Today I will be badging everyone who donated (except for those who told us not to). When you donated, you were asked to enter your Voat username in the description box. If you did not do this for whatever reason, and still wish to receive your donor badge, please wait 24 hours and then if your donor badge is not visible on your profile page, send an email to [email protected] and mention your donation transaction ID and your Voat username. Since the badging process is currently not automated, I will be spending a large chunk of this Sunday on this task.
I would like to use this opportunity to THANK YOU all who donated as your donations are what keeps Voat online and what keeps us motivated to fight our way forward. I wish I could say thank you to each and every one of you personally, but the number of people who donated it just too big to manage.
Anyways, I hope to be able to make another announcement soon with more information on our monthly operating costs. I'd love to do an ama-type thing with Putt and answer any questions you guys may have, but I can't promise anything at this point.
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Zinnsee ago
Good to see you again. Some of us were kind of worried.
Atko ago
Thank you. I know you guys were worried and I don't blame you, we need to be more visible and steer the ship, so to speak. Stay vigilant and always question everything.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
worried? what about: all admins for our site drop it like a bad habit and disappear for a month. within that month, you atko, come back 2.5 weeks later, post some (normally - for you - ) weird stuff and don't answer basically anyone's questions. and then go silent for a week.
at the SAME time the slimg devs disappear, and tech comes back around when you do.
hecho's account stopped. amalek's (doing another round of) claiming to quit because "voat's been compromised"
that warrant canary is, after further investigation, incomplete and not legally binding, there fore we believe you and putt may be under a gag. now, if you are under a gag, you can't say you are. and if you are under a gag, they can't compel you to lie. write the code i've sent you.
WE, the Where's Putt Foundation, are hot on the trail of this breaking news story,
and will continue to report on it. we have respectfully asked you for comment for a while now, and we will continue to politely ask for it.
we await all questions answered, and are at defcon 3. heightened awareness and readyness to jump ship, heightened intelligence gathering. we are 5 days from defcon 2, barring an official answer to all of these questions from you and puttitout.
edit: thank you for your response below!
we can't wait for your second one :)
HomerSimpson ago
Except they always show up when you ping them.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
except i pm'd them a few days ago about this and no reply from either of them.
hey homer!
HomerSimpson ago
Weird. They do when I ping them.
Donbuster ago
You DO know how warrant canaries work, right?
SaneGoatiSwear ago
you DO know there are many more ways to gag someone than just fisa/ns requests, right?
injunctions, super injunctions, judge-given gag orders in general, etc... NOT listed on voat's "warrant canary." which means if they have one of those gags, they can still post that "canary" and would not be "being compelled to lie."
Citizen ago
If something listed on voat's warrant canary was done, such as a FISA request, we would only know if Atko were to not post a new warrant canary. Therefore, we must trust Atko and Atko's judgement in order for the warrant canary to have any meaning.
If you consider that we are already trusting Atko's judgement, I believe that if he were to receive a different sort of gag order, he would want everyone to know. The only way to signal that something had happened would be to remove the warrant canary.
Pawn ago
the requests can include that they keep the canary up.
Citizen ago
The courts have found that the first amendment protects against compelled speech even more strongly than it protects against prior restraint on speech. On the other hand, ex-parte orders preventing speech deprive people of their first amendment rights without due process, so you would think they're illegal to begin with. On the gripping hand, warrant canaries are unproven in court, and the court doesn't look kindly at people attempting to "work around" the law.
In short, it's a big mess, and we're waiting for the courts to clear it up. As things are, the government is in no hurry to set any precedents, because the status quo is in their favour.
SaneGoatiSwear ago
@citizen please understand that there are many things that can happen. injunctions, super injunctions, gag orders from judges (not just fisa orders and ns letters).
if he had a different gag order, he couldn't let us know. that's the whole point of gag orders
the warrant canary works by leveraging the part of the law that says the gag can't compel the gagged to lie.
he could have non-ns/fisa gag order or injunction or super injunction right now, and saying 0 ns/fisa would still be a truth, and they could absolutely compel him to put it up with announcements.
my proposed better verbage is still being worked on by a few goats here, but so far it's something like this:
"we have had 0 (zero) gag orders, National Security Requests, FISA orders, injunctions, super-injunctions, publication bans, nor any other free-speech prohibiting action against us nor against voat nor against any signed-in user of voat or against any guest user nor against any groups of any type of users to the date (of the last dead man's switch press) [[of the last posting of this notification]] - - as well, up to that point, voat has been up to that point neither a trap of any kind nor has it up to that point been a honeypot. if this notification is not posted or no announcements are made (one) month to the second after the previous announcement, consider voat compromised and act accordingly."
Jasoman ago
I question this.
Fambida ago
I question you.
What's the basis for claims that the Indian riots of 1862 were based on a shortage of cow's milk angering the Hindu population?
ThisIsMyRealName ago
Asking the real questions
BustyChicksFTW ago
You people are way too paranoid.
Jasoman ago
And I question you because of your username.
BustyChicksFTW ago
:| What's wrong with boobs?
Pattoe ago
Half the time that the term 'busty' is used now, it actually means fat.
Are you into real busty girls or people who think bags of fat and cholesterol count as sexy?
BustyChicksFTW ago
First of all, busty just means big boobs. You're thinking about "curvy".
Second of all, big boobs average body. A lil chub is acceptable.
Third of all, why do you care what other people are into? Sad troll attempt :/
Pattoe ago
I just speak from experience, the shift in what people are using "busty" to mean.
Fair enough.
I was just having a discussion, maybe you are mistaking me with a different user who was posting earlier? I've not attempted to troll here.
HarveyHarveyJones ago
A skinny girl with big boobs is still a busty girl in my boom. Edit: book* not boom.
Pattoe ago
That's what busty should mean, my own experience is that fat girls are using the term busty to describe themselves, even though their "breasts" are nothing but fat.
I just think the term is being perverted, in the same way that curvy has been.
DigitalRefugee ago
Yeah. Sounds a bit pod person-ish.
6186197? ago
To determine if someone is a pod person, stab a nail into its heart. If it draws green blood, it was a pod person.
HarveyHarveyJones ago
You're not the only one.