting all White House visitor records for the period from September 15th onwards under the terms of our voluntary disclosure policy. In addition, as part of our new policy, we post records dating from January 20th that are specifically requested on an ongoing basis. For more information, read the White House blog post announcing the new policy."
possible that "dogs" means parents?
recently found this : "David Koresh told them to call their parents "dogs"; only he was to be referred to as their father." - of the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas
We already know that this sort of thing happens from Ted Gunderson
https://youtu.be/gLEFBIqKufg?t=28m22s
"he and others taken from private school and driven in limousines to iowa, and placed on private jets and flown to Washington DC for sex orgy parties with congressmen and senators"
I didn't assume that. I calculated transport costs. I also pointed out how, unless he got approval (and I can't find any evidence of this party, which we would have if he got approval...Though I 100% welcome some) it's illegal to use tax payer funds for something like this.
Just reading the first few paragraphs it sounds pretty much the same as it was her back in the 90's.
Community organizers, teachers (both male and female) family and child services, lawyers, police, etc etc.
It is definitely a global pattern. Enough to make you question everything..
Think about this.. What we have here is people who act in a open but shadow world. They stand in front of our faces and pretend to be something they are not.
Now consider the 1920's, Germany was a pit of despair, liberalism was pushed by bankers and educators and all the powers that be.
Propaganda machine was already well established by the time Hitler came along and trashed their liberal pedophile world and brought Germany to a grand and beautiful glory. Amazing films out there by the way.
Then we get to the hazy parts, war, destruction, end of war, then a story narrative that seems too far fetch to be true and full of holes but 70 years of propaganda and we are all convince we know the truth. But if this cult is the same cult that normalized pedophilia in the liberal world they worked to create back then.. It is feasible that everything we think we know is a lie.
If you look at how hard they are hammering Trump with propaganda, it seems the same as back then, during WW2.
What kind of a mad man makes the worlds standard for labor protections like the 40 hour work week limit and animal protection laws, even environmental protection laws all under Hitler.. He did single out Jews for some reason, but why would he make a resettlement agreement with Palestine for them to go there. Why didn't we care about the 130,000,000 people Stalin murdered?? I think these people have been, in the past, shadowing the Jews pretending to be the same but have now out grown them. I think Hitler caught onto that and why he wanted them out and those he wasn't sure of he put in camps to safe guard national security and protection for them as well.
None of the numbers add up. I personally have stats from 1938 (IN PRINT) that don't wash with the stats they teach to this day. Keep all people divided and the truth can't be exposed. UNITE all people and see what happens!
I'm off on a rant now...
Questions... Like if you think about it, look at the kids reactions to their pedophile teacher as described in the link you gave me.
Most of the time, the threats they receive are against their families. Their own instinct is to protect their loved ones.
That is the nature of humans, to love and sacrifice. We have to stop the teachers from the psychological brainwashing that uses this to take advantage of them.
I'm gonna stop there for tonight, I'm thinking too much for an old man. Food for thought for a younger person!
Pretty much every nation is in the clutches of the UN / EU since WW2. I think this goes all the way back in history long before any of us. Even long before WW1, so we are looking at elite families and huge followings, a full blown cult!
Not particularly relevant but never know where clues lay.
The modern age tempted them to try to go global I think, taking over the world powers, then came the internet age and they tripped themselves big time and now we are onto them. We can't stop now, we can't move too fast and we can't move to slow. Unfortunately the only legal organization I have any faith in is the FBI and they don't have jurisdiction outside the US which will make extradition next to impossible if the government maybe implicated in a country where there are suspects connected.
If you do find something HUGE, do not just report to one agency, report publicly to multiple agencies. BUT not something you could be harmed over. Make sure all agencies know you sent that info to all other agencies. Like post in a public form like YT, Twitter, and preferably continue to remain anonymous.
