There has been an increasing number of content that is bordering or crossing the lines concerning making "threats." So much so that we have been formally contacted regarding some content. We are better than this.
I'm not a lawyer, and you're not a lawyer, and it isn't Voat's place to defend illegal content. We don't have a staff to review content and don't have a team of lawyers dedicated to deciding what is and isn't lawful. I'm not also into endlessly debating what is and isn't legal as subjects like this often devolve into when everyone at the party is an "internet expert."
We have to deal with this issue and if content is in the grey area, we are going to remove it upon request. We also have to cooperate with law enforcement, I hope everyone fully understands that we are not attempting to operate outside of the law. Voat's purpose is to provide a collusion and censorship free place for discussion, not taking on a government.
It's easy to avoid this entire area: Word content maturely, avoid implicit and explicit language concerning the involvement of violence and the content won't be in question. Simple, so very simple.
After this post there will most likely be "users" testing this line and hoping we remove their content in order to claim censorship on Voat. This is just how things like this work. Don't fall for this Voat. It would be simply incredible if we just worked together on this instead of the typical shit storm posts like this usually generate.
As a reminder: Voat is for your personal, lawful use. See it here: https://voat.co/help/useragreement
That's all. Thanks for reading. Carry on.
Edit:
ProTip: I decided to post this before anything legal would prevent me from doing so. I have a feeling I know where this is going to lead.
I've also updated the canary to reflect this as well (this may be the last time that little guy gets an update, we will just have to wait and see).
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Obrez ago
I see a lot of people denying what Putt is saying, or blaming it on one group, or any number of interlopers and I get why but we need to be honest about this if only in this moment, because we must protect this platform, Putt isn't asking you to like this, so don't like it and be cautious of anybody who tries to use the policy shift to abuse people, Putt has to take reports seriously now and we can't know how serious he is here, so use more elusive language, be more responsible in general, when Putt issues out disciplinary actions or bans report back so we know what is off limits and do not take it personally.
Plenty of honest voaters make such "threats", there's a wide cross section that are pro-Tarrant/Brevik and pro-accelerationism, Qoomers post "threats" to folks in the deepstate and many promise to kill "shills", most of whom are regular goats trying to shatter their delusions, then there are the self appointed pedo hunters, who find a target and harass them no matter how flimsy or concrete their evidence that this person is problematic and this harassment frequently includes death threats and doxing attempts of accused "pedos" and anybody who gets in the way of their soft headed witch hunting(I'm not talking about pizzagate guys, they seem to have some real discipline), there is also a huge number of users who have no problem with saying things like gas the jews or will encourage violence in minecraft
It's mostly cowards and people with their heads between their knees saying that only FBI and JIDF are encouraging violence, they, mossad and CIA, along with other western intel agencies have a presence here and are involved in encouraging violence but the instances of explicit encouragement of violence or ""terrorist"/revolutionary action are maybe 60% interlopers and 40% regular disgruntled goats and independent nutjobs and that's a gracious estimate on my part.
I like 8chan and I have no problem going back there if Voat goes down but I would much more prefer voat stay upright and intact so don't test Putt, Don't use the report function unless an explicit call to violence is used and it gets a massive amount of visibility, contact the user first and ask them to massage their language so putt doesn't have to take action. we've got to get more creative and we've got to be more cautious, the enemy is among us and they are scared, they will use any tools they have to fight us and the will use our words and the law as a fulcrum and lever to topple this place if we let them, don't let them.
captainstrange ago
Would you believe it's 90%?
If you don't, you're naive.
They could and they would because they are.
"Wheres the proof!" he cries!
Because I know enough about their character to understand what they would do to win.
They say, in the KKK, a great deal of the members talked about violence.
And they say at one point over half the KKK were informants.
Really activates my almonds.
We've always wanted to just be left alone.
The left, the communists, and the felons in the alphabet agencies are the ones that want violence.
They've always been the ones that want violence.
So much so that they commit it regularly and manufacture it to pin it on the right.
This is not conjecture, and you know what I'm saying is true.
Mark my words, screenshot that shit, because the day they justify the enforcement of the first effective gun ban ("maybe just magazines, maybe just handguns, maybe just in the cities, maybe just in high crimes areas outside of the cities, maybe just some semiauto rifles, maybe just those who aren't law enforcement")--the day they justify the enforcement of the first effective deplatforming "because the majority (lies) of this small platform are radicals and right wing extremists"--will be the day the guys in the alphabet agencies commit another massive, murderous terrorist attack against america which the media will claim we did.
