Amanda Kleinman from Heavy Breathing (pizzagate)

submitted ago by EyeSeeYou

Hi guys, so the other day I was reading a post where someone mentioned Amanda Kleinmans Linkedin was taken down and on her page it was stated that she was an academics advisor at George Washington University. So I decided to look her up and I may have found her. Now, I don't want this to turn into a witch hunt (pun intended) because this may not be her. I just wanted to post my findings with the hope that others may be able to add more information to connect more dots. However, the evidence I have found has left me with the belief that it is in fact the same person.

Here is a video of Heavy Breathing performing at Comet Pizza for those of you that are not caught up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PR1w6IkpE6o&t=11s

The profile page at GWU's website: https://advising.columbian.gwu.edu/amanda-kleinman-0 (notice her interests include live music)

Image: https://postimg.org/image/94kdqfmz7/ (just in case they remove her page)

Notice her sunglasses and she is the only person on this page with her face obstructed.

https://advising.columbian.gwu.edu/our-team

Now take a look at this picture and the sunglasses

https://postimg.org/image/nuy0g5747/

Now here's the kicker, looking closer at her profile picture I noticed a sign behind her that was cut off, but you can make out BEST DC.

https://postimg.org/image/rlzosfann/

It looks like the picture may have been taken at Besta Pizza in DC! If anyone here is familiar with Besta, please help confirm it with a comment below if possible.

Now, if this is in fact her, I would never want a woman like this advising my child and I'm sure you guys wouldn't either.

Keep up the good work guys, we will win.

VieBleu ago

Edit: After further investigation, James Alefantis may be doubling as Majestic Ape (Heavy Breathing lead singer) also. In certain instances the person appears to be a man. Amanda Kleinman IS the lead singer though just to be clear.>

Sorry but to be clear, you need to change this edit. Kleinman was NEVER the lead singer. Ever. The Apes cycled through 3 different male singers, before deciding to do away with a lead singer and use sound clips pulled from the internet to form "words" that are inserted into their music. It appears that this is part of The Apes reforming into Heavy Breathing. This is documented in almost any interview of the band, such as this one I just found - https://hometownsoundsdc.com/tag/heavy-breathing/.

Please update your edit. There is a LOT of misinformation that floats around about Klienman/Alefantis, and if you don't change your confusing assertion that Kleinman is a lead singer in the band, I'm afraid your post will be part of that misinformation. Thx.

Fateswebb ago

What I find interesting is that she has a degree in hearing and speech and the ape uses a voice mod, as well as she has a degree in special education, which would come in handy, then also I believe it is saying she is legal advisor to the shark tank lady, who is insanely rich. Just some observations doesn't prove anything.

Fateswebb ago

Well, I have seen video of bests pizza, and what it looked like to me is it's for carry out and delivery only. Not much of a dining room? But maybe someone correct me.

Chinada3 ago

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Chinada3 ago

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Majestic Ape- Do you recognize these HANDS part2 (Chinada3 TROLLED) by t... https://youtu.be/RRHlcw8m7Fk

VieBleu ago

HERE IS EVIDENCE THAT TILTS TOWARDS THEORY THAT ALEFANTES IS MAJESTIC APE

I didn't think Alefantis acted the role of Majestic Ape because I thought he was fit and his body didn't match the body of the dumpy female character that is Majestic Ape. Now check this out- a picture I've never seen before. Alefantis body looks quite similar to Majestic Ape's body (as seen in the Heavy Breathing I No Luv video linked below for example) http://www.transformerdc.org/images/uploads/gallery/529/transformer_11th_annual_silent_art_auction_and_benefit_party,_november_22,_2014_-221__large.jpg

Now check out these close ups of Majestic Ape's mouth - gosh it rings a bell. close up, it doesn't look like a woman's mouth after all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZkojrcD_0IYouTube This video also states J. Comet is 5'6" tall, 160 pds. No supporting documentation. If true it could account for how Majestic Ape looks like a sort of "dumpy" female while J. Comet looks fit. With awkard clothes and a bra I suppose his drag could transform him into a dumpy broad pretty easily. He is partial to heavy crocheted pieces and flats, which really don't do a thing for his figure.

Finally here is a recent radio interview with both Alefantis and Kleinman. http://thekojonnamdishow.org/audio/#/shows/2016-11-30/pizza-propaganda-the-local-fallout-from-fake-news/92750/@00:00 Hearing Kleinman's actual voice and comparing it directly with Alefantis', it sounds more like the voice in the notorious "Everybody Has Preferences" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkHPA0iSBbA. However the jury is still out on this one for me, this disgusting "comedy" act may be put on by Kleinman.