My experience in the matter was limited to the western US and Canada. But the leads link all over the world. Too many for me to even recall any more. I can say that you need to watch child services, feminist orgs, domestic violence help services that are specifically connected to feminist orgs. Schools are another place to keep an eye on. If you have children, you need to learn a way to get them to openly and honestly communicate with you. That maybe the most difficult thing to do considering the brainwashing they do at the schools. Encourage homeschooling, never put pressure on your children to talk. Be ready to let them talk. They will usually talk one on one, often at the most inconvenient times.
Look for suspect orgs, business's etc, gather evidence. Video, photo's, if you are a lab worker and you can run DNA analysis and you think you found one these "pizza" places or other such food services. Pick up a slice and run it through the lab discretely. Look for human DNA in the meats.
NEVER engage! NEVER reveal your true intentions. And when you have evidence to share, be sure to remain anonymous.
Use Opera web browser so you can use the free VPN feature, use site like this one. Use an account that has no connection to you. And do not upload pictures from your camera or cell phone, strip the file info by using a program like Irfanveiw. Don't destroy the original though in case it becomes legal evidence in the future. That all depends the risk level of evidence.
It depends what your best skills are. If you are skilled at decryption, memorizing movies, TV shows and coded communications, you could watch and decipher possible coded messages.
Not my area of expertise but I know they communicate certain things such as locations and future events.
And above all DO NOT BECOME PARANOID.! Or you will go crazy finding things that are not there and that wont help either.
At 48mins or so in open secret they play the x-men commentary track with brian singer and some other child molester and their tone changes a tad when they mention hot dogs like its an inside joke.
The other noteworthy factoid is that DEN.net produced a show about two gay guys that move some teenage boys into their house. (The did this in real life and molested the shit out of that kid)
1) your pizza price is insane 2) $60,500 to fly a plane (even though the white house has a free plane) to pick them up is grounds for impeachment (allocating tax payer money for private parties) 3) even at your absurd prices that would be 800 slices of pizza and 400 hotdogs. So 1200 slices and dogs. That would be about 300 guest in the white house for a fucking pizza and hotdog party. 4) the "parties" at the white house are public record, I don't seem to be able to find one with 300 random guests being served pizza and dogs 5) the president must get approval for banquets, regular food cost are owed by him every month 6) I am not trying to PROVE anything. I am very skeptical. I am just running the numbers.
That's something I can't get my head around yet. On the one side, I can't believe someone would actually order children to the white house, to abuse them. On the other side, I can't get my mind around the cost of 65.000 dollars. But until there is more evidence, I'll not take this as evidence for more child abuse. It can aswell be "just" a corrupt way to pay the favorite pizzeria a huge amount of money. An abuse of tax money and a way to get money to an old friend. Something like "give me 100 pizzas for the prize of 65.000 dollars, this way I'll deal with your debt, since you helped me back in the day". Until there's no clear proof, we shouldn't act as if this was done to order children-sex-slaves.
I was one of those who was a part of the investigations through multinational and highly classified team, survivor.
Assignments to infiltrate crime syndicates to locate and destroy child sex trade. From a more diplomatic approach, Much better results led to government involvement, everything from child protection services to education to police to judges and on and on and then we were disbanded. Not sure what I can say so I wont say much but that was 40 years ago.
But after thinking about it for the last 30 years or so, I realized it wasn't to stop it, it was supposed to be locate and take over or kill their competition as it were, eliminate any similar business operating outside the cohesion of their one world crime ring. Oh and I just posted above but since you mentioned Korea, I found this Korean restaurant in Canada that seems suspicious. Found it when I was trying to figure out what they were talking about in the emails referring to "Owl of Minerva" http://owlfamily.ca/index.php?view=about
the Stratfor stuff certainly has some very weird pizza related emails, though there is some speculation it is to do with credit card scammery or some other thing
The Jim Jones reference in there is pretty disturbing too
OP is right. Even though it is hearsay it is probably worth looking into. I don't know who would have the expense reports - it might be the GAO. The original email stated that $65,000 if taxpayer money was spent so this is an approximate range of expenses to look for. I doubt that the money was spent on flying in literal hot dogs and pizzas, but the real question is WHO a large amount of money was paid to around the time stated. If taxpayer money was spent, there would be a record of it. If you find WHO got paid, you can then start to figure out WHAT they got paid for.
