This is a brilliant idea, I'd like to work together with you on this.
I know /v/EmergencyNation is trying to do something similar to this. Overall there needs to be a lot more focus on self-sufficiency and community-building, since strong communities are what drive change.
My one personal disagreement is that I believe it's better for someone to be socially connected and powerful than 100% self-sufficient, if you have to choose between them. In other words it is better for someone to live in the suburbs and have a lot of friends who share their views and be influential, than live in the middle of nowhere and have no friends although they are 100% self-sufficient.
What is gone over has nothing to do with living in the middle of nowhere or having no friends, nor is being self sufficient at odds with being socially connected or powerful, nor is it either or.
You're right. I just see that suggestion made a lot - that moving out to extreme rural areas is necessarily better, when it really depends on a number of factors including age, family size, life plans, etc.
You mention in another post that you haven't written a book, but would you be against doing so? Or maybe just a short guide/pdf.
I've considered doing what people on 8chan have done where they collected references and upped an archive, probably a lot of the suggestions already there, periodically a thread is posted pointing out 2tb of material, though the DIY own RV bit like I've thought of I've never seen before, there's the RV crowd and the tiny home crowd, not run across what I've come up with or aim otherwise, and you pointing out /v/EmergencyNation is the first I've heard of it.
I've considered doing what people on 8chan have done where they collected references and upped an archive, probably a lot of the suggestions already there, periodically a thread is posted pointing out 2tb of material
I would definitely be in favor of something like this. However some of the common problems with that approach is
1) those archives get lost or forgotten shortly after being created, rather than continuing to be spread and distributed
2) The 2TB size is telling, since most of those archives tend to be made by information packrats with no discrimination between useful and useless information. I've downloaded some before and they're full of redundancies, unsourced infographics, and extremely dated scans of pdfs that are no longer relevant. Also their massive filesize makes it annoying to download them.
What's needed is an archive or text put together by people who know what they're talking about, and made as concise and as accessible as possible.
Do you mind if I repost some of what you've said to /v/EmergencyNation? The creator is a pretty cool guy.
Another thing we might want to do is bring together some of the more productive subverses, such as /v/JustGrowIt, into helping create this guide.
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voatusernamevoat ago
Stop contributing to the jewed system and build our own: https://voat.co/v/politics/3067293/17079151/ edit: BTW, this has been done before: https://files.catbox.moe/8sfo2r.png
Delacourt ago
This is a brilliant idea, I'd like to work together with you on this.
I know /v/EmergencyNation is trying to do something similar to this. Overall there needs to be a lot more focus on self-sufficiency and community-building, since strong communities are what drive change.
My one personal disagreement is that I believe it's better for someone to be socially connected and powerful than 100% self-sufficient, if you have to choose between them. In other words it is better for someone to live in the suburbs and have a lot of friends who share their views and be influential, than live in the middle of nowhere and have no friends although they are 100% self-sufficient.
voatusernamevoat ago
What is gone over has nothing to do with living in the middle of nowhere or having no friends, nor is being self sufficient at odds with being socially connected or powerful, nor is it either or.
Delacourt ago
You're right. I just see that suggestion made a lot - that moving out to extreme rural areas is necessarily better, when it really depends on a number of factors including age, family size, life plans, etc.
You mention in another post that you haven't written a book, but would you be against doing so? Or maybe just a short guide/pdf.
Also, have you heard of /v/EmergencyNation or the mod who runs it?
voatusernamevoat ago
I've considered doing what people on 8chan have done where they collected references and upped an archive, probably a lot of the suggestions already there, periodically a thread is posted pointing out 2tb of material, though the DIY own RV bit like I've thought of I've never seen before, there's the RV crowd and the tiny home crowd, not run across what I've come up with or aim otherwise, and you pointing out /v/EmergencyNation is the first I've heard of it.
Delacourt ago
I would definitely be in favor of something like this. However some of the common problems with that approach is
1) those archives get lost or forgotten shortly after being created, rather than continuing to be spread and distributed
2) The 2TB size is telling, since most of those archives tend to be made by information packrats with no discrimination between useful and useless information. I've downloaded some before and they're full of redundancies, unsourced infographics, and extremely dated scans of pdfs that are no longer relevant. Also their massive filesize makes it annoying to download them.
What's needed is an archive or text put together by people who know what they're talking about, and made as concise and as accessible as possible.
Do you mind if I repost some of what you've said to /v/EmergencyNation? The creator is a pretty cool guy.
Another thing we might want to do is bring together some of the more productive subverses, such as /v/JustGrowIt, into helping create this guide.
voatusernamevoat ago
I don't mind, no, it's what I do, posting it regularly.