You can stop the action right at the begining of this video to see Alefantis' mouth and compare it to Majestic Ape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkHPA0iSBbA Bonus: ? Is this the guy https://www.flickr.com/photos/bendroz/11848374144 who stars as "The Pedo Perv" with Majestic Apes' in the video I NO LUV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo_euND7Acs

FuckUredditFuckuSpez ago

"I didn't think Alefantis acted the role of Majestic Ape because I thought he was fit and his body didn't match the body of the dumpy female character that is Majestic Ape. Now check this video out at 14:33 - a picture I've never seen before. Alefantis body looks exactly like Majestic Ape's body."

You didn't post the video link... unless I'm confused about something.

VieBleu ago

It's funny. I have fixed this post twice now. The first time I had to fix it, the audio clip was in the wrong spot, had to change things around, I thought "oh I must have been tired and done it wrong." I made SURE I had everything in place. With your comment I go and look and sure enough, it is mixed up again. Some strange fuckery going on here - which makes me think this is a more important post that we even think it is. I'm going to fix it again now, may take me a little bit of time. Thanks for the heads up.

Chinada3 ago

great post

VieBleu ago

appreciated.

Fateswebb ago

I believe you have debunked the Amanda Klein is majestic ape, and even mostly prove it's James, that is certainly his chin... thanks..

VieBleu ago

wasn't me, credit to the video maker. But I still maintain Keinman is the red mask in many of the HB vidoes, especially Neutered Noel. She is Alefantis' beard.

I think a LOT of times people casually say AK/Majestic Ape meaning Amanda K in her red mask - I almost wrote that above. I am going to start saying "puppet Amanda Kleinman" or "Red Mask AK" instead, maybe we can start to make this distinction. Why this seems to be trolled a lot IDK but I'm all for more accuracy.

Splinterinyourmind ago

naw, you can hear a woman's voice when she gets close to the camera recording her. The voice is just altered. I actually think OP nailed it.

Artoo ago

Apparently they had other trouble in Mobile. Hover over the first photo. "4 sad apes hope that the 87' Ford van will get out of Mobile alive" https://myspace.com/majesticape/photos

jonnythaiwongy9 ago

Deviant fantasists, fucking disgusting people.

yabbadoody ago

then there's this - Heavy Breathing's "Airtight" album cover, featuring bizarre symbolism and what could only appear to be a dead (asphyxiated?) child front and center:

https://f4.bcbits.com/img/0006088578_10.jpg

Now, just for giggles - playing "free association" here - you wouldn't suppose that one of these all-metal coffins (made by one of Jimmy comet/Alefantis's followers) might be "airtight", do you? Or that it might be "wired up" to deliver shocks, etc? Horrifying to think of, and yet...

https://i.sli.mg/m9UgrV.png

And this isn't suggestive at all... while not suffocating, the child in the image is clearly holding a phallic representative to his mouth.

http://i.imgur.com/XF2Xew9.png

Personally, I find the song and album artwork for HeavyBreathing to be laden with "codes" and suggested, secret meanings that could only gain context in this sort of (twisted) fashion. It's clearly a paedo-friendly band.

yabbadoody ago

Now Amanda Kleinman also APPEARS to be a DC based photographer. I found it while image searching, and it's def her image which links to this page, even though the image doesn't appear anywhere at the site:

http://www.amandakleinman.com/artist-cv/

yabbadoody ago

I know a lot of band folks, touring types, and these stories are unfortunately NOT uncommon. Some are even weirder. It goes with the territory of being in odd places, cow towns where you've never been before, and being "the odd people out" of the crowd. It's not all bad, but nothing special to see here, from a small-time touring musicians point of view.

yabbadoody ago

just found this for Amanda Kleinman, the article makes passing reference to "playing mitzvahs" - I wasn't aware punk or electronica was big on the mitzvah scene, but here's the article:

http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/arts/article/13035636/art-burn

And best I can tell, in many/most of the videos, Majestic Ape IS a dude... the hands are a dead giveaway. My best guess at present? It's Alefantis.

