zipcodemonster ago

I think I saw some huffington post article that said that there's one weird electoral college rule that doctors HATE that says that if Trump gets impeached Bernie Sanders gets elected? Something like that?

Gamio ago

Oh they'll just call for Pence impeachment than whoever is next until there is no one left but the approved few. It would be like Stalins show trials or the Chinese "counterrevolutionaries" show trials.

Fuck if Trump was murdered they'd have a post-mortem trial in order to publicly "correct" Trumps wrongthink.

foltaisaprovenshill ago

Yeah they all seem to think that the succession line includes Hitlery after Trump.

Nope.

shitstartercarter ago

No he wasn't, the guy was born in Colorado and he died in London last October. Seth Rich contacted wikileaks through Gavin Macfayden.

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

The Dem sheep aren't making the connection that Pence is much worse for them, but this whole thing is being pushed by corporate deep state media and their lackeys.

AndinBriwel ago

...specially with the following revelations: President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn,...

Actually, no, this is not the "revelation." The actual revelation, from a legal perspective, is: "The New York Times claims to have somehow obtained a copy of a note, wherein former FBI Director James Comey wrote down in a memo to himself that President Trump stated to him that he hoped Comey would be able to let the Flynn investigation go."

  1. The 'memo' isn't even confirmed to have come from Comey. So far, it's just a claim by a NYT reporter with no corroboration or proof. In the real world, we call that a, "rumor." I'm not saying it isn't real - but I am saying no one on Earth besides Comey knows for certain if it's real, including the reporter, because if it came from Comey, it could be fabricated after the fact anyway, without corroboration. Again - could be real, but not you, not I, and not even the reporter can know for sure whether it is.

  2. It's essentially a reporter claiming that Comey claimed that Trump said something. In a court room, we call that, "heresay." If the memo is real, and did come from Comey, and is what Comey claims it to be, it is essentially a diary entry by Comey claiming that Trump said something - not a recording of Trump or a memo from Trump. Just a, "note to self."

  3. What Trump is accused to have said (ever play telephone?) is, "I hope you can let this go."

So, IF, and I stress "IF," the quote is word-for-word accurate, and IF there is no other context to the quote, such as what he said prior or what he followed up with (convenient that the rest of the 'memo' is not 'released') - assuming everything claimed is 100% true and accurate - that President Trump said to James Comey, regarding the investigation into Flynn, "I hope you can let this go," that still could mean a number of things. Unless there is some context that supports it to be a pressuring to drop an investigation, it's not the same as saying, "drop the case and let it go, regardless of what evidence you have." One would have to ask, if the context of the quote is that, in fact, then why didn't the reporter release more of the 'memo' in order to support that context?

Hypothetically, this could be a line from one of two conversations:

===== scenario one ======

Comey: Flynn's in trouble. I can't talk about the details, but it doesn't look good for Flynn. Trump: So, you're saying he's committed a crime? Comey: I can't reveal details, but it's not looking good for him. Trump: Flynn is a good friend. I hope you can let this go. Comey: You mean, what, just drop the investigation? As if the evidence didn't exist? Trump: Is that what you did with HIllary? Listen; let it go.

ORRRR...

====== scenario 2 ======

Comey: I'm swamped with all this nonsense. Trump: What do you mean? Comey: All this pressure to investigate this Flynn, Russia-ties madness. It's eating up all my time and resources. Keeping me from other important matters. Trump: I hope you can let it go. Comey: What, just drop the investigation? **Trump: **No, of course not. If there's evidence of a crime, you'll need to follow that and pursue it, but I hope there is no criminal activity here so that you can let it go and get back to your job.

Edit: Formatting.

Edit: Of course, many more scenarios are possible, and the conversation, if it happened, was likely more complicated than either of those offered. However, the two hypothetical offered both include the alleged quote verbatim, yet have opposite connotation, and we can never know which is the reality without the rest of the conversation.

gurgenfurter ago

He wasn't heading an investigation.

Yes, idiot, he was.

Mr. Comey was fired because he was leading an active investigation that could bring down a president. Though compromised by his own poor judgment, Mr. Comey’s agency has been pursuing ties between the Russian government and Mr. Trump and his associates, with potentially ruinous consequences for the administration.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/09/opinion/donald-trumps-firing-of-james-comey.html?_r=0

If you are going to attack people for laughing at your stupid, neo-Nazi propaganda, then please at least stick to the topic.

shitstartercarter ago

You're a complete imbecile if you still believe the whole Russian connection bullshit. The media has been clamoring on about Russia this, and Russia that, but still have yet to put fourth one piece of conclusive evidence show so. It seems as though Seth Rich leaked the DNC emails, he was killed mysteriously. No Russians. Trump won the election,oh it must have been because of the Russians. Are you seriously that dumb? Can you really not put those pieces together? Stupid dead headed human garbage you must be.