Since this was taxpayer money spent, there should be an accounting of it and this should be accessible by a FOIA request. Determining the agency to submit a request to is the problem right now, that's why I suggest GAO as a possibility.
It's a puzzle piece. That piece might fit into this puzzle, it might not. The piece shouldn't get thrown out, nor should it get pounded into the wrong spot. But if someone finds a piece, they need to see if anyone knows where it may go. And this is a very interesting piece that probably fits somewhere.
... "If we get the same "waitresses," I'm all for it!!!"
Maybe it was an only slightly risque normal sex orgy with a liberal helping of simple elite callgirls? Still illegal, would explain why they're being so weird about everything, but not quite as utterly fucked up as the whole pedophile ring thing implies.
Any way you look at it, the naive conclusion makes zero sense.
Would be interesting to see what quantities of food were purchased for similar events. How many people were at this "Pizza/Dogs" event?
Rough back of the envelope calculations. If you used around half of the funds for transport costs, there would be $32.5k worth of Pizza & Dogs. Making an assumption of ~$8 per dog and ~$15 per pizza, and an order ratio of 1:1 (same number of dogs as pizzas) that would give you a little over 1400 pizzas AND 1400 dogs. That feeds a whole lot of people.
Not to mention, would the supposed source of these Pizzas/Dogs have the facilities to make that many Pizzas and Dogs, and wouldn't they be pretty soggy by the time they got to D.C., even if flown directly on a private jet, you'd still need to get them to/from the airport, etc. It'd take hours.
As has been previously mentioned, the White House does not allow food to be brought in for security reasons. All food is made on site in the White House kitchen.
I had my response open for 10 minutes looking into this claim. Google yields better results than duck duck go. But the president actually isn't supposed/allowed (vague terminology I know) to order outside food. Guest chefs can't come with ANY pre-prepared foods. And then I found this on eddit, and assumed many thought like this. (though he doesn't take into account delivery etc):
"$65K in pizza and hotdogs at that. Let's say that it's actually pizza and hotdogs, if split evenly that's 6500 pizzas at $5 a piece(my note: $5 for a pizza is insanely low), and 32,500 hot dogs at $1 a piece(my note: also insanely low). What kind of massive gathering at the whitehouse is he trying to feed? Is he hosting some type of eating competition or something?"
Note: the assumption about not being allowed to order outside food seems to come from thethrillist.com, with no source or proof. So take that as you will. Another Note: cost of a chicago hotdog not counting flying it in and packaging it: (from the highest rated on yelp) $3.50 EACH. Pizza: (from highest rated yelp)$10. So lets say we do $45,000 in pizzas, that's 4,500 pizzas. And the rest in dogs, that's 5,714 dogs. Okay, let's get CRAZY and say it was $20k to package, fly, have security pick them up, the kitchen inspect them, and people serve them ($65k was the total budget): that's $45,000 for food which would mean $30k for pizza is 3,000 large pizzas, and $15k for dogs is 4,285 chicago (big) dogs. Still an insane number. Lets assume each guest ate 2 dogs and 2 slices of pizza (pizza is 8 slice), that's 7 THOUSAND guests.........
I thought the source was from a documentary on the White House, I'll try to find it. The administrative statutes/rules are vague but they do mention the outside food ban. Now, obviously presidents can and do eat food outside of the whitehouse. I imagine the secret service needs to be there to supervise it being made.
