Okay, stop with this cannibalism BS. And also, stop with the satanism. We have solid leads and circumstantial evidence on the pedo front. These two aspects of the investigation are red herrings. Even if they are true, it is a misuse of resources to dig into it. Yeah it grabs headlines but it sends this whole story into another realm of conspiracies that normies will quickly excuse as "tin foil hat" BS. Stay focused on the leads that actually have some legs.
I agree 100% with you. This should be said anytime a post like this(and it seems like 90% of all posts now) somehow make it past the hard working mods. These disinformation freaks need to be called out. Any leads that don't stem from the polestar emails or demonstratedly proven to be worthy leads related to them are not pizzagate, and should be posted somewhere else(like v/Pedogate or something), or deleted. It seems like these disinfo pedos are hard at work on voat. Evil ultimately fails by its own design, so I'm not discouraged. Still, the research stems from polester emails and all evidence not tied to that and fantasy Reddit cannibal posts definitely do not belong here.
its part of their convoluted belief system like a religious experience for them to gain power and spiritual advancement so it is an important aspect and should be considered not RED HERRINGS its very real to these people practising these darker arts
These people are just disgusting. Of course put the effort into the pedo stuff but have a sub-folder - other sick stuff we think that makes these people even more despicable than the scope of the pedo investigation is showing.
Also, does it really matter if they worship the devil? There's lots of Muslim and Jewish and Christian pedos as well. The only reason why someone would bring up the fact that they are Satanic worshipers is because it's shocking to some people and is good clickbait.
Yes yes yes yes. Very good point. Satanism is not illegal. Actually, just googled it, and turns out cannibalism is not illegal either. The satanism/cannibalism part will send this into the clickbait realm very fast instead of legitimizing it.
Edit: added in more info about legality of satanism/cannibalism
Agreed 100%. The fact that this crap keeps getting posted by the same accounts in other threads where it's completely out of context should make everyone suspicious that this yet another attempt to discredit pizzagate and make everyone look like idiots.
If you have any actual evidence of cannibalism then by all means, but with Spezgate going down and all the incoming attention on pizzagate this looks to me like a desperate effort to shitpost in order to scare away anyone who might have otherwise had an open mind.
I've been following pizzagate since day one and before pizzagate went down I was already well aware of the mountain of evidence regarding past VIP pedophile rings like the Franklin scandal, Dutroux affair, UK Parliament, Jimmy Savile, etc.
Pizzagate is new. Part of the process of investigating a conspiracy is making connections, even if a bit vague, and brainstorming until you can determine which connections are meaningless and which ones are significant. You're trying to get a bird's eye view and see if you can come up with a theory which actually makes sense and which can explain the evidence.
We aren't dealing with cannibals, we're dealing with pedophiles. There's an enormous historical precedent for VIP pedophile rings, and there's a clear explanation involving blackmail and the multi-billion dollar international child trafficking industry.
If pedophiles are out there who aren't a part of government then we should assume there's some incidence of those within government. Those who are in government expose themselves to possible blackmail, and evidence of child sex abuse means they can be completely owned for life.
The person or group, possibly as part of a blackmailing ring, who has the most damning evidence on the most influential people will emerge as the most powerful. Naturally they will use that power to begin promoting those with a proclivity for pedophilia. As the Franklin case clearly shows, elite parties happen where children are provided and influential people end up getting videotaped with hidden cameras. Just think about the level of power that gives the blackmailing ring. The blackmailees cannot say anything about it, so it creates a strong veil of secrecy whereby only those "in the know" can talk about it to one another.
Once they know they are owned they indulge themselves continually, and the veil of secrecy and control, which extends across the three branches of government, media, big business which is connected to government, and any possible investigative bodies, render victims and those of us who understand what's happening powerless to prevent them from scuttling investigations and ordering endless media hatchet jobs on anyone trying to expose them.