aria_taint ago

Well, let the real fun begin.. When the special prosecutor finds that the Russian narrative is complete bullshit that was fabricated by the dems and completely clears Trump do you think the left will sit back and accept it? Not a fucking chance sweet heart. The will call the prosecutor a Russian collaborator and demand another investigation. I would hope Trump will go into full fuck them all mode and announce federal investigations into the Clinton's including there foundation, and Obama.

burns29 ago

I believe he has a thick skin despite what you hear from the MSM. As long as the Democrats are taking up air time going on about Russians, he is busy doing this without them interfering.

aria_taint ago

Absolutely! Good link too!

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

This would be great. Do remember though that outside of the real, and numerous, crimes committed by Obama(especially with Clinton by his side) there was a years long Obama Derangement Syndrome happening nation-wide on the right side of the isle. It happened.

I guess their plan is to give power to one crook after another and allow the other side to go stupid, and of course get nothing done. The Dems aren't accomplishing shit right now and the elites want that. The only other appealing thing besides Trump Derangement Syndrome is "sweep clean the slate of deep state fuckery", which they can't have.

The ole divide and conquer formula.

RoryBellowsLives ago

I can see the excuses now. "The prosecutor was a Bush stooge and Bush is a Republican!", "We need an impartial (read DNC hired) investigator"..."REEEEEEE"

aria_taint ago

Correct. I'm sure the "he was a bush era appointee" bullshit will start in short order and by short order cnn is already starting with this. Unless it's a dem Obama appointee who donated to the Clinton campaign and has attend a bilderburg meetings they will keep the Trump/Russia spy shit going. I'm thinking lemons into lemonade with this special prosecutor shit. Trump will be cleared and the dems once again look like crying faggots.

RoryBellowsLives ago

It's gonna keep going regardless. I keep hearing on here and other sites that the legacy media has no credibility and that it's dying a painful death...I just don't see that. So many people take WaPo and NYT as gospel and never think that they could be lying to them. In fact, they only believe the sites that could be lying to them are the ones that WaPo and NYT say are. There lack of critical thinking and level of trust is astonishing to me.

I can go to sites like Infowars and Breitbart and see through much of their BS, but so many people seem unable to give this same level of scrutiny to the MSM. Even my father, who has never voted for a Dem for Pres reads WaPo every day cover to cover (sans Style because that usually and I quote "has a lot of gay stuff"). He thinks I'm nuts when I tell him he's essentially paying for the privilege to read DNC propaganda every day.

Boyakasha ago

They would impeach him over the second scoop of ice cream if they could. Fucking idiots.

Subtenko ago

What needs to be drained first, the stupidity in the public or the media? Choices.....

rightbyroy ago

Media. It has a direct effect on the stupidity of the public.

BaldMiscreant ago

The media. The lemmings will follow suit.

Subtenko ago

Nah I dont think so, you still have people that dont think for themselves potentially....because if the media gets corrupt again then the people will just eat it up because they have learned nothing.

BaldMiscreant ago

What i mean is, they believe what the media feeds them. If you change what they're being fed, you change what they believe.

AncientPsychicWarCat ago

Well yeah. It's unfair to the rest of America. Why should he get 2 scoops of ice cream?

Boyakasha ago

Can we please get ice cream ruled as a human right? Where's Bernie??

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

He's not stupid like that, go after the real criminals.

un1ty ago

Mike Pence is a deep state stooge and they're trying to get him up on top. Perhaps this was the original idea from the start?

meltingpotofhambone ago

Complete crybabies. He was completely forgiving Hillary's email server and using "unintended" as free-reign to do anything criminal. Loretta lynch had a botched compromise meeting inside a plane to "special counsel" with the Clintons. He kept wasting resources on Trump/Russia instead of Obama's unfair election wiretapping. He is a compromised SHITTY investigator and got fired for it. End of story.

gurgenfurter ago

Complete crybabies. He was completely forgiving Hillary's email server

LMFAO. Forgiving? There was nothing on the server which incriminated her in the first place!! You have been crying wolf over her email server for the last six months!!

You are a nasty dishonest little hypocrite, pal.

foltaisaprovenshill ago

There was nothing on the server which incriminated her in the first place!!

Fuck off with your retard talking points, you ShareBlue turd.

Inspector General report proves you wrong, fucktard.

Crawdadie17 ago

Anything marked classified on the server is a charge pal sorry. I had a security clearance and when you get one your told all about email security and the penalties for not following protocol. So anything transferred to that server and or seen by anyone other than killary is a crime. And on top of that you sign a document when you get your clearance saying you understand you will be prosecuted for sharing classified info with anyone. So she needs to be prosecuted because I sure as shit would be as would anyone else I worked with.