I live close enough to Chicago the Chicago-based chains are out this way. @Maeglor speaks the truth. One large, stuffed Giardano's pizza with all the toppings is $35 before the insanely high sales taxes. And ordering a bunch of those and having them shipped would weigh a ton and take a lot of space on a truck/plane.
BUT
Hot dogs? NO Chicago hot dog stand/restaurant makes their own hot dogs. They come from one of a handful of distributors and buns are all basically the same. If Obama had hot dogs shipped for that kind of money, he was merely giving a LOT of free money to some well connected jagoff that he probably met at the bathhouses he used to frequent. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he'd be that wasteful with taxpayer money. His entire 8 years has been nothing but pissing money away.
So let's say $45k at your higher end prices. 857 pizzas at $30k. 2,500 dogs at $15k. 8 slices of pizza per and dogs = 9,356 individual slices of pizza and single dogs. 2 of each per person = 2,339 people. That is a lot for a white house dinner.
Sorry, I was only going off of your last post with numbers (just above mine). I'd say $20,000 is a fair estimate which makes the entire thing totally ridiculous.
Which reminds me.. When investigating the meaning or rather alternate meaning of "Owl of Minerva" I found this weird Korean restaurant in Canada http://owlfamily.ca/index.php?view=branch The site changed a bit since I first found it but still seems weird.
If you think about it, the food service industry is the best place for these types of crimes. Very easy disposal of the bodies, no evidence left, everybody eats it!
Truthplease5 ago
WH visitor logs - I don't know the date of this email soo please someone else check https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/disclosures/visitor-records "In December 2009 we began posting all White House visitor records for the period from September 15th onwards under the terms of our voluntary disclosure policy. In addition, as part of our new policy, we post records dating from January 20th that are specifically requested on an ongoing basis. For more information, read the White House blog post announcing the new policy."
Truthplease5 ago
possible that "dogs" means parents? recently found this : "David Koresh told them to call their parents "dogs"; only he was to be referred to as their father." - of the Branch Davidians in Waco, Texas
Ksolver ago
We already know that this sort of thing happens from Ted Gunderson https://youtu.be/gLEFBIqKufg?t=28m22s "he and others taken from private school and driven in limousines to iowa, and placed on private jets and flown to Washington DC for sex orgy parties with congressmen and senators"
llm2016 ago
Shill confirmed. Fool no one.
piratse ago
I didn't assume that. I calculated transport costs. I also pointed out how, unless he got approval (and I can't find any evidence of this party, which we would have if he got approval...Though I 100% welcome some) it's illegal to use tax payer funds for something like this.
Pepper-theDoctor ago
I remember reading about black and white color coding to flag pedo tastes - similar to the lgbt hanky code. I dont have a link, anyone else?
LionParty ago
http://archive.is/w7alr Archive of that for safekeeping.
roundhouse1776 ago
Brain is slang for getting a blow job. Rappers say it quite a bit.
mrpeoples ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loz_J8J8bZU&t=776s
ghtdak ago
Obama is obviously involved in all this. Think back to the Birther movement. This guy was in the program way before he ever hit US soil.