As for this post, I've never heard of any VIP cannibal rings. There is no historical precedent for this. Huffman being a cannibal for no reason and then posting about it on Reddit makes no sense. There's nothing here at all that suggests he's a cannibal or a pedophile for that matter. Trying sticking with the people we have actual evidence on rather than giving the Fake News Lamestream Media the "witch hunt" it wants so badly.
For the sake of argument however, since we're forced to speculate about what happens at these parties, let's say there are instances of ritualistic murder combined with some minimal cannibalism. If it happens it's purely ritualistic and an outcome of the widespread pedophilia, it's not a motivating factor in VIP pedophile rings which causes them to form, and at this point there's nothing to actually indicate that these people are eating flesh, especially not from the dumbest pizzagate collage I've seen yet (and that's saying something).
Same goes for the occult. That's at least more relevant but you need to understand that this is not "satanism," it's a disgusting subculture which has risen up around the deeply embedded practice of pedophilia within the highest ranks of government power. They probably do have some rituals and other assorted weird shit, and they most likely get off on this all being an "open secret" which is "hidden in plain view" through all of the code talk and hints, but "satanism" is NOT the cause of VIP pedophile rings. The bizarre occult themes of sex and violence involving children are an outgrowth of their habitual pedophilic activities which have been festering in Washington DC and elsewhere for decades and beyond.
Just like intelligence agencies seek to capture international black markets in narcotics trafficking (see Peter Dale Scott and Gary Webb, among others), they also seek to capture the multi-billion dollar global child trafficking industry as well as the international blackmailing market. As always the end game is power and the ability to beat out competing elites for maximum dominance.
These are clear, rational explanations which don't require someone to go full tinfoil hat. This is the case that needs to be presented to the public.
Agree that it all is important. But we need to be strategic about how we talk about it. Listen, this is on its way to the mainstream. Infowars/PrisonPlanet will do a segment on this soon. They're not super mainstream but like I said, it's on its way. My point is: the cannibalism and satanism aspects could be a millstone around its neck. Here's why: satanism is very weird but it is not illegal. Cannibalism is obviously super gross but it isn't illegal in the US (not really). They're shocking but they're misdirections. The pedo/cp stuff is much more valuable in terms of generating legal action against anyone AND it is also shocking. As this investigation becomes more widely known, there is an often-overlooked aspect of marketing this story to the general public. If you don't believe me, consider how John Oliver covered the Snowden revelations by talking about how the NSA would have access to your dick pics. Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras (who broke the Snowden revelations story) focused on the tech and obvious violations of rights but normies don't give a shit. But when you frame the issue in terms of something that is more easily accessible, people pay attention. We need to make this story as easy to digest as possible. People will spend time reading about a pedo investigation but when you add in the satanism/cannibalism, they'll throw their hands up and say "this is some crazy internet BS."
Who is this "we" you speak of? I am an individual.
And the idea that prosecuting or suing these people is going to go anywhere is laughable. Lawyers, judges, prosecutors, they are in it together. They're all the same group. You're expecting pedophile cannibal satanists to police themselves?
Look at this morose motherfucker. Red herring and then concern trolling. So your line of reasoning is this is very hard and there are many powerful obstacles in our way so let's all stop? Bullshit. What did you think would be the endgame of the PizzaGate investigation? We all give each other high fives? Plus, all we have is circumstantial evidence. We need to focus on getting real proof and then we can start to worry about what to do with it.
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RageGoddess ago
Okay, stop with this cannibalism BS. And also, stop with the satanism. We have solid leads and circumstantial evidence on the pedo front. These two aspects of the investigation are red herrings. Even if they are true, it is a misuse of resources to dig into it. Yeah it grabs headlines but it sends this whole story into another realm of conspiracies that normies will quickly excuse as "tin foil hat" BS. Stay focused on the leads that actually have some legs.