NSA, CIA, FBI, DHS, all of them. They'll commit violence in our name. They already do. And they'll use the law to destroy us.
Obrez ago
I'd believe at most it's 60%, probably a whole lot less, people are mad and many people are just waiting for a movement to take part in, we could have a putsch next week if we had leaders we trusted and an organization to feel a part of. , I'd bet at least 5% of the people who went to trump rallies would be ready to get to ground pounding, look at the forces stick man raised in no time, look at how many people showed up to charlottesville. People want action, people want to take action, it's why the clownworld meme has stuck like it has, the allusions to action.
captainstrange ago
Because they see shit happening that shouldn't. They see a two tier justice system.
They see obvious, blatant crime going unpunished. And they are persecuted for fighting back or entertaining the notion of it. And peaceful protest hasn't worked because the state is allowing one side to commit violence to silence the other side.
And when they do it again, when the right says "we're not gonna take it any more", they will blame us for starting the violence. Just like abusers.
People are mad because they believe peaceful change has been made impossible.
We are threatened daily by felons with guns who work for actual abusers in suits. It's literally all they are. People are mad because they actually see it for a change, they see it and they see how blatant it is, how imposed it is, and the arrogance, and smugness of the people doing it stokes that fire, as if they're all fucking us while having a big laugh at our expense.
People are mad because "words and soothing noises coming out of your brand blue, brand red" muppets aren't gonna fucking cut it any more when inaction by one side, or crimes by another happen, and people aren't being put in jail over it. Small fish arrested. Not gonna fucking cut it anymore. Saying "we'll look into it, we're investigating", like in the florida elections? Not gonna fucking cut it any more. Imposing new laws and regulations while not giving input, or air to grievances, or using paid monkeys sitting in texas or new jersey to dogpile and minimize public outcry?
Not gonna fucking cut it any more.
Peopel are mad because they aren't being fucking represented anymore. But they sure as shit are being taxed. Without their consent. And they sure as shit are being regulated. Without their consent. And they sure as shit are being patrolled and imposed on. Without their consent. And they sure as shit are being shut down in the public square and online. Without their consent. And fined, and fee'd, and fondled at the airport, and told to shut up and sit down, and labelled by DHS, and persecuted for stupid shit like pulling guns on home invaders, and on and on and on.
People are fucking mad and they aren't gonna take it.
Everything else is bullshit.
The law is a farce and pretense for the government and people on government pensions to do whatever the fuck they want to you, whenever they want to you.
The law is a fucking farce and the federal government doesn't have any legitimacy anymore.
They're just ruling by fear and force at this point, or nearly.
Fuck them and their pretenses.
I don't believe in none of it anymore. It's all bullshit.
Obrez ago
THERE IT IS; I'm saving this and using it later, seriously great post. It reads like the sort of political skits we saw in MDE presents: World Peace. You didn't even need the JQ, a fucking lay up for burning up normies who need to get mad.
captainstrange ago
Yep. Moved past the JQ to "doesn't matter who it is. If they're fucking us, white, black, brown, jewish, or yellow, they need to go."
Obrez ago
You don't seem the type to like weeb shit but I'm going to recommend something I give to people who are woke but fine with just letting mudshits and kikes go if they get out of our business, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, I got turned onto it in 2015 when the GEOTUS memes started, it's the story of how social and moral decay at the time just prior to space exploration led to a thousand year fascist state and how a splinter faction that strove for democracy rose and crumbled under it's own inadequacy. There's a good chance it's on your streaming service of choice if you have one if not, you can pirate it or deal with a finicky weeb streaming site like this one: https://aniwatcher.com/legend-of-the-galactic-heroes-episode-1 it's long (110eps) but the story it needs to tell has a bow on it by episode 20 something.
The elements therein describe how political revolution becomes nigh impossible against a global super state, how any ideologies that escape into space will never be able to be defeated or be reformed without multiple factors more human suffering than we could possibly experience on our home planet to force a revolution.
Jews and muslims can't be allowed to escape, finishing them off on earth, even if were talking about 2.5 billion people(we can finish the job with a fraction of that) will still be far fewer people than will die in the eons of future wars if we let either go; and allowing them to persist leaves an opening for the jews to try weimarization another time and if they hold power when the true age of interplanetary flight begins we will never be able to solve that problem.