Spooncooker ago
Pizzabrains instas gross
ThorTheWonderful ago
Just reading the first few paragraphs it sounds pretty much the same as it was her back in the 90's. Community organizers, teachers (both male and female) family and child services, lawyers, police, etc etc. It is definitely a global pattern. Enough to make you question everything.. Think about this.. What we have here is people who act in a open but shadow world. They stand in front of our faces and pretend to be something they are not. Now consider the 1920's, Germany was a pit of despair, liberalism was pushed by bankers and educators and all the powers that be. Propaganda machine was already well established by the time Hitler came along and trashed their liberal pedophile world and brought Germany to a grand and beautiful glory. Amazing films out there by the way. Then we get to the hazy parts, war, destruction, end of war, then a story narrative that seems too far fetch to be true and full of holes but 70 years of propaganda and we are all convince we know the truth. But if this cult is the same cult that normalized pedophilia in the liberal world they worked to create back then.. It is feasible that everything we think we know is a lie. If you look at how hard they are hammering Trump with propaganda, it seems the same as back then, during WW2. What kind of a mad man makes the worlds standard for labor protections like the 40 hour work week limit and animal protection laws, even environmental protection laws all under Hitler.. He did single out Jews for some reason, but why would he make a resettlement agreement with Palestine for them to go there. Why didn't we care about the 130,000,000 people Stalin murdered?? I think these people have been, in the past, shadowing the Jews pretending to be the same but have now out grown them. I think Hitler caught onto that and why he wanted them out and those he wasn't sure of he put in camps to safe guard national security and protection for them as well. None of the numbers add up. I personally have stats from 1938 (IN PRINT) that don't wash with the stats they teach to this day. Keep all people divided and the truth can't be exposed. UNITE all people and see what happens!
I'm off on a rant now... Questions... Like if you think about it, look at the kids reactions to their pedophile teacher as described in the link you gave me. Most of the time, the threats they receive are against their families. Their own instinct is to protect their loved ones. That is the nature of humans, to love and sacrifice. We have to stop the teachers from the psychological brainwashing that uses this to take advantage of them. I'm gonna stop there for tonight, I'm thinking too much for an old man. Food for thought for a younger person!
No_pizza_just_God ago
You can't bring outside food into White House so $65K hot dogs would be impossible http://htpoint.com/news/10-security-measures-used-for-the-white-house/
ThorTheWonderful ago
Pretty much every nation is in the clutches of the UN / EU since WW2. I think this goes all the way back in history long before any of us. Even long before WW1, so we are looking at elite families and huge followings, a full blown cult! Not particularly relevant but never know where clues lay. The modern age tempted them to try to go global I think, taking over the world powers, then came the internet age and they tripped themselves big time and now we are onto them. We can't stop now, we can't move too fast and we can't move to slow. Unfortunately the only legal organization I have any faith in is the FBI and they don't have jurisdiction outside the US which will make extradition next to impossible if the government maybe implicated in a country where there are suspects connected.
If you do find something HUGE, do not just report to one agency, report publicly to multiple agencies. BUT not something you could be harmed over. Make sure all agencies know you sent that info to all other agencies. Like post in a public form like YT, Twitter, and preferably continue to remain anonymous.
ThorTheWonderful ago
One thing I can say with humor and seriousness at the same time, our western world is making North Korea look mighty good these days.
ThorTheWonderful ago
My experience in the matter was limited to the western US and Canada. But the leads link all over the world. Too many for me to even recall any more. I can say that you need to watch child services, feminist orgs, domestic violence help services that are specifically connected to feminist orgs. Schools are another place to keep an eye on. If you have children, you need to learn a way to get them to openly and honestly communicate with you. That maybe the most difficult thing to do considering the brainwashing they do at the schools. Encourage homeschooling, never put pressure on your children to talk. Be ready to let them talk. They will usually talk one on one, often at the most inconvenient times. Look for suspect orgs, business's etc, gather evidence. Video, photo's, if you are a lab worker and you can run DNA analysis and you think you found one these "pizza" places or other such food services. Pick up a slice and run it through the lab discretely. Look for human DNA in the meats. NEVER engage! NEVER reveal your true intentions. And when you have evidence to share, be sure to remain anonymous. Use Opera web browser so you can use the free VPN feature, use site like this one. Use an account that has no connection to you. And do not upload pictures from your camera or cell phone, strip the file info by using a program like Irfanveiw. Don't destroy the original though in case it becomes legal evidence in the future. That all depends the risk level of evidence.
It depends what your best skills are. If you are skilled at decryption, memorizing movies, TV shows and coded communications, you could watch and decipher possible coded messages. Not my area of expertise but I know they communicate certain things such as locations and future events. And above all DO NOT BECOME PARANOID.! Or you will go crazy finding things that are not there and that wont help either.