Donky_punch ago

Idc if she sent a recipe for meatloaf. If it was a confidential document sent from an unsecured location with unsecured equipment, she should be prosecuted. You and i would be.

gurgenfurter ago

Idc if she sent a recipe for meatloaf. If it was a confidential document sent from an unsecured location with unsecured equipment, she should be prosecuted. You and i would be.

Then could you please explain why you want Hillary prosecuted for sending recipes for meatloaf, but you want anybody who investigates Donald Trump for treason fired? Your double standards are pretty fucking spectacular.

Donky_punch ago

I never said that. Your jumps to conclusions are pretty fucking spectacular. If they want to investigate him for possible treasonous activity, that's a separate investigation. But sure, EVERYONE needs to be held to the same standard including President Trump. If investigating him for treason falls under that standard, then do it

edistojim ago

Yeah, nothing the matter with government emails on a bathroom server at your house whatsoever, we don't even have to mention the top secret material in some of the 30k emails they uncovered………..all innocent because she wiped it with a cloth, Remember? And who's the hypocrite? Benghazi ring a bell? How about the Clinton Foundation?

gurgenfurter ago

Yeah, nothing the matter with government emails on a bathroom server at your house whatsoever

If stupidity was a criminal offence then every American President since the end of the second world war would be in jail. Contradictorily, treason is a criminal offence. Hence, we have a situation where you are crying and screaming about the non-criminal offence, and doing your utmost to downplay the real criminal offence.

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

Wiping clean a server that was already subpoenaed by Congress is very illegal and she should have to answer. Instead, shitface super-corrupt Comey gives the perp immunity. Why again did that handful of people get immunity?

edistojim ago

So now you get to decide whats criminal and whats not? You a prosecutor now? So I guess that means you decide whats treasonous and whats not? You spit or swallow?

gurgenfurter ago

So now you get to decide whats criminal and whats not? You a prosecutor now?

How can you actually even say that to me when I am writing in response to your false attempts to label Hillary a criminal? Are you completely fucking retarded? Gtfo and take your idiotic straw man arguments with you.

edistojim ago

I don't think anyones going to get indicted on your say so………….That sound reasonable? I think our court system should indict HilDog and a jury can decide. Hows that? Nothing to fear right? She's totally innocent of all charges………right?

gurgenfurter ago

I don't think anyones going to get indicted on your say so

I don't think you understand that telling me what my own argument is does not make it so.

That sound reasonable?

Of course not. How is it reasonable to pretend I said, "People are going to get indicted on my say so"? I didn't say that, or anything remotely like it, so you seem to be (deliberately) confusing deceit with reason.

I think our court system should indict HilDog and a jury can decide.

So Trump fires the guy who puts him under investigation for election fraud and treason and you want to indict Hillary, yes?

Cool beans, bruv. How much are you on an hour there?

edistojim ago

So you think any more investigations with a new regime where your dear Dumbo is not pulling strings is unwarranted huh ? Sounds progressive, kinda like a fucktard really. And Trump is under investigation for treason? What treasonous act do you think he committed? And election fraud? How so? Democrat primary is election fraud not some pie in the sky scheme about "muh Russians" followed by no proof whatsoever………make sense? Probably not.

burns29 ago

Comey admitted that Hillary was in possession of classified material on a personal server which is illegal. His excuse that there was no illegal intent is not an excuse. He was covering for Loretta Lynch who we all know made a deal with Bill to not indict Hillary. The Democrats are so dirty it is sickening and what happened in the IRS, FBI and DOJ removes any confidence that they will act impartially towards a Non-Democrat. Remember, at the end of the day, the so called Russian interference was that they exposed the TRUTH about what Hillary and the DNC were doing.

BaldMiscreant ago

You're dodging the important question here. Spit, or swallow?

edistojim ago

"Comey serves at the pleasure of the President of the United States." End of story, now watch liberal heads explode.

Just the latest reason, watch for more fucked up reasons to come. After all, liberalism is a mental illness.

gurgenfurter ago

"Comey serves at the pleasure of the President of the United States." End of story

No. When the President of the United States commits treason in order to obtain that position and then fires the person tasked with investigating him it is more the beginning of the story than the end.

I find it abhorently strange that you are here promoting treason. I don't think any American citizen would do that so I am more inclined to believe most of the accounts in this stupid thread belong to Israelis.

ThisWeirdWeirdWorld ago

I find it abhorently strange that you are here promoting treason.

I find it abhorrent that not only do you not know how to spell "abhorrently" you don't know what "treason" is

HungryCrow ago

Evidence?

