way to miss the point, dipshit. You choosing to sidestep laws that protect society at large has nothing to do with me and my "safe space", it has everything to do with creating unsafe spaces for children who can't do anything about it.
Actually, for many people it safely quells and satisfies a fantasy so it won't get out of control. Much like how masturbating clears the mind of sexual desire, and if you don't masturbate, sexual desire increases.
well any good parent would be watching out for their kids anyway. i promote all types of things that people hate, but i have always defended and promoted a parents right and responsibility to look out for their children.
its one thing to protect your children. its another thing entirely to demand that everyone else follow the same sets of beliefs that you hold. it is honorable to protect your children, it is very dishonorable and shitty to tell other people that they must view child nudity, or "sexualization" as a bad thing.
Most of those "sensitive" rules are designed to keep admins' arses safe, not to be sensible. If drawn/rendered cp is illegal in state Voat got registered in, or in US in general, it will be prohibited on the site, no matter what weebs - and we all fucking know it's them that complain the loudest about drawn cp being treated "unfairly" - shout.
drawn/rendered cp is legal in the US in general. sometimes it may be prosecuted under local obscenity laws but in general those are getting shut down. it is de facto legal, and has been through the supreme court.
In some places the law is written in a way that makes no distinction, probably because no one has drawings in mind when writing this, but as far as I know this gets rectified whenever challenged.
Were talking about sexualized images of children. I don't care if it's fucking ASCII art, I want it fucking eradicated.
If you want to see depictions of children being sexualized, you need to tell a doctor, because it can be relater to
OCD, and it can be cured. Interest in sexualized children is a mental illness, and we don't edify that.
Pretty simple. One is violating another human being, and skating at the edge of violating a human being. Dreaming of violating a human being, fantasizing, longing, masturbating, all to a fantasy of violation. That person is our issue, as a society, and needs to be addressed. And as I mentioned, there is medical treatment that can alleviate the symptoms in some cases. Get help, goddamn you.
i agree that one is violating another human being while the other is violating cartoons. i didn't realize that you masturbated over your fantasies of hurting pedos. you are more sadistic than i gave you credit for. you are right, you probably should get help.
I have no interest in hurting them, I said GET HELP. I didn't say fall into a pit and die slow. You have a mental illness, and it's possible
it could be cured. Have you pursued every avenue to this end, or are you looking to be coddled and applauded? Cause we don't do that
here for the mentally ill, (of which I am one). Swallow your pride. Stop justifying, stop making excuses. Get fucking help. Stop skating
around with gateway bullshit, because it WILL escalate, and it will steal a great deal of YOUR life, whether or not you act it out.
thanks for caring. i have spent a great deal of time looking into what could and could not be done about it. and there is no cure (other than death). what i can do about it is utilize legal outlets so that i don't get overly sexually frustrated and hurt somebody. what i can do about it is advocate for legal changes that allow for those who have the ability to understand to be able to consent. yes i agree that most young people are ignorant and can't understand and therefore can't give INFORMED CONSENT (the kind that i am concerned about, as well as legal consent which is the kind most people get stuck on as if there aren't more than one form of consent).
for those with the ability to make informed decisions, it is the law and society that is wrong. i can understand why, most humans have a biological imperative to protect children (with the exception of the 4% of sociopaths and psychopaths). i am not a psychopath or sociopath. i have no intent of hurting anyone nor doing anything illegal. i do believe that the laws should be changed to better address ability to make informed decisions. age is not as good of an indicator as IQ is.
Have you done any CBT? or DBT? I've heard claims that they are literally rewiring the neural pathways in the brains of people with
everything from PTSD to MDD to OCD. It does seem a little bit 'Clockwork Orange' from the outside, but to check it out might be
worth the time - of course the mental health care in most places is shit, but if you live near a metropolitan area, they will have the
equipment and the trained professionals. Have you been tried on Orap? I think the proper name is Pimozide? It's crazy, but one pill,
or pill combination, will just do nothing at all, and another can make big changes. It's frustrating and obnoxious, but again, worth it for
a shot at normalcy.
