Alot of new words im learning today. If that is what thats called, then that is what scripture teaches.
Christ says He stands at the door and knocks. Scripture says the Father draws us to His son.
Is it that outrages to believe since Christ is not "literally" knocking at out heart, and the Father is not "literally" tying a rope around us and dragging us to His Son, that their spirit is the one doing this work?
Does not sound nor feel like error to me.
Appreciate the relative politeness you have shown here though. Much nicer then the other guy was. Regardless if we disagree or not.
Not sure how much clearer i can state my position.
The Father, the one true God (per Jesus own words in John 17:3) is His own being.
The Son, who came forth from the Father, is also His own separate being.
The Fathers spirit, which He gave to His son, is simply that. Their spirit.
There is no trinity of gods. There is no role playing going on with the Godhead.
There is the Father who is Christs literal Father.
And Jesus the literal Son of the Father.
The video promotes nothing but an understanding of the truth. An understanding of why the trinity doctrine has infected the world and who is behind it.
If you believe the spirit is simply the spirit of the Father and Son, then you do well.
As that is the truth.
There is only 1 true God. The Father.
And His Son. Who has everything the Father has (his power, wisdom, nature) except one thing. He does not have authority over the Father. But the Father does have authority over the Son.
If the holy spirit is a different entity then the Father or Son, then on earth, Christs father was not the Father. But the holy spirit.
Luke 1:35 - And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
This unnamed 3rd god was the father of Jesus then.
Unnamed btw, because we know the Fathers name(s). Jehovah.
And we know the Sons name(s). Jesus/Yahshua
But this mystery 3rd god, he has no name.
Reason he has no name, is because he does not exist. It is simply the spirit the Father gave to the Son. Who He in turn, gives it to us.
The holy spirit we receive is Jesus himself.
2nd Corinthians 3:17 - Now the Lord is that Spirit
The apostles taught God the Father had a Son. (a literal actual Son)
The apostles taught the spirit of Jesus would fill them and give them new life.
The did not teach the Father and Son were role playing. They did not teach Jesus has existed just as long as the Father has. They did not teach there is a mysterious 3rd god who takes up the slack for the 2 while they are in heaven.
They taught none of those things. But they warned they were coming.
2nd Corinthians 11:4 - For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Another Jesus. A Jesus that is co-eternal with the Father that the apostles did not teach. A Jesus that had no beginning. A Jesus that is not literally the Fathers Son.
Another Spirit. Not the spirit of Jesus Himself, but a mysterious 3rd being who claims to be God. Not the omnipresence of the Son of God in our lives, but another entity all together.
The early church (apostles) warned against the trinity. They warned it was coming. And they warned many would be deceived.
It came. And to this day, it is infecting Christendom.
Again, hundreds of thousands of Christians have been killed defending this truth. Giving their very lives for this truth. Entire nations were wiped from this planet for this truth.
@JoeMcCarthy doesn't scapegoat the jews. He puts them in their proper place. The kikes are neither gods, nor devils. Not rats, nor blessed survivors. Jews are their own distinct people, and Joe simply says "Not mine."
They are just people, unfortunately they follow a culture and moral code imbued in the hatred of Christianity. Their unethical, nepotic and genocidal ways are codified in the Talmud. As their enemy, I must protect myself.
I agree. I don't dwell on them. I have my on goals, and if they're in my way, I strategize to outflank them. A jew isn't hard to defeat, just tell the truth and demand the truth.
Attention is worship. Worship not your enemy nor their evil.
Credit scores are about payment history, credit utilization (Max/used), and your income/cashflow. No one lends to a flake, someone up to their eyes in debt already, or someone who doesn't have the means to pay them back. Two ways to get around this: Don't borrow money or Borrow money to buy income producing assets.
Public schools have not been your friend since at least 1965. If you love them, you would send them to private school or homeschool them.
Whites have been outnumbered 3:1 before. Remember Rhodesia.
I guess I suck because I still pay taxes because I need to work a job to survive, have to loan money to get a house, can't afford private school. Damn, wish I was born with money. Just means I suck I guess.
And fuck my relatives for not knowing the future and arming themselves against the red army when it marched in. At least they could have died like everyone else who resisted them. Could have shot some illiterate russian conscript farmboys and then eventually been overrun by them, totally worth it. Instead they were being civilians who thought the conqueror would just pillage and rape and leave them alone, rather than being powerful satanic force hellbent on a 2,000 year old grudge against white Christians. Fuck them, they suck I guess.
Or you know, maybe. MAYBE.
Just going on a complete limb here: What if not just the top 0.001% of people who are the most successful and lucky should be able to "outflank" the Jews, but you know, everyone?