SilverBanana ago
It is very probably a code. But I do not buy it is a code for child sex slaves.
0xFFF ago
If he is talking in code the 65.000$ could be 650.000$ or 6 500 000$ Just don't get too fixated on 65k
southartful ago
At 48mins or so in open secret they play the x-men commentary track with brian singer and some other child molester and their tone changes a tad when they mention hot dogs like its an inside joke.
The other noteworthy factoid is that DEN.net produced a show about two gay guys that move some teenage boys into their house. (The did this in real life and molested the shit out of that kid)
The show was called chads world.
https://youtu.be/4eeGX4SlF1s
piratse ago
1) your pizza price is insane 2) $60,500 to fly a plane (even though the white house has a free plane) to pick them up is grounds for impeachment (allocating tax payer money for private parties) 3) even at your absurd prices that would be 800 slices of pizza and 400 hotdogs. So 1200 slices and dogs. That would be about 300 guest in the white house for a fucking pizza and hotdog party. 4) the "parties" at the white house are public record, I don't seem to be able to find one with 300 random guests being served pizza and dogs 5) the president must get approval for banquets, regular food cost are owed by him every month 6) I am not trying to PROVE anything. I am very skeptical. I am just running the numbers.
Maeglor ago
Wow. Really good stuff.
So goddamn refreshing to ask for a source, receive a good one, then to get a follow-up like this; is it my birthday?!?
Honestly: thank you.
madhatter67 ago
Okay....so you love chicago hotdogs and want some for your shindig at the whitehouse.....do you....
1: Source the ingredients and fly in your favourite Chicago hotdog chef to prepare them on site, fresh and lovely
2: Fly the hotdogs themselves in, requiring reheating at the other end, I'd imagine they might go a bit soggy and less than ideal
Apply Occams razor to the above
Initiate ago
That's something I can't get my head around yet. On the one side, I can't believe someone would actually order children to the white house, to abuse them. On the other side, I can't get my mind around the cost of 65.000 dollars. But until there is more evidence, I'll not take this as evidence for more child abuse. It can aswell be "just" a corrupt way to pay the favorite pizzeria a huge amount of money. An abuse of tax money and a way to get money to an old friend. Something like "give me 100 pizzas for the prize of 65.000 dollars, this way I'll deal with your debt, since you helped me back in the day". Until there's no clear proof, we shouldn't act as if this was done to order children-sex-slaves.
ThorTheWonderful ago
I was one of those who was a part of the investigations through multinational and highly classified team, survivor. Assignments to infiltrate crime syndicates to locate and destroy child sex trade. From a more diplomatic approach, Much better results led to government involvement, everything from child protection services to education to police to judges and on and on and then we were disbanded. Not sure what I can say so I wont say much but that was 40 years ago. But after thinking about it for the last 30 years or so, I realized it wasn't to stop it, it was supposed to be locate and take over or kill their competition as it were, eliminate any similar business operating outside the cohesion of their one world crime ring. Oh and I just posted above but since you mentioned Korea, I found this Korean restaurant in Canada that seems suspicious. Found it when I was trying to figure out what they were talking about in the emails referring to "Owl of Minerva" http://owlfamily.ca/index.php?view=about
etherael ago
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/18/18817_re-headcount-for-pizza-.html
Chris Douglas wrote:
Close family, one slice huh.
Nothing weird about that at all.
madhatter67 ago
Good find, I hadn't seen that one before...
the Stratfor stuff certainly has some very weird pizza related emails, though there is some speculation it is to do with credit card scammery or some other thing
The Jim Jones reference in there is pretty disturbing too
southartful ago
Their subscription sevice store fromt project was codenamed pizza. They ordered shit tonnes of pizza, check my submissions for the full links list
primaryappellation ago
....?!
bidentime ago
OP is right. Even though it is hearsay it is probably worth looking into. I don't know who would have the expense reports - it might be the GAO. The original email stated that $65,000 if taxpayer money was spent so this is an approximate range of expenses to look for. I doubt that the money was spent on flying in literal hot dogs and pizzas, but the real question is WHO a large amount of money was paid to around the time stated. If taxpayer money was spent, there would be a record of it. If you find WHO got paid, you can then start to figure out WHAT they got paid for.