unconceivable ago
I agree 100% with you. This should be said anytime a post like this(and it seems like 90% of all posts now) somehow make it past the hard working mods. These disinformation freaks need to be called out. Any leads that don't stem from the polestar emails or demonstratedly proven to be worthy leads related to them are not pizzagate, and should be posted somewhere else(like v/Pedogate or something), or deleted. It seems like these disinfo pedos are hard at work on voat. Evil ultimately fails by its own design, so I'm not discouraged. Still, the research stems from polester emails and all evidence not tied to that and fantasy Reddit cannibal posts definitely do not belong here.
chickyrogue ago
its part of their convoluted belief system like a religious experience for them to gain power and spiritual advancement so it is an important aspect and should be considered not RED HERRINGS its very real to these people practising these darker arts
chickyrogue ago
its all related tho because they are using the children for spiritual gains favors and powers [not sayin it works but to them its their religion]
redditsuckz ago
But if this was goin on at one of the 5 points in washington DC wouldnt you want to know?
https://i.sli.mg/0aClJJ.jpg
This behavior would most likely be going on at all those 5 points + center point and ONE POINT IS THE WHITE HOUSE.
mickrussom ago
These people are just disgusting. Of course put the effort into the pedo stuff but have a sub-folder - other sick stuff we think that makes these people even more despicable than the scope of the pedo investigation is showing.
l23r ago
Also, does it really matter if they worship the devil? There's lots of Muslim and Jewish and Christian pedos as well. The only reason why someone would bring up the fact that they are Satanic worshipers is because it's shocking to some people and is good clickbait.
whichguy ago
Satanism is a cult, and the people who are satanists answer to higher ups and act on behalf of the higher up's direction.
RageGoddess ago
Yes yes yes yes. Very good point. Satanism is not illegal. Actually, just googled it, and turns out cannibalism is not illegal either. The satanism/cannibalism part will send this into the clickbait realm very fast instead of legitimizing it. Edit: added in more info about legality of satanism/cannibalism
mishka ago
No, it is. Mutilating a corpse is illegal in some places. It might also be regulated by the FDA if done commercially.
pizzagateinvestigate ago
Agreed 100%. The fact that this crap keeps getting posted by the same accounts in other threads where it's completely out of context should make everyone suspicious that this yet another attempt to discredit pizzagate and make everyone look like idiots.
If you have any actual evidence of cannibalism then by all means, but with Spezgate going down and all the incoming attention on pizzagate this looks to me like a desperate effort to shitpost in order to scare away anyone who might have otherwise had an open mind.
I've been following pizzagate since day one and before pizzagate went down I was already well aware of the mountain of evidence regarding past VIP pedophile rings like the Franklin scandal, Dutroux affair, UK Parliament, Jimmy Savile, etc.
Pizzagate is new. Part of the process of investigating a conspiracy is making connections, even if a bit vague, and brainstorming until you can determine which connections are meaningless and which ones are significant. You're trying to get a bird's eye view and see if you can come up with a theory which actually makes sense and which can explain the evidence.
We aren't dealing with cannibals, we're dealing with pedophiles. There's an enormous historical precedent for VIP pedophile rings, and there's a clear explanation involving blackmail and the multi-billion dollar international child trafficking industry.
If pedophiles are out there who aren't a part of government then we should assume there's some incidence of those within government. Those who are in government expose themselves to possible blackmail, and evidence of child sex abuse means they can be completely owned for life.
The person or group, possibly as part of a blackmailing ring, who has the most damning evidence on the most influential people will emerge as the most powerful. Naturally they will use that power to begin promoting those with a proclivity for pedophilia. As the Franklin case clearly shows, elite parties happen where children are provided and influential people end up getting videotaped with hidden cameras. Just think about the level of power that gives the blackmailing ring. The blackmailees cannot say anything about it, so it creates a strong veil of secrecy whereby only those "in the know" can talk about it to one another.
Once they know they are owned they indulge themselves continually, and the veil of secrecy and control, which extends across the three branches of government, media, big business which is connected to government, and any possible investigative bodies, render victims and those of us who understand what's happening powerless to prevent them from scuttling investigations and ordering endless media hatchet jobs on anyone trying to expose them.