It's important to discover from what your thoughts and feelings stem, it can help a professional figure out a treatment plan - if you're
in the boonies, they probably aren't going to be able to help, and I understand not being willing to climb into the asshole of an asinine
system that has nothing for you. And I'm so goddamn sorry you're deal with this. This fucking life, eh? :/ hugs
yes i have done CBT. i was sexually abused as a teenager. i was the age of the girls that i am most attracted to now (and have been for a very long time). it seems that my sexual attraction has stayed frozen to that time frame in life that you have long outgrown. i was coerced, but at that time was able to understand and consent. i had no good choices, so i acquiesced. i very much understand the difference of coercion and don't condone it. i very much understand the ability to make informed decisions yet be held back from doing so. i promote autonomy.
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7584050? ago
Sexualized Content of Minors *
Should only concern real people, not drawings. Maybe common sense, maybe not.
7588379? ago
Please! There's so little places for these communities now :c
7585228? ago
that's not common sense, that's what pervs say to circumvent common sense. get that shit out.
7585515? ago
Go back to Reddit, then. Goats do not need safe spaces to protect them from things they dislike. At least that was my impression of Voat.
7588761? ago
way to miss the point, dipshit. You choosing to sidestep laws that protect society at large has nothing to do with me and my "safe space", it has everything to do with creating unsafe spaces for children who can't do anything about it.
7597467? ago
Making drawings and writing stories are not things that hurt children. In the same sense that making a movie about killing people doesn't harm anyone.
7598968? ago
Feeds a fantasy and builds on it
7599746? ago
Actually, for many people it safely quells and satisfies a fantasy so it won't get out of control. Much like how masturbating clears the mind of sexual desire, and if you don't masturbate, sexual desire increases.
7602231? ago
And for many it gives them ideas.
7588801? ago
are you implying that voat is a children's site?
7589054? ago
no. I'm implying that a person who posts cartoon CP is no more welcome around my kids that someone who posts actual CP
7599736? ago
Then don't let your kids on Voat. There's plenty of other reasons they shouldn't be here, too.
7589171? ago
well any good parent would be watching out for their kids anyway. i promote all types of things that people hate, but i have always defended and promoted a parents right and responsibility to look out for their children.
its one thing to protect your children. its another thing entirely to demand that everyone else follow the same sets of beliefs that you hold. it is honorable to protect your children, it is very dishonorable and shitty to tell other people that they must view child nudity, or "sexualization" as a bad thing.
7586848? ago
Then you got the wrong impression.
7584428? ago
Most of those "sensitive" rules are designed to keep admins' arses safe, not to be sensible. If drawn/rendered cp is illegal in state Voat got registered in, or in US in general, it will be prohibited on the site, no matter what weebs - and we all fucking know it's them that complain the loudest about drawn cp being treated "unfairly" - shout.
7586763? ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashcroft_v._Free_Speech_Coalition
drawn/rendered cp is legal in the US in general. sometimes it may be prosecuted under local obscenity laws but in general those are getting shut down. it is de facto legal, and has been through the supreme court.
7584223? ago
no /v/rfh and cartoons depicting sex with children should go.
7588035? ago
Who gave you that right?
7588394? ago
What right?
7587256? ago
Let's start drawing up what should go.
Hey, /v/niggers should go.
7588771? ago
v/pizzagate should go, so should v/occidentalenclave
7587361? ago
Yeah man, and /v/fatpeoplehate
7587688? ago
Fatpeoplehate are the biggest censors on voat
7586550? ago
Just block it, like I did. Loli is clearly and unambiguously legal.
7584556? ago
Agreed. I am tired of that shit.
7584085? ago
There are apperntly legal restrictions in some areas like Utah which make them legal count as the same thing.
7584224? ago
In some places the law is written in a way that makes no distinction, probably because no one has drawings in mind when writing this, but as far as I know this gets rectified whenever challenged.
7584392? ago
In some places, pictures of women wearing a bikini is illegal. If she's not pictured wearing a burka, it's illegal.