Since this was taxpayer money spent, there should be an accounting of it and this should be accessible by a FOIA request. Determining the agency to submit a request to is the problem right now, that's why I suggest GAO as a possibility.
birds_sing ago
It's a puzzle piece. That piece might fit into this puzzle, it might not. The piece shouldn't get thrown out, nor should it get pounded into the wrong spot. But if someone finds a piece, they need to see if anyone knows where it may go. And this is a very interesting piece that probably fits somewhere.
Maeglor ago
I mean, your source is a YT vid with no source, but a lot better than nothing.
I expected just a pic of the two women, but will dig a bit in my own, thanks for more info.
They fuck and kill children.
8_billion_eaters ago
As @RicksonStark said, no outside food is allowed into the whitehouse. Michelle Obama is a he-she. It has tits and a dick. It is the 1st Thing.
ThinCrust ago
Here's the WikiLeaks link to the source e-mail: https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1223066_re-get-ready-for-chicago-hot-dog-friday-.html
Just registered for an account here at Voat. First post. Reporting for duty.
etherael ago
... "If we get the same "waitresses," I'm all for it!!!"
Maybe it was an only slightly risque normal sex orgy with a liberal helping of simple elite callgirls? Still illegal, would explain why they're being so weird about everything, but not quite as utterly fucked up as the whole pedophile ring thing implies.
Any way you look at it, the naive conclusion makes zero sense.
sixgorillion ago
If you take this picture in consideration, it get's really fucking disturbing. http://i.imgur.com/D0jSiHX.png
Maeglor ago
Source?
Maeglor ago
Like.... a wall you jack off on?
Are you "WE'RE PAINTING YOUR WALL" boy?
Gumbatron ago
Would be interesting to see what quantities of food were purchased for similar events. How many people were at this "Pizza/Dogs" event?
Rough back of the envelope calculations. If you used around half of the funds for transport costs, there would be $32.5k worth of Pizza & Dogs. Making an assumption of ~$8 per dog and ~$15 per pizza, and an order ratio of 1:1 (same number of dogs as pizzas) that would give you a little over 1400 pizzas AND 1400 dogs. That feeds a whole lot of people.
Not to mention, would the supposed source of these Pizzas/Dogs have the facilities to make that many Pizzas and Dogs, and wouldn't they be pretty soggy by the time they got to D.C., even if flown directly on a private jet, you'd still need to get them to/from the airport, etc. It'd take hours.
Ksolver ago
And all that for a "private" party. If each person has half a pizza and one dog each, that's around 2000 people, not exactly a private party.
PresudentMcCheese ago
Chicago pizza is good, but probably Obama was bringing in kids AND animals. There's another code in the mails that people haven't picked up on yet.
Maeglor ago
Pissa=girl frankfurter=boy
What animals are you talking?
Nicefind ago
Look at the other Stratfor emails. This is the least damning
aileron_ron ago
Would you still complain if they ordered fried chicken and water mellon.
0fsgivin ago
The question is have other presidents had these kinds of expenses.
HarveyKlinger ago
Pizza MAPS?
Artlife ago
Even if this was proven to be for actual food, Jesus that's more money than my family lives off of for a whole year.
