There has been an increasing number of content that is bordering or crossing the lines concerning making "threats." So much so that we have been formally contacted regarding some content. We are better than this.
I'm not a lawyer, and you're not a lawyer, and it isn't Voat's place to defend illegal content. We don't have a staff to review content and don't have a team of lawyers dedicated to deciding what is and isn't lawful. I'm not also into endlessly debating what is and isn't legal as subjects like this often devolve into when everyone at the party is an "internet expert."
We have to deal with this issue and if content is in the grey area, we are going to remove it upon request. We also have to cooperate with law enforcement, I hope everyone fully understands that we are not attempting to operate outside of the law. Voat's purpose is to provide a collusion and censorship free place for discussion, not taking on a government.
It's easy to avoid this entire area: Word content maturely, avoid implicit and explicit language concerning the involvement of violence and the content won't be in question. Simple, so very simple.
After this post there will most likely be "users" testing this line and hoping we remove their content in order to claim censorship on Voat. This is just how things like this work. Don't fall for this Voat. It would be simply incredible if we just worked together on this instead of the typical shit storm posts like this usually generate.
As a reminder: Voat is for your personal, lawful use. See it here: https://voat.co/help/useragreement
That's all. Thanks for reading. Carry on.
Edit:
ProTip: I decided to post this before anything legal would prevent me from doing so. I have a feeling I know where this is going to lead.
I've also updated the canary to reflect this as well (this may be the last time that little guy gets an update, we will just have to wait and see).
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Wheatstone ago
I would suggest they are advised to identify the post first. Then submit it to the department of defence to certify that it wasn't a post from one of their COIN operations against this site.
They should also be able to make a legal declaration that they themselves (Lawyer's and clients) aren't guilty of posting the comments themselves.
At that point they can genuinely start making claims against this site!
They are unable to provide any evidence that this was a genuine post from a user here until they acknowledge these tactics are used by governments, ngo's and even law firms!
The burden of providing reasonable proof lies with them. Otherwise this is unsubstantiated slander and using the legal system as a tool of political repression. That makes them the guilty party.
Tell them to get their act together or they will be facing criminal charges. They are Lawyer's and should know better.
Attacking our freedom of speech could be a massive liability for them. Especially if they are involved in manufacturing evidence for this aim.
The Lawyer's need to watch their step here.
No one fucks with us and walks away from it!
Digital colonoscopy incoming fucktards!
fujin ago
You my friend have no real world expreience in dealing with the Feds. This all sounds pretty and good but in practice things like "entrapment" go out the window.
The gov't setups honeypots and you can argue that you wouldn't have committed a crime "if gobberment agents didn't set me up!" but while the courts and attorneys are fucking you in the ass and this site is shutdown that entrapment evidence will still stand.
Wheatstone ago
But the simple fact is all these tactics are psychotic and criminal in nature. This is the actual crime being committed. They can manipulate and lie in court all they want. But when one person shows their tactics are an exact match for narcissistic abuse, manipulation and control they will shit their pants!
Call them out on using exclusively these tactics and they will not take the risk. https://www.brainsyntax.com/Portal/Material/1/David_McDonough_Gov_abuse_brainsyntax.pdf
This is the real world. Learn this or you are helpless to their pathological manipulation.
I live in the real world because I took my power back.
Do you really think the judges and lawyers will take the risk of being exposed using the same tactics pedophiles use to terrorize people? Especially when they have so many victims of their corruption?
I would be happy to take the stand for anything I have written here. They will never take me to court. Because they lose.
You need to understand how psychotic and predatory Lawyer's are. Understand the mind and tactics of the psychopaths and you will not be fooled by these clowns.
fujin ago
Well, there's a clear distinction between State/Local and Fed court system. Take a stand all you want friend, but the fact remains if you're in Fed's their crosshair there's a near [98% chance] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conviction_rate#United_States) (more accurate numbers) of losing the game.
The key is avoid being prosecuted to begin with so if you stand by your words here I'm sure you've used good discretion on the shitposting you've done.
Wheatstone ago
I have used discretion. I haven't threatened anyone.
But I honestly believe the threats are coming from the intelligence (Freemasons) community trying to slander us all by association.
These fools catch themselves out. They think this dumb shit playbook is magic and can't fail. All you have to do is sit back and let them use their pedo tactics then call them out for it. Boom!, they are publicly exposed and shamed themselves.
They really are that fucking stupid. Learn this shit. It gives you a massive edge against these sick fucks.