AskVoat is no longer a default sub (announcements)

submitted ago by Atko

I can't stand by and watch stuff like this happen around here. I will not support subverses (by featuring them or making them defaults) with moderators who impose questionable rules such as "your post has to end with a questionmark". Moderators need to calm their tits and focus on nurturing and growing their communities. Rules can always be bent and what better time to bend the rules then now, while Voat is still growing and under development?

I am thankful for moderators who help keep Voat spam-free and I respect your work. I really do. I started working on automoderator for comments and submissions and your job will be made much easier when this is implemented, but for the time being, moderators need to relax and focus on removing spam and eventual illegal content. If I submit a new post and it gains some traction (hundreds of comments, views and upvoats), and my post gets removed because I broke a rule by forgetting to include a question mark in my submission title... well, I would be pissed. People take removal of their comments and submissions very seriously and moderators must think twice before removing stuff if they want to avoid offending users. Voat has a ranking process where time acts as gravity and older posts will eventually fall off the frontpage. Voat also has automatic public moderation logs and everything you remove will still be visible in these modlogs and your actions may be questioned by the community, just like what happened yesterday.

This action can be reverted if /askvoat mods can convince us that the issue has been dealt with or if some other, less restrictive community takes over.

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Kleyno ago

Holy shit in a hand basket. I think I must be dreaming. Did the Admins just do something to fix something, or something?

Someone, pinch me!

Boxlighter ago

Holy fuck. At the time of this comment you have +756/-7.

As in 7 downvotes.

There are 7 mods (although probabaly some inactive) on /Askvoat

MichaelTen ago

What was the outcome?

DoucheBagMcGee ago

Not to shamelessly pug, but I've started a new sub called /v/AskGoats. Come and contribute! :D

fabulousalpaca ago

I can poke you with a fork, will that be good?

BustyChicksFTW ago

You're not on Reddit anymore here my friend.

New_years_day ago

This is Voat not Reddit. These dudes give a fuck!

Aquahawk911 ago

But banning subreddits that you don't have to go to is productive, right?

dave31175 ago

banning subreddits that you don't have to go to is productive, right?

Care to elaborate? /v/askvoat wasn't banned, just no longer a default sub. Or am I missing something?

Aquahawk911 ago

I was hinting at reddit and the admins there

dave31175 ago

Ah, gotcha. Sorry, it's been a long year this week!

AtheistComic ago

Welcome to voat where we give a shit about the users not the elite... ALL USERS.

BloodPool ago

Consider yourself pinched. it's not a dream. @Atko and @puttitout for president! Wait, they are. Voat for life!

Rotteuxx ago

Dude, this is Voat. Admins are not a bunch of business assholes here. Expect more of this.

AlphaTaco ago

I also just learned of a block sub verse button on /v/all .bin there for a day or so now. Talk about giving people what they want.

FPHrefugee ago

I think I'm dreaming, /u/Atko you the real MVP

bisaya ago

The admins! The admins are here! We are saved!

Silverfoxx ago

Instead of AskVoat2 can someone go ahead and make AskVoaters if not already gone, oh and blackjack and hookers...

AtheistComic ago

AND WEED. And some high end Scotch!!!

codyave ago

Someone, pinch me!

https://vid.me/AVSo

SpaceRosa ago

You're surprised? Atko doesn't just sit on his arse counting donation money, you know. He works hard, and actually pays attention to what's going on on Voat.

codyave ago

I think I've been just so accustomed to the reddit admins that I didn't know something like this was possible.

Kleyno ago

I am like the abused puppy. I don't know why my Master keeps beating on me, but I have come to accept it.

puppy528 ago

Sometimes it's easier just to convince yourself you love the rolled-up newspaper.

Rea11yN0tMe ago

Now be a good doggy and fetch the morning paper for master :D

gaftra ago

When a company with 2 employees can fix rogue mod problems in under a day, how can a company with 66 employees and still no solution hope to compete? I fucking love voat

Mr_Wolf ago

They even make /redditrequest a joke and don't follow their own rules.

Sunofmoon ago

Didn't all you people leave Reddit because the Admins came down on subreddits overruling mods and the communities of those subs? Now they do the same thing here at voat and you guys get on your knees and suck them off.

CapitalJusticeWarior ago

We left because they were arbitrarily banning subreddits and doing shady things like shadowbanning users. All that was done here was removing a nitpicky community from the defaults.

cynoclast ago

Because to that other place, mods like @she are RightThinkers™. They don't see the site's most toxic community as anything harmful.

whatamidoingherev ago

It's called bureaucracy. Smaller companies always get things done quicker because there's no red tape.

BlackBetty ago

Don't do it @Atko. I'm a mod and all my sooper-powuuurs will be rendered useless. Oh wait, I forgot...I don't give a shit. I'm a glorified janitor. Nevermind.

Atko: Talk Shit, Get Hit.

654456 ago

Because they are achieving their end goal.

tribblepuncher ago

They're not trying to. They're trying to cultivate a marketable culture to encourage advertisers and/or make the site more attractive as an acquisition. Ironically they may have shot themselves in the foot there, considering the rioting.

Orgiesareawayoflife ago

Basically, who wants to buy reddit now? A site that put willingly set the front page on fire with Nazi flags, pictures of Hitler, fat people, calling the CEO all sorts of names etc now?

CaveChicken ago

They really did shoot themselves in the foot too. They had a great reputation, and they tarnished it by listening to the SRS mob. Most redditors didn't even know about coontown or FPH before SRS threw a hissy fit, but now the secret is out, and advertisers are pulling out.

drug ago

haha, are the SJW's so desperate they have to spam posts with bot accounts?

Kleyno ago

This is when you start to realise, that the other place is fully capable of solving all their problems, both with certain aspects of the community, and the tools they offer that community at large, but because they are only interested in becoming profitable, and see it as a job, rather than a labour of love, they have no incentive to improve their shit.

abcdefghijkelemnopq ago

$10 says that if voat ever (lol) becomes big, they will only be interested in becoming profitable.

SandorClegane ago

That's the thing. At this point improving their shit will make people realise they can

They're in for a lot of hard work if people realise just how easy many of their problems are to fix, and then will demand everything fixed pronto. At this point, the admins must remain useless to retain the 'omg we work so hahd' facade.

Minion2 ago

This is why I moved from Reddit to Voat

tpdplsio ago

Their incentive to improve it should include profit motive. They've simply allowed a controversial political viewpoint to direct their plan for achieving that profit that many of the users disagree with. Time will tell if it's ultimately successful, but people like me believe that you can preserve free speech, keep the userbase happy, and make a profit at the same time.

zoetry ago

This was a realization I came to when they fired Victoria.

They're a social company, whose success hinges on the happiness of their community, and they couldn't give us a heads up?

They waited days before telling us, and they interviewed with journalists before directly telling us.

Sheer incompetence.

escapefromredditbay ago

the sight, my god, its glorious.

Rea11yN0tMe ago

Just a quick heads up. If you link to the pic directly, users can open it inline like so:

"It's beautiful!"

Lord-Baltimore ago

Thanks

Kleyno ago

Don't stare at it too long, you'll come away being unable to see anything other than @Atko for the rest of your life!

SillyDillySaurus ago

You say that like its a bad thing.

puppy528 ago

There are worse horrors out there. He's easy on the eyes is what I'm saying.