LargePizzaWithGate ago
As has been previously mentioned, the White House does not allow food to be brought in for security reasons. All food is made on site in the White House kitchen.
piratse ago
I had my response open for 10 minutes looking into this claim. Google yields better results than duck duck go. But the president actually isn't supposed/allowed (vague terminology I know) to order outside food. Guest chefs can't come with ANY pre-prepared foods. And then I found this on eddit, and assumed many thought like this. (though he doesn't take into account delivery etc):
"$65K in pizza and hotdogs at that. Let's say that it's actually pizza and hotdogs, if split evenly that's 6500 pizzas at $5 a piece(my note: $5 for a pizza is insanely low), and 32,500 hot dogs at $1 a piece(my note: also insanely low). What kind of massive gathering at the whitehouse is he trying to feed? Is he hosting some type of eating competition or something?"
Note: the assumption about not being allowed to order outside food seems to come from thethrillist.com, with no source or proof. So take that as you will. Another Note: cost of a chicago hotdog not counting flying it in and packaging it: (from the highest rated on yelp) $3.50 EACH. Pizza: (from highest rated yelp)$10. So lets say we do $45,000 in pizzas, that's 4,500 pizzas. And the rest in dogs, that's 5,714 dogs. Okay, let's get CRAZY and say it was $20k to package, fly, have security pick them up, the kitchen inspect them, and people serve them ($65k was the total budget): that's $45,000 for food which would mean $30k for pizza is 3,000 large pizzas, and $15k for dogs is 4,285 chicago (big) dogs. Still an insane number. Lets assume each guest ate 2 dogs and 2 slices of pizza (pizza is 8 slice), that's 7 THOUSAND guests.........
LargePizzaWithGate ago
I thought the source was from a documentary on the White House, I'll try to find it. The administrative statutes/rules are vague but they do mention the outside food ban. Now, obviously presidents can and do eat food outside of the whitehouse. I imagine the secret service needs to be there to supervise it being made.
Maeglor ago
A good Chi dog can cost $6 and a good Chi Pizza can cost $35.
Try ordering catering from Portillo's and see what your bill is.
It's never gonna be $65,000 because Obama fucks little boys, but the price can jump on ya
HarveyKlinger ago
I live close enough to Chicago the Chicago-based chains are out this way. @Maeglor speaks the truth. One large, stuffed Giardano's pizza with all the toppings is $35 before the insanely high sales taxes. And ordering a bunch of those and having them shipped would weigh a ton and take a lot of space on a truck/plane.
BUT
Hot dogs? NO Chicago hot dog stand/restaurant makes their own hot dogs. They come from one of a handful of distributors and buns are all basically the same. If Obama had hot dogs shipped for that kind of money, he was merely giving a LOT of free money to some well connected jagoff that he probably met at the bathhouses he used to frequent. It shouldn't surprise anyone that he'd be that wasteful with taxpayer money. His entire 8 years has been nothing but pissing money away.
piratse ago
So let's say $45k at your higher end prices. 857 pizzas at $30k. 2,500 dogs at $15k. 8 slices of pizza per and dogs = 9,356 individual slices of pizza and single dogs. 2 of each per person = 2,339 people. That is a lot for a white house dinner.
HarveyKlinger ago
I think you're either forgetting or discounting the HUGE cost to deliver it. It was probably done on a chartered jet dedicated to go get the food.
piratse ago
I counted $20k for that.
HarveyKlinger ago
Sorry, I was only going off of your last post with numbers (just above mine). I'd say $20,000 is a fair estimate which makes the entire thing totally ridiculous.
DonkeyRichard ago
https://sli.mg/Bpqy1y
Maeglor ago
Looks like he's tryn spread dem cheeks
DonkeyRichard ago
He had Chinese takeout
ThorTheWonderful ago
Which reminds me.. When investigating the meaning or rather alternate meaning of "Owl of Minerva" I found this weird Korean restaurant in Canada http://owlfamily.ca/index.php?view=branch The site changed a bit since I first found it but still seems weird.
ThorTheWonderful ago
If you think about it, the food service industry is the best place for these types of crimes. Very easy disposal of the bodies, no evidence left, everybody eats it!