I think it is about time to share the responsibilities, (there are none because we have no rules!), so that those interested can be more invested in this community. I'm not going to make any rules until the community decides on what they should be. I'd also prefer someone else do the 'enforcing'.
There has been a bit of discussion about protecting the site from shills, I think this is most important to the users (I could be wrong), and those who want to help moderate should offer solutions on this subject.
I'm in the EU, based on traffic, I'd say we first need some folks who are in the States.
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raka_defocus ago
You can't ban someone based on someone thinking they're a shill. The best way to defeat these people is by backing up your arguments with facts. If you can offer an intelligent argument for your case , they go away and the truth grows.
fenixrisin ago
I agree.
Others have pointed out that this gets old and goes no where since there not here for discourse but to create division.
There are many views on the topic and I'd like to see something implemented that works. That might also mean doing nothing.
Persona_Manager ago
Shills don't care about facts! Why is that so hard to understand? You can write a 200 page dissetation and they won't care about your facts, they'll ignore and continue trolling. They need to be banned outright. If you can't tell shill behavior then maybe you need to read a little more and get informed.
Bullshit. This has never been the case.
shill ago
So censorship is your answer. Who gets to decide what's censored? Do we really want this place to just be an echo chamber where any dissenter is silenced? That sounds like a shithole to me.
casualwhoaversereade ago
There's a difference between a "dissenter" and a professional troll. The shill's job is to spread disinformation, slide the forum, and create fights. Most normal people will just say: "Fine, we agree to disagree" and the argument ends. But, trolls/shills will keep pushing their agenda even after they've been asked to stop.
shill ago
When have you ever seen "Fine, we agree to disagree" on /r/conspiracy? It's literally a sub for controversial topics. Please show me one time that happened.
casualwhoaversereade ago
Maybe they didn't say those words but they stopped fighting. I've had arguments with people on /r/conspiracy and eventually told them "Believe whatever you want" and then stopped talking to them. They stopped talking to me. I added them to my RES ignore list and never dealt with them again. That's how most people deal with other people they don't like. A paid troll will keep coming back and picking the same fight over and over again with everyone (e.g.. Sandy Hook or 9/11 "debunkers" who won't accept any form of evidence as truth.)
shill ago
Fine, let's agree to disagree on this subject. I believe the voters should pick the content and the mods should keep their hands off conversations and "trolls" which on /r/conspiracy has just turned out to be anyone with a dissenting opinion. You believe the opposite. That's fine.