I know you can't empathize, because you have "fuck you" money and you send all your dozens of white children to private school, but I'm kinda in the middle area, and I see the struggling people, people who are easily fooled, whose lives have been ruined because the whole system is set up to catch the ones that make a single misstep.
It's always been and always will be about parting your money from you. While you beggers go back to horse and buggy, Al gore just made billions off of the STUPIDS who support this climate hoax bullshit!!
The roman catholic church adopted the pagan trinity, mary as a co-redeemer, sunday worship, easter/christmas celebration, infant baptism and 100 other heresies long before vatican 2.
Long before.
She has been in apostasy from her onset. And no, Peter was not the 1st pope. Regardless of the lies the vatican tells.
MacAthur teaches the omega of heresies. That Christ is not actually the literal Fathers Son, but has always existed and they are simply roleplaying. Aka "lying".
That is antichrist.
He also teaches the immortality of the soul. When a person dies they immediately go to heaven. Instead of into a dreamless, thoughtless state until the resurrection that the scriptures speak of.
Another dangerous heresy that leads to terribly misguided doctrines and beliefs.
And he teaches a 7 year tribulation, and a secret rapture and who knows what other jesuit inspired nonsense.
Blah blah blah. Just the hollow words of Satan. Proclaiming truth with no substance. Demanding fealty through shame.
Be gone, devil. No one is buying your bullshit here. You will always be easy to spot as the one that uses feelings and emotions to blind, with not even a hint of a desire at illumination. You will always be easy to spot by your hubris.
PsychoticBreak ago
Okay, goblins and Democrats then.
70times7 ago
Well, you were being polite.
Be mindful of the spirit you let speak.
70times7 ago
Alot of new words im learning today. If that is what thats called, then that is what scripture teaches.
Christ says He stands at the door and knocks. Scripture says the Father draws us to His son.
Is it that outrages to believe since Christ is not "literally" knocking at out heart, and the Father is not "literally" tying a rope around us and dragging us to His Son, that their spirit is the one doing this work?
Does not sound nor feel like error to me.
Appreciate the relative politeness you have shown here though. Much nicer then the other guy was. Regardless if we disagree or not.
70times7 ago
Not sure how much clearer i can state my position.
The Father, the one true God (per Jesus own words in John 17:3) is His own being.
The Son, who came forth from the Father, is also His own separate being.
The Fathers spirit, which He gave to His son, is simply that. Their spirit.
There is no trinity of gods. There is no role playing going on with the Godhead.
There is the Father who is Christs literal Father.
And Jesus the literal Son of the Father.
The video promotes nothing but an understanding of the truth. An understanding of why the trinity doctrine has infected the world and who is behind it.
70times7 ago
When you have some extra time, put that video on and give it a chance.
70times7 ago
If you believe the spirit is simply the spirit of the Father and Son, then you do well.
As that is the truth.
There is only 1 true God. The Father.
And His Son. Who has everything the Father has (his power, wisdom, nature) except one thing. He does not have authority over the Father. But the Father does have authority over the Son.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuDmOxhatc
70times7 ago
This topic reminds me of this video. You should give it a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzuDmOxhatc
Interesting when you connect "who" in heaven wanted to be like the Most High, but could not be.
70times7 ago
If the holy spirit is a different entity then the Father or Son, then on earth, Christs father was not the Father. But the holy spirit.
Luke 1:35 - And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
This unnamed 3rd god was the father of Jesus then.
Unnamed btw, because we know the Fathers name(s). Jehovah.
And we know the Sons name(s). Jesus/Yahshua
But this mystery 3rd god, he has no name.
Reason he has no name, is because he does not exist. It is simply the spirit the Father gave to the Son. Who He in turn, gives it to us.
The holy spirit we receive is Jesus himself.
2nd Corinthians 3:17 - Now the Lord is that Spirit
The Lord Jesus is the holy spirit.
70times7 ago
He is a begotten being.
The Father brought Him forth from Himself.
Lucifer, the angels, us, we are all created beings. Jesus was not created. He was begotten.
70times7 ago
The apostles taught no trinity.
The apostles taught God the Father had a Son. (a literal actual Son)
The apostles taught the spirit of Jesus would fill them and give them new life.
The did not teach the Father and Son were role playing. They did not teach Jesus has existed just as long as the Father has. They did not teach there is a mysterious 3rd god who takes up the slack for the 2 while they are in heaven.
They taught none of those things. But they warned they were coming.
2nd Corinthians 11:4 - For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Another Jesus. A Jesus that is co-eternal with the Father that the apostles did not teach. A Jesus that had no beginning. A Jesus that is not literally the Fathers Son.
