So you're going to allow brigading? If a larger sub like FatPeopleHate with 31,000 users decide to fuck with a smaller sub, like FatPeopleAcceptance with 100 subs, you're going to allow them to do that?
Because that is what ProtectVoat did to /v/Chicago and there has been zero repercussions of that. Once CANCEL-CAT-FACTS made his post in ProtectVoat about what the mod of /v/Chicago had done (even though there were zero rules stating what he did was wrong), he had gotten brigaded by numerous users from that sub. Those individuals hadn't participated in the sub prior to that. Including one or more people who repeatedly created accounts to avoid bans with the sold purpose to force through harassment and intimidation what they wanted (again, despite there being absolutely no written rules or guidelines for that mod to know what he did was wrong).
And on that note, what about ban evasions?
Also, it seems completely unfair to WSIMBR (cough) that you're defining these rules after the fact of applying them against him. I would encourage you to look up 'ex post facto' laws. That was convicting a person of a crime one day, and the next day actually making what they did a crime
I have a feeling you are referring to the comment raid by /u/kimmykitten amongst others who posted comment spam to put pressure on the mods. This isn't so bad compared to what could happen if we had sub voting as some are suggesting.
That's not "brigading" obviously people who frequent certain subs feel the same way about certain issues and may voat the same way. You're basically saying people subbed to some verses shouldn't be allowed to voat how they want lest someone else do the same.
I think posts saying "go to this thread and voat like this" should be discouraged. But not removed. This ain't reddit. Anyway I didn't see anything like that in your examples.
That's not "brigading" obviously people who frequent certain subs feel the same way about certain issues and may voat the same way.
That exactly is brigading. If someone in FPH posts something like, "That douchebag mod of FPA has a new fattty girlfriend." And the members of that sub, without ever having stepped foot in FPA prior, flood that sub with posts and comments attacking that person and the sub ... that is brigading. Brigading doesn't need to be explicitly commanded in order for it to be brigading.
Thats bullshit and you know it. Nowhere were these guidelines posted, so he had no idea the shit storm that erupted. And instead of brigading the site, he should have been told and let him reconsider. Absent any guidelines or rules like this, the community attacked him and tried to use force and intimidation to get him to change which is bullshit. It is just as bad as what he did, and even worse, as it was being done by the masses. Vigilante justice is bullshit justice.
He tried to improve his sub and had good intentions but went about it the wrong way. ProtectVoat however is just a hub to brigade other subs and force their will onto other people through intimidation and harassment.
It's the difference between manslaughter where you kill a person accidentally through reckless behavior, and murder when you kill another human being with malice aforethought. And there is a reason those two crimes are punished differently.
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7584748? ago
So you're going to allow brigading? If a larger sub like FatPeopleHate with 31,000 users decide to fuck with a smaller sub, like FatPeopleAcceptance with 100 subs, you're going to allow them to do that?
Because that is what ProtectVoat did to /v/Chicago and there has been zero repercussions of that. Once CANCEL-CAT-FACTS made his post in ProtectVoat about what the mod of /v/Chicago had done (even though there were zero rules stating what he did was wrong), he had gotten brigaded by numerous users from that sub. Those individuals hadn't participated in the sub prior to that. Including one or more people who repeatedly created accounts to avoid bans with the sold purpose to force through harassment and intimidation what they wanted (again, despite there being absolutely no written rules or guidelines for that mod to know what he did was wrong).
And on that note, what about ban evasions?
Also, it seems completely unfair to WSIMBR (cough) that you're defining these rules after the fact of applying them against him. I would encourage you to look up 'ex post facto' laws. That was convicting a person of a crime one day, and the next day actually making what they did a crime
7591805? ago
I have a feeling you are referring to the comment raid by /u/kimmykitten amongst others who posted comment spam to put pressure on the mods. This isn't so bad compared to what could happen if we had sub voting as some are suggesting.
7585038? ago
That's not "brigading" obviously people who frequent certain subs feel the same way about certain issues and may voat the same way. You're basically saying people subbed to some verses shouldn't be allowed to voat how they want lest someone else do the same.
I think posts saying "go to this thread and voat like this" should be discouraged. But not removed. This ain't reddit. Anyway I didn't see anything like that in your examples.
7585346? ago
That exactly is brigading. If someone in FPH posts something like, "That douchebag mod of FPA has a new fattty girlfriend." And the members of that sub, without ever having stepped foot in FPA prior, flood that sub with posts and comments attacking that person and the sub ... that is brigading. Brigading doesn't need to be explicitly commanded in order for it to be brigading.
7585706? ago
You're going beyond trying to censor what people say and even censor how they vote.
Screw off back to reddit with that.
7584980? ago
v/chicago mod was a bitch-ass saboteur and was going to be brigaded by every Voater as they realized, dont pin it on PV.
7585081? ago
Thats bullshit and you know it. Nowhere were these guidelines posted, so he had no idea the shit storm that erupted. And instead of brigading the site, he should have been told and let him reconsider. Absent any guidelines or rules like this, the community attacked him and tried to use force and intimidation to get him to change which is bullshit. It is just as bad as what he did, and even worse, as it was being done by the masses. Vigilante justice is bullshit justice.
7585173? ago
You are full of shit and you know it. He was a trolling troll who got dealt with.
7585409? ago
He tried to improve his sub and had good intentions but went about it the wrong way. ProtectVoat however is just a hub to brigade other subs and force their will onto other people through intimidation and harassment.
It's the difference between manslaughter where you kill a person accidentally through reckless behavior, and murder when you kill another human being with malice aforethought. And there is a reason those two crimes are punished differently.
7585429? ago
How circlejerky of you to try that route. He was a trolling troll who got dealt with.