EyeSeeYou ago

She is definitely the lead singer, but sometimes I believe she has a stand in that might be James Alefantis. The last link you posted is definitely her.

starseedlover ago

Here is Amanda Kleinman's official response to being "lumped into a right-wing conspiracy theory." https://www.facebook.com/heavybreathing/posts/1227401980667694

"Ever get lumped into a right wing conspiracy theory that you knew nothing about? I sure did, along with my band, Heavy Breathing. Last week, when Hillary Clinton’s emails were released, a notoriously scandalous internet message board quickly invented a wild story that suggested Clinton, her campaign chairman John Podesta, and beloved local restaurant Comet Pizza & Ping Pong were part of a secret pedophile ring. No such pedophile ring exists to my knowledge. This internet group found my YouTube video of my performance character -- Majestic Ape -- doing a comedy roast for a friend on her 30th birthday, an event which happened to be held at Comet. In junior detective, connect-the-dot, conspiracy fashion, some members of the aforementioned message board chose to use Heavy Breathing’s images, music, and videos to tie us in with the imagined Podesta conspiracy in the hopes of fanning the flames and getting people on board for a witch hunt. While Heavy Breathing’s music and imagery can be juvenile, dark-humored, cryptic, and sometimes in poor taste, it's nothing other than the work of three people who like to hang out and make music and images together. This harkens back to the mid 1980’s, when uptight people (PMRC, religious groups) believed certain bands were “satanic” and were corrupting the youth. “Kiss” was thought to be an acronym for “ Knights in Satan’s Service” ; AC/DC was said to be an abbreviation for “Antichrist Devil Children.” How sad that little has changed. I guess one positive thing coming out of this Is that, even in 2016, rock bands can still piss off angry, fearful, paranoid folks. Just check out the classy comments we’ve been getting: https://www.youtube.com/user/HeavyBreathingBand The best and classiest comments can be read on our last video: https://youtu.be/zo_euND7Acs Lots of good old-fashioned threats, racism, and hate going on here. My extended family happens to be a community of artists, musicians, activists, writers, film-makers, and scientists. We all need to remember that the hateful mob mentality is still going strong. I (We) will not be bullied and we will not be censored. We all have many battles ahead. Sending love, strength, resilience, and persistence. -Amanda Kleinman, and the Heavy Breathing team."

EyeSeeYou ago

Page not found. I guess she removed it. I wonder why? lol Thank you for sharing and pasting it here, otherwise it would be gone.

starseedlover ago

Hmm, still up for me. But here's an archive http://archive.is/TtRXJ

EyeSeeYou ago

Just read the comments. It's amazing how she makes herself out to be the victim, yet she called the FBI and asked if she was being charged or indicted? What innocent person would ask the FBI if they are being charged? She is definitely in on it and most of her and her friends comments are deflections and insults.

starseedlover ago

The feeling I got was that she's a lot like other musicians/artists that use spooky or shocking stuff in their "art" to make a statement. Too naive to know. She makes a point to talk about how her music taste. The designer of her band's shirts Erick (who is actually the founder of the band) went to RISD. I"m more inclined to say they're hipsters and trying to be edgy than actually part of the pedo ring. She might know more than she's letting on, but my gut says wrong place, wrong time.

EyeSeeYou ago

Thank you.

Keltoi ago

Has anyone checked out the bands page? If you look on page 6 of their songs it has one called "All the Children" with a suggestive image of a little boy. Cant seem to find the lyrics yet though.

Heavy Breathing

yabbadoody ago

right saw that. ugh. the art is pretty suggestive as well, not uplifting but quite enlightening for those seeking clues.

Chinada3 ago

they want you to think Majestic Ape is Klein, so we don't see it is a MAN & possibly the owner of the ping pong hut

Chinada3 ago

truther1 ask moderator to kill EyeSeeYou . mofo is a shill anything you see to discredit the EyeSeeYou narative...he will dismiss & point you back to AManda the fall guy

yabbadoody ago

AMANDA - "fall guy", or actually part of a brother-sister act?

Think about it. I'm working that angle on a hunch.

EyeSeeYou ago

Is Amanda your mom or something? Clearly you haven't read anything that was posted here and have an agenda otherwise you wouldn't be so hysterical about it. Quit spamming your nonsense and go back to Comet Pizza please.

Chinada3 ago

go away you loser shill. i have completely exposed you

yabbadoody ago

no, I'm not related... but FACIALLY, and by way of BAND, and other indicators, she APPEARS to be related to Alefantis. It's a logical inference, at any rate.