Should we ban all subverses that fall within this "grey area?"
7584889? ago
False comparison. No more sexualized children, in any form. The end.
7585407? ago
People seem to have a problem with understanding this simple thing and keep bringing up slippery slope.
7585453? ago
We're talking about banning drawings. That's a fucking thought crime.
7586644? ago
Were talking about sexualized images of children. I don't care if it's fucking ASCII art, I want it fucking eradicated. If you want to see depictions of children being sexualized, you need to tell a doctor, because it can be relater to OCD, and it can be cured. Interest in sexualized children is a mental illness, and we don't edify that.
7586780? ago
i want people like you eradicated. how do we rectify our difference of opinion?
7587653? ago
Pretty simple. One is violating another human being, and skating at the edge of violating a human being. Dreaming of violating a human being, fantasizing, longing, masturbating, all to a fantasy of violation. That person is our issue, as a society, and needs to be addressed. And as I mentioned, there is medical treatment that can alleviate the symptoms in some cases. Get help, goddamn you.
7592882? ago
Pray the gay away.
7592905? ago
That's not medical treatment, that's retards with a superstition.
7588042? ago
i agree that one is violating another human being while the other is violating cartoons. i didn't realize that you masturbated over your fantasies of hurting pedos. you are more sadistic than i gave you credit for. you are right, you probably should get help.
7588109? ago
I have no interest in hurting them, I said GET HELP. I didn't say fall into a pit and die slow. You have a mental illness, and it's possible it could be cured. Have you pursued every avenue to this end, or are you looking to be coddled and applauded? Cause we don't do that here for the mentally ill, (of which I am one). Swallow your pride. Stop justifying, stop making excuses. Get fucking help. Stop skating around with gateway bullshit, because it WILL escalate, and it will steal a great deal of YOUR life, whether or not you act it out.
I love you, asshole.
7588222? ago
thanks for caring. i have spent a great deal of time looking into what could and could not be done about it. and there is no cure (other than death). what i can do about it is utilize legal outlets so that i don't get overly sexually frustrated and hurt somebody. what i can do about it is advocate for legal changes that allow for those who have the ability to understand to be able to consent. yes i agree that most young people are ignorant and can't understand and therefore can't give INFORMED CONSENT (the kind that i am concerned about, as well as legal consent which is the kind most people get stuck on as if there aren't more than one form of consent).
for those with the ability to make informed decisions, it is the law and society that is wrong. i can understand why, most humans have a biological imperative to protect children (with the exception of the 4% of sociopaths and psychopaths). i am not a psychopath or sociopath. i have no intent of hurting anyone nor doing anything illegal. i do believe that the laws should be changed to better address ability to make informed decisions. age is not as good of an indicator as IQ is.
7588354? ago
Have you done any CBT? or DBT? I've heard claims that they are literally rewiring the neural pathways in the brains of people with everything from PTSD to MDD to OCD. It does seem a little bit 'Clockwork Orange' from the outside, but to check it out might be worth the time - of course the mental health care in most places is shit, but if you live near a metropolitan area, they will have the equipment and the trained professionals. Have you been tried on Orap? I think the proper name is Pimozide? It's crazy, but one pill, or pill combination, will just do nothing at all, and another can make big changes. It's frustrating and obnoxious, but again, worth it for a shot at normalcy.
It's important to discover from what your thoughts and feelings stem, it can help a professional figure out a treatment plan - if you're in the boonies, they probably aren't going to be able to help, and I understand not being willing to climb into the asshole of an asinine system that has nothing for you. And I'm so goddamn sorry you're deal with this. This fucking life, eh? :/ hugs
7588458? ago
yes i have done CBT. i was sexually abused as a teenager. i was the age of the girls that i am most attracted to now (and have been for a very long time). it seems that my sexual attraction has stayed frozen to that time frame in life that you have long outgrown. i was coerced, but at that time was able to understand and consent. i had no good choices, so i acquiesced. i very much understand the difference of coercion and don't condone it. i very much understand the ability to make informed decisions yet be held back from doing so. i promote autonomy.