Another Spirit. Not the spirit of Jesus Himself, but a mysterious 3rd being who claims to be God. Not the omnipresence of the Son of God in our lives, but another entity all together.
The early church (apostles) warned against the trinity. They warned it was coming. And they warned many would be deceived.
It came. And to this day, it is infecting Christendom.
Again, hundreds of thousands of Christians have been killed defending this truth. Giving their very lives for this truth. Entire nations were wiped from this planet for this truth.
They denied the trinity with their very blood.
70times7 ago
The early christian church also denied it.
Not until the trinity of babylon was adopted into catholicism did enter Christendom.
Hundreds of thousands of christians gave their lives defending God and His Son from the heresies of the roman church.
The Ostrogoths, Vandals and Herulis were utterly destroyed for not accepting the trinity.
We dishonor their memories by ignoring history and scripture. And we dishonor God by doing the same.
zxcvbnasdf ago
@70times7 is always finding new and interesting ways to be pathetic.
Itsdone63 ago
You have a talent
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Thanks! <3
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
@JoeMcCarthy doesn't scapegoat the jews. He puts them in their proper place. The kikes are neither gods, nor devils. Not rats, nor blessed survivors. Jews are their own distinct people, and Joe simply says "Not mine."
bdmthrfkr ago
A dangerous chemical is just a chemical.
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
Something to be cautious of while working with it, but otherwise not of concern.
bdmthrfkr ago
And yet some chemicals are so toxic that they must be eradicated for your own protection.
Deceneu ago
Removing from your vicinity, not eradicate. You cannot eradicate a chemical.
bdmthrfkr ago
Most chemicals can be neutralized by other chemicals; in this case I would prescribe zyklon -b.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
They are just people, unfortunately they follow a culture and moral code imbued in the hatred of Christianity. Their unethical, nepotic and genocidal ways are codified in the Talmud. As their enemy, I must protect myself.
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
I agree. I don't dwell on them. I have my on goals, and if they're in my way, I strategize to outflank them. A jew isn't hard to defeat, just tell the truth and demand the truth.
Attention is worship. Worship not your enemy nor their evil.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Cool but I don't know how you plan to outflank:
Taxes (paid straight to the coffers of central banks)
Credit scores
Having your kids taken away because the teacher convinced them they are transgender
White genocide
Jewish communists arresting your family members and shipping them off to gulags.
The list goes on.
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
There's two ways to outflank taxes: System Surfing or Invest in Real Estate like Trump
Credit scores are about payment history, credit utilization (Max/used), and your income/cashflow. No one lends to a flake, someone up to their eyes in debt already, or someone who doesn't have the means to pay them back. Two ways to get around this: Don't borrow money or Borrow money to buy income producing assets.
Public schools have not been your friend since at least 1965. If you love them, you would send them to private school or homeschool them.
Whites have been outnumbered 3:1 before. Remember Rhodesia.
Communists: Molon Labe.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
I guess I suck because I still pay taxes because I need to work a job to survive, have to loan money to get a house, can't afford private school. Damn, wish I was born with money. Just means I suck I guess.
And fuck my relatives for not knowing the future and arming themselves against the red army when it marched in. At least they could have died like everyone else who resisted them. Could have shot some illiterate russian conscript farmboys and then eventually been overrun by them, totally worth it. Instead they were being civilians who thought the conqueror would just pillage and rape and leave them alone, rather than being powerful satanic force hellbent on a 2,000 year old grudge against white Christians. Fuck them, they suck I guess.
Or you know, maybe. MAYBE.
Just going on a complete limb here: What if not just the top 0.001% of people who are the most successful and lucky should be able to "outflank" the Jews, but you know, everyone?
I know you can't empathize, because you have "fuck you" money and you send all your dozens of white children to private school, but I'm kinda in the middle area, and I see the struggling people, people who are easily fooled, whose lives have been ruined because the whole system is set up to catch the ones that make a single misstep.
And I kinda feel for them, you know?
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
I gave you two ways out, one from the bottom and one from the top. There's no way out from the middle.
ExpertShitposter ago
Dumb_Comment_Bot does it again.
Leveraction ago
It's always been and always will be about parting your money from you. While you beggers go back to horse and buggy, Al gore just made billions off of the STUPIDS who support this climate hoax bullshit!!
ARsandOutdoors ago
Who did this comic. It looks like the Voat ones
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Me and I did some of the voat comics is why lol.
ARsandOutdoors ago
HAHAHA
Man, I'd buy you a beer if I could. You are awesome!
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
<3
70times7 ago
Wait, youre a roman catholic?
That is literally satans church mate. You need to listen to Revelation 18:4
Alhambra ago
since Vatican II, yes, they have wholly surrendered to jews and joined their pedophile Moloch-worshiping cult. prior to that, no.