Chinada3 ago

i vote this thread down to the troll shelf.. NO WAY MAJESTIC APE is a WOMAN, MAJESTIC APE IS A MAN IN DRAG. that makes PEDOPHILE JOKES.. who eles but the CLUB OWNER would let him host Birthday Parties & Shows. his stand up routine included a joke about JARROD from SUBWAY enjoyin the sounds from the basement? wtf . now i have 4 or 5 new accounts(trolling my comments on my YOUTUBE Channels, to try and PUSH THIS AMANDA KLIEN DISINFO. CHinada3 didn't come to the internet to make friends. it is MY OPINION that MAJESTIC APE is ACTUALLY A MAN with a red ski mask. MAJESTIC APE is 5'5. so is James ALefantis. the lips match. the nails match. Majestic Ape- Do you recognize these HANDS #COMET #PIZZAGATE & the Pedophile Apocalyps https://youtu.be/iZkojrcD_0I

EyeSeeYou ago

You can't down vote yet, not enough points and judging by your lack of self control, you will never have enough points. Have a nice day :-)

yabbadoody ago

Eye See You, I see you - and Chinada3 is right, there are DEFINITELY videos (the fundraising video in particular) where Majestic Ape is indeed a man, in drag.

Its not deniable, and your insistence to the contrary only exposes you as being either unobservant, abstruse, or wilfully ignorant of obvious facts. Sorry, just sayin.

Chinada3 ago

yabbadoody . thank you because the shills really want to protect Majestic Ape from Alefentis at all costs...

jonnythaiwongy9 ago

At first I thought it was a man, but at other times I thought it was a woman...a have a feeling that, like someone else said, its her character, but sometimes she gets others to stand in, a man most likely, cud well be Alefantis, I get the feeling he'd enjoy the joke.

LargePizzaWithGate ago

Is this story really that out of place for a rock band? She might be suspicious but there's nothing wrong with the story. I got trashed like this two years ago.

The_Periodic_Fable ago

Thank you this is great work!

EyeSeeYou ago

It is her, read the comment above, she uses a voice modulator to deepen her voice. She is part of the band, if it isn't her in the mask, then where is she at all the shows?

Chinada3 ago

EyeSeeYou.. the only comments are you making comment to yourself. operating 2 accounts up in here. get a life

comeonpeople ago

It's "Best of DC" as in whatever restaurant she is in had received some recognition from a newspaper/etc.

I would never want a woman like this advising my child and I'm sure you guys wouldn't either.

Why, because you don't like her sense of humor?

EyeSeeYou ago

Your attempt at damage control will not work, the cat is out of the bag and it is climbing up the curtains. Have a nice day :-)

EndThePizza ago

That is a really poor photo to use as a professional photo. It would be cheap to use that on LinkedIn, but it's especially odd to have it on the advisors webpage. All the other people have normal photos like I'd expect to see.

pizzagape ago

Christopher Boutlier is the guy with the "I love Children" shirt. The pic where he's standing between the the two shirtless guys. Instagram is Cboutlier, profile went private same day as Jimmycomet.

EyeSeeYou ago

I was looking at her lips and smile also, seems really similar. I would never want to frame the wrong person, that would be a horrible thing to do, but I am pretty sure it is in fact the same person. Thank you guys for your comments, and if anyone else has any more clues, please post them.

Chinada3 ago

EyeSeeYou? ? ? why would you creat a brand new account accross youtube and now voat? just to add ONLY THI INFO about who the MAJESTIC APE is 100% .. even tho the internet knows MAJESTIC APE IS A MAN IN DRAG. fuck your frameups ... I think the APE is male approx 5'4" 160 lbs. how tall is Alefentis?

EyeSeeYou ago

Sure it is, and Santa Claus is real too. Funny how your comments got up voted so fast, fake accounts much?

Spooncooker ago

I though ape was a dude?

Chinada3 ago

their is a huge push by comment shills with zero content . to push that Majestic Ape is a Woman.to PROTECT THE FACT that MAJESTIC APE is a MAN IN DRAG. in my opinion Chinada3 think Majestic Ape is te Owner of COMET ping pong, but look at the videos and see for yourself. MAJESTIC APE is not the APES..

HomeboyChrisBanned ago

I always assumed it was a man in drag and was kinda shocked to see amanda kleinman behind it

yabbadoody ago

I agree, it couldn't be any clearer by hands alone. It's also very easy for a man to put on yoga pants and stuff something in a bra to mimic breasts. That's all made EXTREMELY easier when wearing a wig, ski-type mask and huge sunglasses... but no gloves, and the hands are DEFINITELY a man's.

My best guess is Majestic Ape as Alfantis in drag. Which might actually be cool and punk, EXCEPTING of course the paedo element - which makes the whole thing sick and sour, with Alefantis HIDING his identity behind... his SISTER?

Now that last part, Alefantis and Kleinman "being brother-sister", is PURE CONJECTURE on my part. HOWEVER, for them BOTH to be involved in a BAND like this - and BOTH to be implicated in what Comet Ping Pong appears to be involved in... and then again, for Kleinman to willingly allow someone such as an Alefantis to use her name and identity to hide behind - I'd say it's a 50/50 shot that they're family, and 50/50 again that they're CLOSE family, quite possibly brother-sister. HUNCH.

