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comeonpeople ago

A. Laura Silsby Since being arrested in Haiti for trying to steal 33 children and getting let off the hook with the help of the Clinton’s,

You say Clintons, what did Hillary do for Silsby to "get her off the hook"? For that matter what exactly did Bill do?

Why would they let a woman convicted of trafficking children anywhere near systems that dealt with Amber Alerts?

She wasn't convicted of trafficking children.

But none of these circumstantial bits of evidence are as important as the discovery that Correct the Record paid Jeff Koons $50,000 according to their SEC filing, seen here on page 9:

This is a receipt FROM Koons, i.e. a contribution from Koons to CTR, not a payment TO Koons.

Correct the Record is run by David Brock, who is in a relationship with James Alefantis.

WAS in a relationship with Alefantis.

It turns out that Jeff Koons is more to Alefantis than an artist he admires.

You haven't really established this. Koons donated $50k to Correct the Record in 2016, Alefantis used to go out with Brock who runs CTR.

And just for the record, Koons isn't just some guy in the East Coast art scene. His pieces sell for tens of millions of dollars, in fact he has the all-time record for highest sale price of a work by a living artist ($58 million).

People might want to tighten up their statements and try to remove bias if you want to be taken seriously.

Didot ago

You say Clintons, what did Hillary do for Silsby to "get her off the hook"? For that matter what exactly did Bill do?

There's an email history on WikiLeaks of Silsby's organization contacting Clinton's team, her staff then discussing how the media is reporting the news, and Aberdin forwarding details to Hillary.

The Americans were attempting to smuggle a planned 100 children to a hotel in the Dominican Republic until an orphanage was constructed nearby. Authorities found no paperwork for the orphanage or of their organization.

Shortly after almost the entire group were released, despite the Haitian court finding evidence of association with traffickers, the fact that none of the children were orphans, and without resolving the true intentions and destinations of the children, all without consequence due to the intervention of Bill Clinton.

The only member charged was Laura Silsby whose sentence was reduced to 3 months for 'organizing illegal travel'. She had previously attempted to smuggle a different group of children and her initial legal adviser in Haiti was himself arrested on child kidnapping charges.

comeonpeople ago

There's an email history on WikiLeaks of Silsby's organization contacting Clinton's team, her staff then discussing how the media is reporting the news, and Aberdin forwarding details to Hillary.

Those emails show zero suspicious "connection" between Hillary and Laura. Of course the Secretary of State's staff at the Department of State forwarded her a couple emails about American citizens being held for crimes in another country. The only other emails were generic spam press releases forwarded to Hillary.

This is what I'm talking about, when you guys talk about Hillary and Silsby being "connected", once someone looks up those actual emails they will immediately dismiss anything you have to say because of your extreme distortion of the facts.

all without consequence due to the intervention of Bill Clinton.

We don't know what Bill did or how much what he did affected matters.

Laura Silsby whose sentence was reduced to 3 months for 'organizing illegal travel'.

Yes, as I said, she was not convicted of trafficking.

Didot ago

Those emails show zero suspicious "connection" between Hillary and Laura.

I was establishing the history of the event. You asked about Bill Clinton's involvement and I gave you an answer, proving some context. I'm not "you guys." I knew more about the case and was proving some details.

The intentions of Silsby and the entire group were never properly resolved in the case. They had obtained the children on verbal promises to the parents of a 'better life' yet none of the group's facts checked out regarding both their organization nor the claimed orphanage, and were trying to leave the country with no authorization, something Silsby had attempted to do so previously.

Important issues regarding child trafficking were reported by Unicef at the time following the earthquake. By their statistics at least 2,000 children were trafficked from Haiti to the Dominican Republic in 2009 alone. Haiti was experiencing a crisis with this at a time of immense vulnerability and trafficking networks were exploiting it. And in the middle there is the case of Silsby and her group who were trying to take a total of 100 children away to the Dominican Republic, under a fake organization that the US could find no filings for to a non-existent orphanage, for unclear purposes that were never properly established during their Haiti case and whose original American-Dominican legal adviser was arrested during this time for being part of a Haitian child trafficking network himself.

The Clintons become involved with the case around this time and the charges against the rest of the group were dropped due to the group's claim of being 'unaware' of Silsby's true intentions, making Silsby out to be the brainchild of the operation. Silsby ultimately received a mere 3 months sentence for 'organizing illegal travel' only due to the defense successfully arguing the case that parents having voluntarily given their children to them was enough—and only because of this single reason. She faced up to 15 years in prison. The trafficking aspect was never addressed.

If that sounds wholly fine to you, great.

comeonpeople ago

Thank you for the details.

If that sounds wholly fine to you, great.

It sounds like Silsby may have been up to something, but the court apparently ultimately decided that the parents had in fact given her the kids and thus they at least concluded it was not as nefarious as many here insist. In any case, Silsby being up to something does not in any way, shape, or form implicate the Clintons or Koons or Alefantis or Brock or any of the children's orgs mentioned in OP.

THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES ago

Yes. It does implicate the Clintons, because she emailed the Clinton Foundation in order to receive help in her court case. Seeing all of the other evidence which we have found, they were the likely recipients of the children. But that's all heresay. If you don't believe any of it, why are you here? Don't waste your time with a bunch of crazy people. Amirite? XP. Found the shill.

comeonpeople ago

Show me an email communication between Silsby and the Clinton Foundation.

Seeing all of the other evidence which we have found, they were the likely recipients of the children.

lol, yeah, you have lots of "evidence" for that. By which I mean "zero".

why are you here?

I think it's important that people as crazy/stupid/malicious as nearly all of you seem to be get called out on their bullshit.

DentHouper ago

I think it's important that people as crazy/stupid/malicious as nearly all of you seem to be get called out on their bullshit.

I don't agree with your characterization of "nearly all of you". But I welcome your criticism. People should be challenged to establish their claims and source them with facts.