70times7 ago
The roman catholic church adopted the pagan trinity, mary as a co-redeemer, sunday worship, easter/christmas celebration, infant baptism and 100 other heresies long before vatican 2.
Long before.
She has been in apostasy from her onset. And no, Peter was not the 1st pope. Regardless of the lies the vatican tells.
zxcvbnasdf ago
So you deny the trinity? Or you think the catholics deny the trinity?
Either way you're a moron.
70times7 ago
Scripture denies the trinity. As do Jesus' own words.
John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
1 God. 1 Son. Their spirit, is the holy spirit. Not a 3rd entity.
To declare 3 gods is to declare Jesus a liar. As the roman church does.
zxcvbnasdf ago
The problem with quoting one verse without context is that it makes you look ignorant. I will give you the benefit of the doubt, and say drink from the cup of knowledge.
70times7 ago
What was shared was for the benefit of any who stumbled upon your unfounded satanic inspired attack.
You have made the choice of whom you serve and speak for.
If you think God will turn a blind eye to those who attack those speaking His truth, you are in grave error.
zxcvbnasdf ago
Yes. And people will see one verse quoted out of context, versus an hour long sermon discussing Jon 17:1-5, and they will see the Satan in you.
You are fooling no one, shill.
70times7 ago
Again you accuse me of bearing false witness.
Even worse, you ascribe the truth of scripture to a lie of satan.
If you believe God will turn a blind eye to your prideful blaspheme, you are gravely mistaken.
Hold your tongue. You are heaping coals on yourself.
zxcvbnasdf ago
Of course I am, you're a blatant shill.
Even worse, you accuse John MacArthur of being a tool of Satan.
Pathetic snake. Be gone, rabbi.
70times7 ago
MacAthur teaches the omega of heresies. That Christ is not actually the literal Fathers Son, but has always existed and they are simply roleplaying. Aka "lying".
That is antichrist.
He also teaches the immortality of the soul. When a person dies they immediately go to heaven. Instead of into a dreamless, thoughtless state until the resurrection that the scriptures speak of.
Another dangerous heresy that leads to terribly misguided doctrines and beliefs.
And he teaches a 7 year tribulation, and a secret rapture and who knows what other jesuit inspired nonsense.
https://www.gty.org/about#doctrines
His church is part of the group that scripture labels "the false prophet" and will be thrown into the lake of fire along with the beast (roman church)
If this is where your doctrine is coming from, it is little wonder why you speak satans words while attacking one giving truth.
You are in babylon. And worse then that, you are proud to be there.
Woe to you. Hold your tongue. You speak on behalf of your pride. Not on Christs.
zxcvbnasdf ago
Blah blah blah. Just the hollow words of Satan. Proclaiming truth with no substance. Demanding fealty through shame.
Be gone, devil. No one is buying your bullshit here. You will always be easy to spot as the one that uses feelings and emotions to blind, with not even a hint of a desire at illumination. You will always be easy to spot by your hubris.
I laugh in your face.
altident ago
Honestly you're both pretty retarded
zxcvbnasdf ago
Great argument kike.
70times7 ago
Will pray for you. And I forgive you for lying about me. Multiple times.
Sin is transgression of Gods law (1st John 3:4)
You need to repent.
zxcvbnasdf ago
Poor Satan. Can't do anything but quote things out of context to try to destroy.
Your lies are pathetic. Let me know where I can find your debate with John MacArthur. I'd love to see your attempt at imparting wisdom.
What's that? You never have because you have no arguments? I'm SHOCKED.
RebelJohnny ago
God you are such a crank.
70times7 ago
Dont whine. Just listen.
RebelJohnny ago
That would make my ears bleed.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
I appreciate that according to your opinion and faith you always attempt to save my soul. Speaks to integrity and virtue on your part.
But we will have to agree to disagree on the details.
70times7 ago
Well, who is the "her" in that verse?
70times7 ago
What is the "her" Jesus was speaking of in that verse if not the 'mother' church?
Solstiare ago
More or less, yes.
Goys-R-Us ago
What are you, anti-goblinetic?
Civil_Warrior ago
Goblinphobes!!
Solstiare ago
YES. And if you aren't, get out of our castle.
MrBateman ago
is this a voat original?
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Yee
Niggardly_Jew ago
Impressive length
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
That's what she said
grandmacaesar ago
Very nice...thanks!
bdmthrfkr ago
I hate that faggot.
Nigloo_Dismantler ago
He's a disingenuous moron who talks in word salads to try to appear smart.
Dumb_Comment_Bot ago
Summary post for those out of the loop: https://voat.co/v/whatever/3458412