How so? The world has billions of camera phones in it now and there's still no proof of the supernatural or magic.

Proof required.

Coincidence or myth. Either or. And the thing about coincidences is that there's a million times where it doesn't line up, but your association with the one time things do is so strong you don't even think about the million failures.

Right... Now that you and 70times7 are talking about it I'm curious...

What's the deal with the firmament?

Space is water. That's what the firmament is holding back. It's even spoken about in the Bible, as the primal waters.

Here's the rocket hitting something. Put sound up, it's clear it hit something. https://youtu.be/001IXnp0ogc

Skip to 4:05 and listen,min about 8 seconds it happens.

Based off Byrd/highjump/fishbowl i'd say the firmament is full and intact. I don't believe it is something that can be destroyed, I don't believe in a perimeter but rather an infinite plane. This is Earth. Up is up, down is down. Low earth orbit is under the firmament. I think Schumann resonances have an important role to play that is not fully understood.

Consider the resolution of the human eye and its ability to distinguish two points at a distance. This is observed by the converging lines of perception forming a "false horizon" and easily proved by laying on your stomach in a field and watching someone walk away from you (you could use a camera too). Your angle of view determines the convergent point for the false horizon. This phenomena would be observed on both a sphere model and on an infinite plane model.

When a ship disappears bottom first, it is because of the ocean waves between the observer and the bottom of the ship are two points that no longer become distinguishable from eachother and hence they "converge" into a false horizon. This is proved by watching a ship disappear with your own naked eyes, only to be brought back into view with modern viewing equipment.

How could modern viewing equipment do this? Resolution of the equipment verses the resolution and biological limitations of the human eye. The equipment as a higher resolution and as a result it can distinguish two points with greater clarity. All of this is observed at a range well under the needed distance to get the SAME effect out of the actual curvature of the earth.

Meaning; most people attribute the "bottom up" effect to the actual curvature of the earth where in fact it is actually due to their perception alone. The height required to actually observe the curvature of the earth is over 40k ft. All arguments saying the curvature of the earth is proven by x object disappearing are false conclusions.

If you can understand the above, Congratulations you understand the basic concepts of vision. The argument of things disappearing bottom up is the first permutation of logic where people get it wrong. If they can't get this right they will get everything else wrong and its why they think flat earth is so easy to disprove when in actuality they are just ignorant of how ignorant they are.

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show me one single repeatable measurable experiment that conclusively demonstrates that gravity could be the only and singular plausible explanation.

show me one single example of matter inherently attracting matter without medium by gravity that could not otherwise be explained.

Show me an iota of dust being attracted to anything due to gravity alone without any other plausible explanation.

Density mechanics explains observations.

• https://youtu.be/UCMPLgvwHmE

• https://youtu.be/DdAg-3GF8rg

• https://youtu.be/ZXq0Pf1vVV8

• https://youtu.be/4ZtXkV8jlfs

• https://youtu.be/bIGQ2k5vuRY

• https://youtu.be/0i0UA4wF4s4

• https://youtu.be/Qr6Vcvl0OeU

Video backups

https://invidio.us/watch?v=UCMPLgvwHmE :

Simple Proof that the ISS is Nothing More than a Hollywood Production - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=DdAg-3GF8rg :

The ISS Exposed - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=ZXq0Pf1vVV8 :

A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=4ZtXkV8jlfs :

7 Rockets Hit Dome! - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=bIGQ2k5vuRY :

Flat Earth Awakening ~ Fake Space Documentary 2019 - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=0i0UA4wF4s4 :

Are We Spinning? - YouTube

https://invidio.us/watch?v=Qr6Vcvl0OeU :

Astronauts Gone Wild - YouTube

The have the capability to fake it with the sets already made. But they wouldn't do that would they? Child fucking and eating satanist jews wouldn't lie to the goyium about space would they? They control history and science. Learn.

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• https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/video/nasa-s-neutral-buoyancy-lab-is-like-zero-gravity-on-earth-1003330115607

• https://www.nbcnews.com/mach/video/take-a-tour-of-nasa-s-full-size-mockup-of-the-international-space-station-1001749059815

• https://www.scubadiving.com/nasas-underwater-lab

• https://duckduckgo.com/?q=nasa+NBL&t=hp&iax=images&ia=images

• https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2237819/NASAs-ingenious-moon-simulator-helped-prepare-Apollo-astronauts-land-gone-before.html

• https://www.nasa.gov/centers/langley/multimedia/project-lola.html

• https://crgis.ndc.nasa.gov/historic/Additional_Photos_for_the_Impact_Dynamics_Research_Facility

• https://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Rockefeller_Initiative_Documents.htm

• https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/12743

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Tom buy my tshirts delonge coms

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• https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/hillary-clinton-ufo-aliens-podesta/

• http://www.paradigmresearchgroup.org/Rockefeller%20Documents/RID-11-1-95.htm#1

• 1947

• Fishbowl

• Highjump

• https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/12/01/503973422/buzz-aldrin-is-medically-evacuated-from-antarctica

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System

• https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_Nations

The lie starts with two for one experimentation. You are living in a world reflective of mathematics alone and completely void of all basis in actuality.

Space is fake and gay.

Gravity is fake and gay.

NO spin, NO curve.

Who is behind the "aliens" narrative?

Who opposed Tesla and the knowledge of the aether?

When was the Aether "disproved"?

Who is Albert Einstein?

Is he a kid fucking jew?

Does the theory of relativity and gravity counter the theory of the Aether?

Why?

Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe {innate} gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & {essential} to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force {may} be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I beleive no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it. Gravity must be caused by an agent {acting} <7v> consta{ntl}y according to certain laws, but whether this agent be material or immaterial is a question I have left to the consideration of my readers.

Thats from newton himself.

http://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00258

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https://nypost.com/2014/04/03/bill-clinton-an-alien-attack-would-unite-us-i-investigated-area-51/

https://youtu.be/CDScioLF-PQ

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Question on the whole never been to space thing. Not only would they have to fake every video of people in space. They would have to fake a whole area of science Cosmology. They would have to fake every satellite, every telescope. There would be so much to fake that some where someone would fuck up. Also Im suppose to believe government bureaucrats are the ones doing this? The same ones inept at there jobs?