First and foremost, we must acknowledge that even if we don't necessarily like what the subscribers there say or how they say it, Voat is a platform entirely dedicated to free speech. If we start banning speech of any kind (other than spam, because that is usually agreed to be one of the first things that everyone is fine getting rid of), then it is a slippery slope to keep banning more and more kinds of speech until we turn into another echo chamber like Reddit, where the shadowbans supposedly created to stop spammers are regularly used to silence critics and AutoModerators are set by the subreddit mods to automatically delete any perceived "wrongthink" by the users.
Option 2 is basically surrendering to the people who bought/hacked/doxxed @WhiteSoIMustBeRacist into advancing their agenda, without ever even fighting them. It is an entirely unacceptable response.
Option 3 is the "scorched earth retreat" policy. It might solve the problem for now, but what happens next time, or the time after that, or the time after that? It is a policy that we can't allow to become the norm.
That leaves us with only 1 real option:
Option 1: purge the current mods, and hand them over to a user who supports the community. It may get annoying in how often it repeats itself (who knows, maybe it'll stop in a few months/years when the CTR money has finally dried up), but it prevents these rogues from gaining any permanent ground or doing any permanent damage.
I'm sorry that it keeps coming back to this community, both in terms of "making it difficult to find an investor" and "making life difficult when the site keeps regularly exploding over bad moderators", but right now, I can't see any better way of keeping everyone's free speech protected while also completely rejecting the attempts of these attackers to change our way of speaking and operating.
Apparently, @adhdferret and @Bilbo_Swaggins are both tired of the v/niggers subverse name, and want to have the content just transferred to either v/coontown (their original hope when coming to Voat, but it got taken by a rogue moderator and they moved on to v/niggers) or v/coonshire (their current backup subverse), so Option 3 to either of those subverses is actually the best here.
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First and foremost, we must acknowledge that even if we don't necessarily like what the subscribers there say or how they say it, Voat is a platform entirely dedicated to free speech. If we start banning speech of any kind (other than spam, because that is usually agreed to be one of the first things that everyone is fine getting rid of), then it is a slippery slope to keep banning more and more kinds of speech until we turn into another echo chamber like Reddit, where the shadowbans supposedly created to stop spammers are regularly used to silence critics and AutoModerators are set by the subreddit mods to automatically delete any perceived "wrongthink" by the users.
Option 2 is basically surrendering to the people who bought/hacked/doxxed @WhiteSoIMustBeRacist into advancing their agenda, without ever even fighting them. It is an entirely unacceptable response.
Option 3 is the "scorched earth retreat" policy. It might solve the problem for now, but what happens next time, or the time after that, or the time after that? It is a policy that we can't allow to become the norm.That leaves us with only 1 real option:Option 1: purge the current mods, and hand them over to a user who supports the community. It may get annoying in how often it repeats itself (who knows, maybe it'll stop in a few months/years when the CTR money has finally dried up), but it prevents these rogues from gaining any permanent ground or doing any permanent damage.I'm sorry that it keeps coming back to this community, both in terms of "making it difficult to find an investor" and "making life difficult when the site keeps regularly exploding over bad moderators", but right now, I can't see any better way of keeping everyone's free speech protected while also completely rejecting the attempts of these attackers to change our way of speaking and operating.Apparently, @adhdferret and @Bilbo_Swaggins are both tired of the v/niggers subverse name, and want to have the content just transferred to either v/coontown (their original hope when coming to Voat, but it got taken by a rogue moderator and they moved on to v/niggers) or v/coonshire (their current backup subverse), so Option 3 to either of those subverses is actually the best here.