As for this post, I've never heard of any VIP cannibal rings. There is no historical precedent for this. Huffman being a cannibal for no reason and then posting about it on Reddit makes no sense. There's nothing here at all that suggests he's a cannibal or a pedophile for that matter. Trying sticking with the people we have actual evidence on rather than giving the Fake News Lamestream Media the "witch hunt" it wants so badly.
For the sake of argument however, since we're forced to speculate about what happens at these parties, let's say there are instances of ritualistic murder combined with some minimal cannibalism. If it happens it's purely ritualistic and an outcome of the widespread pedophilia, it's not a motivating factor in VIP pedophile rings which causes them to form, and at this point there's nothing to actually indicate that these people are eating flesh, especially not from the dumbest pizzagate collage I've seen yet (and that's saying something).
Same goes for the occult. That's at least more relevant but you need to understand that this is not "satanism," it's a disgusting subculture which has risen up around the deeply embedded practice of pedophilia within the highest ranks of government power. They probably do have some rituals and other assorted weird shit, and they most likely get off on this all being an "open secret" which is "hidden in plain view" through all of the code talk and hints, but "satanism" is NOT the cause of VIP pedophile rings. The bizarre occult themes of sex and violence involving children are an outgrowth of their habitual pedophilic activities which have been festering in Washington DC and elsewhere for decades and beyond.
Just like intelligence agencies seek to capture international black markets in narcotics trafficking (see Peter Dale Scott and Gary Webb, among others), they also seek to capture the multi-billion dollar global child trafficking industry as well as the international blackmailing market. As always the end game is power and the ability to beat out competing elites for maximum dominance.
These are clear, rational explanations which don't require someone to go full tinfoil hat. This is the case that needs to be presented to the public.
zagreos ago
This is why moderatorship is so important. A responsible moderator would delete crap threads like this and keep only the threads that are good.
party1981 ago
I don't want to believe that it involves cannibalism. But:
Sleuth222 ago
I'm sick of hearing this rhetoric. It's all important. And "normies" don't believe any of it anyways.
RageGoddess ago
Agree that it all is important. But we need to be strategic about how we talk about it. Listen, this is on its way to the mainstream. Infowars/PrisonPlanet will do a segment on this soon. They're not super mainstream but like I said, it's on its way. My point is: the cannibalism and satanism aspects could be a millstone around its neck. Here's why: satanism is very weird but it is not illegal. Cannibalism is obviously super gross but it isn't illegal in the US (not really). They're shocking but they're misdirections. The pedo/cp stuff is much more valuable in terms of generating legal action against anyone AND it is also shocking. As this investigation becomes more widely known, there is an often-overlooked aspect of marketing this story to the general public. If you don't believe me, consider how John Oliver covered the Snowden revelations by talking about how the NSA would have access to your dick pics. Glenn Greenwald and Laura Poitras (who broke the Snowden revelations story) focused on the tech and obvious violations of rights but normies don't give a shit. But when you frame the issue in terms of something that is more easily accessible, people pay attention. We need to make this story as easy to digest as possible. People will spend time reading about a pedo investigation but when you add in the satanism/cannibalism, they'll throw their hands up and say "this is some crazy internet BS."
Sleuth222 ago
Who is this "we" you speak of? I am an individual.
And the idea that prosecuting or suing these people is going to go anywhere is laughable. Lawyers, judges, prosecutors, they are in it together. They're all the same group. You're expecting pedophile cannibal satanists to police themselves?
RageGoddess ago
Look at this morose motherfucker. Red herring and then concern trolling. So your line of reasoning is this is very hard and there are many powerful obstacles in our way so let's all stop? Bullshit. What did you think would be the endgame of the PizzaGate investigation? We all give each other high fives? Plus, all we have is circumstantial evidence. We need to focus on getting real proof and then we can start to worry about what to do with it.
Sleuth222 ago
We, we, we.
Well, what will you do with the hard evidence once you's find it? Give it to the FBI? I repeat; Laughable.