Why are you so certain when you haven't seen one shred of evidence?

Could it be you're not impartial?

AndinBriwel ago

Promoting treason.. that's a stretch!! Treason is a crime. Crimes need evidence, not heresay, and not rumors - evidence.

Learn some elementary school level U.S. civics. The U.S. government has three branches. Only three. Not two, not five, not twelve - just three: The DoJ and FBI are not branches of our government. The U.S. federal government includes the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches. All departments, bureaus, organizations, etc, operate under one of these three. The FBI operates under the Department of Justice. The Department of Justice operates under the Executive branch. The Executive branch is headed by the elected president. The president gets to choose who does and does not work within the executive branch, and the Senate - part of the Legislative branch - has to confirm the appointments made by the president. This is part of the checks and balances our constitutional system has in place.

The FBI director works, by definition, "at the pleasure of the president." That was true when President Clinton fired FBI Director, William Sessions, and it's still true today.

The Legislative branch - congress - also has investigative powers, and can assign a congressional special investigator if they believe a law has been broken. If that special investigator turns up evidence of a crime, a recommendation will be passed on to Congress, who has the power to then mete out penalty, up to impeachment, and can move the matter to the Judicial.

Of course, I realize that none of these constitutional procedural facts will alter your course of believing a frenzied mob with torches shouting, "TREASON," using no constitutional due process equals justice.

AncientPsychicWarCat ago

What treason has President Trump committed?

AssFaceSandwich2 ago

Nothing, he's a shill.

Well, the voter purge list(Crosscheck) was a huge offense but because the toothless Neoliberal shitstains don't want any inspection of voting irregularities, as it may tighten things for their future crimes, it went completely under the radar.

Laurentius_the_pyro ago

2 scoops of icecream, or as CNN would put it "being literally Hitler".

edistojim ago

Go suck some more liberal cock on Reddit, you'll be much happier.

FuckYouReddit- ago

"He did something completely within the purview of the presidency."

"Let's impeach him for it."

Me

gurgenfurter ago

"He did something completely within the purview of the presidency."

"Let's impeach him for it."

Firing the head of an investigation into your own treason and/or ties with Russia is "completely within the purview of the presidency", is it? LOL.

Do you actually work for Donald Trump? Or are you really that thick? Trump had nothing but praise for Comey right up until the point he opened a full-scale FBI investigation against him.

FuckYouReddit- ago

Do you actually work for Donald Trump?

Shut the fuck up with childish argument.

News flash: If you serve at the pleasure of the president, that means he can fire you whenever you want. Please, tell me what law he broke by firing Comey? Or would you just prefer he be impeached for #Reasons?

foltaisaprovenshill ago

No such investigation exists. Fuck off ShareBlue retard.

Son_Of_Hate ago

5 month old account with no posting history prior to today.

Yeah, you're not a shill. Just an honest person like the rest of us.

gurgenfurter ago

5 month old account with no posting history prior to today.

And? How is your radical change of subject in any way relevant to Trump firing the guy who has just put him under internal investigation for treason? My account is 5 months old "with no posting history prior to today", therefore this event didn't happen? Is that what your shill textbook is telling you is the best thing to say? Lol.

Your attack tactics are stupid and serve only to expose you as exactly what you accuse me of. You are a paid shill. This is made abundantly clear by your unwillingness to stick to the subject under discussion and instead make personal attacks against dissenters to your stupid propaganda.

Your account is 1.8 years old and yet your SCP is only 510. Therefore this proves you are a silly corporate faggot, now gtfo cunt.

an honest person like the rest of us.

The "rest of us" being the half dozen sock accounts you are using to promote this thread, yes?

Die cunt.

foltaisaprovenshill ago

Fuck off back to Reddit, shill fucktard. Your bullshit won't fly here. You people are fucking cancer. Go kill yourself please.

AncientPsychicWarCat ago

You're a special kinda stupid, aren't ya.

gurgenfurter ago

You're a special kinda stupid, aren't ya.

Nah. I've just reported you for using sock accounts to make swarm attacks against me.

foltaisaprovenshill ago

Haha you dumb little bitch, your SJW mods hold no power here. You can get fucked.

Your account is now in lockdown and you won't be able to downvote anyone, you stupid cunt shill. Have fun with your locked account :D

You little shills can go right back to fucking Plebbit, turd. Your bullshit doesn't work here. Your account is worthless for shilling now, cuck.

lord_nougat ago

Ooh! I don't want to get left out! Report me too!

Laurentius_the_pyro ago

Says the 5 month old account with negative CCP.

AncientPsychicWarCat ago

Lol bitch please. This isn't a "sock" account.

watitdew ago

ooh ooh, report mine too, faggot.

pushthis ago

Nah