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TheKillerRabbit ago

We need to institute a system where the subscribers can elect/kick out mods through voting. Subs turn to shit when mods are allowed to go unchecked for their actions. Thank you Atko for showing us that you don't take kindly to mod abuse.

SpaceRosa ago

And how do you stop it turning into a popularity contest? Worse, how do you make sure the better mod comes out on top and not the mod who panders to whatever the circlejerk/popular attitudes are at the time? You'd never see a more liberal moderator voted in by people on this website, even if they were absolutely the most fit for the job. People are too quick to associate that with thier boogeyman SJWs.

TheKillerRabbit ago

In the long term, it is better to have a democracy than an authoritarian regime simply due to the fact that you can vote the shitty people out. I'm not saying we let everyone vote. Just people who have garnered a certain amount of CCP, who therefore have some credibility in that sub. The fact that transparent modlogs exist, and that these elections could happen anytime, means mods are constantly in the danger of getting voted out of office if they show abuse.

tpdplsio ago

It's just too easy to create drama with numbers then. Subverses will fill up with drama just like /v/Askvoat has in the last 24 hours. People will work the long con to fulfill whatever CCP or time requirements you impose. The modlogs are transparent, if a mod is abusing a sub then you should have to make your case directly to the admins.

TheKillerRabbit ago

Remember reddit? The admins themselves might be tyrannical. I love what Atko is doing with Voat, but I would never trust him with the power to seat and unseat mods. His own biases will definitely affect who he picks for moderator. I want the people to decide as they have the most objective bias since everyone's bias is taken into account.

tpdplsio ago

I mean, you have to give some trust to the guy that had the vision to start the site and put in the work. You already trust him with managing the whole thing and setting the tone for the whole site. I don't know what to tell you then if you don't trust him to make good decisions about mods.

TheKillerRabbit ago

For now, I trust him to make Voat great. Yet Voat will need money to survive in the longterm. Atko will eventually start making decisions that favor monetary gain over what everyone else wants. When that time comes, I lose my trust.

tpdplsio ago

You're assuming he'll have to choose between making money and protecting speech. Just because Reddit chose the money, that doesn't mean Voat can't do better and have both.

TheKillerRabbit ago

That is where we differ. I'm more pessimistic over what he will do while you remain hopeful.