Chinada3 ago

here ill leave this for you clown... (+Nicolas Tesla account & +SocietyOfTheSpectacl) are TROLL ACCOUNTS he is a PEDO PROTECTOR so i made him famous on Youtube Story...
Majestic Ape- Do you recognize these HANDS part2 (Chinada3 TROLLED) by t... https://youtu.be/RRHlcw8m7Fk

Chinada3 ago

you are a troll eyeseeyou (+Nicolas Tesla account & +SocietyOfTheSpectacl) are TROLL ACCOUNTS he is a PEDO PROTECTOR so i made him famous on Youtube Story...
Majestic Ape- Do you recognize these HANDS part2 (Chinada3 TROLLED) by t... https://youtu.be/RRHlcw8m7Fk

Spooncooker ago

There's additional footage of him on YouTube. I had assumed he was a dude until I saw the claims it was a woman yesterday

EyeSeeYou ago

Well in every write up about the band she is mentioned (check my link above your comment). I do however believe that James Alefantis may be standing in for her at times. I have added this to the original post. If you look at the different videos of live shows, this person varies in size/shape. She is the lead singer of the band though.

Spooncooker ago

I agree with this. That's my opinion too

CredAndBercuses ago

There's a video out there of a male band member pulling off the mask, but that's not who usually wears it. Also she uses a voice modulator thing to make her voice sound more androgynous.

tury ago

Great post.

We should have this at the top..

CredAndBercuses ago

This is her. I have an backup downloaded of theapes.com, here's just one of many pages of pictures with comments describing who's in them: https://i.sli.mg/vYJUrl.png

I edited out the file:// portion to just show what was the old URL to that page.

I could zip this backup and make a torrent if anyone's interested. 450MB or so, so it won't fit on git.

EDIT: also the "BEST DC" in the background looks like a book to me.

EyeSeeYou ago

So I visited their website theapes.com and here is the 404 error page http://theapes.com/index2.html

These are some seriously sick individuals guys, we need to stop them.

Chinada3 ago

EyeSeeYou is a SHILL ACCOUNTm made comments on 5 of my Youtube videos. with links to this thread. he probably followed me here

vector3rector ago

Here is a directory to theapes.com, with access to other material people haven't brought up.

/new/ 401 Unauthorized ** This is the login if someone wants to have fun.

/pipermail/ 200 OK ** I couldn't get this to open

/pics/ 200 OK

/gfx/ 200 OK

/video/ 200 OK

/mailman/ 403 Forbidden

/misc/ 200 OK

/blog/ 200 OK

/list/ 200 OK

/catalog/ 200 OK

/audio/ 200 OK

/cgi-bin/ 403 Forbidden

Also when searching it's https:// directory, found one more /manual/ 403 Forbidden

 

Here is a link to an article, that I believe should raise some eyebrows.

It seems pretty normal for the most part, except one thing.

Question:

So, does this make DIY spaces more difficult or does it just depend?

Answer:

Some of the best shows we’ve played have been in basements but other times it’s been like a living nightmare. Like, you get to the person’s house and it’s like, two kids on the sofa. And they’re like, “Hey, we can fix you some food.” That happens a lot. But it’s still fun.

Why would a band that has been "touring" since 1999 [according to their websites "diary"]., including Europe in 2002, commit to doing small events, at a private home, for two children? Especially given the type of music they play and the genre of "art" they like to display and joke about. Lets not forget, they said:

That happens a lot. But it’s still fun.

Mind you this article was written in 2012. The first concert at Comet Ping Pong was in 2006.

Last thing. I would like to point you to, is Ms. Amanda Kleinman's state of mind. Below is a copy from her website blog. Notice the author is MajesticApe.

MONDAY, APRIL 21, 2008: How to Have Fun with Your Favorite Junkie: posted by Majestic Ape at 8:24 AM

How to Have Fun With The Family Junkie

  1. Steal his shit first

  2. Hide the spoons

  3. Switch his brown chewy lump with clustered snake turds

  4. Rat on his dealer

  5. Write on his face with a sharpie when he's nodding

  6. Dip his needles in pee- pee

  7. Put tacks on the bathroom floor just before he vomits

  8. Tell him his poetry sucks

  9. Change the locks and bar the windows, this time for real!

  10. Put him in a straightjacket to induce withdrawl and pump and pump a Tammy Faye Baker sermon through the speakers at full blast.

Im just leaving this out here for people to archive and examine on their own.

Knox1646 ago

Great work! Had not noticed the best dc in the back