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xigoi ago

For the same reason that atheists have morals: humans are a social species and wouldn't survive if they weren't able to form a society.

Merlynn ago

Jews believe in hell. They just believe it's for the non-jews.

Honestly,a place with no jews sounds awesome,tho.

Goys-R-Us ago

When hell turns out to be heaven! Wait, what about nogs?

Merlynn ago

Well,since we'd already be dead,murder and assault would be meaningless. No material possessions means no theft. And that just leaves rape,if it's even possible depending on the form our immortal souls take,and since there's no chance of getting an STD or mud baby,that's pretty marginal.

CinderBiter ago

The force to push you to be moral would have to be the punishment from society, thus you adhere to subjective laws not objective or absolute.

Do they believe in a purgatory, or just a heaven? Are there any consequences?

Nosfewratsjews ago

Jews believe in Heaven, but not Hell. I'm suggesting this is why their behavior is so Jewey. No consequence for fucking people over.

Goys-R-Us ago

Hmmm, I think you're on to something. BTW I don't believe in hell either, other than a personal hell we all go through called suffering. That doesn't stop me from trying to treat people decently and not stealing from them. I think jews are so inbred, they've lost the DNA that creates virtue.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Now imagine a Religion that doesn't believe in consequence, and you've described the Jews and why they're a rather significant problem to humanity. They operate freely on Voat. Paid.

CinderBiter ago

something I’ve been caught up on, but don’t know why is “how would you act if A: your savior has come B: your savior has not.”

Nosfewratsjews ago

I do not believe Jews believe in any savior, only fucking people over in life and getting into Heaven for following the Talmud. The Talmud has code for Whites specifically to insult and exploit their good nature.

heygeorge ago

Smoky!

GreenSlug ago

Your question and points are flawed and it makes you look retarded. I'll try and break it down for you.

Good people dont need hell in order to have morals, requiring a fear of eternal punishment in order to have morals, makes you an immoral coward who would still go to hell if it existed because whats inside and your reasons for behaving the way you do still count, if you dont mean it it doesnt count in the end.

Good people are good for the sake of being good because its good, i know thats a very difficult concept for the less evolved of us, and its pretty hard to explain to people who simply dont grasp the concept. It's why we must as a species work towards breeding a better form of humanity, otherwise there is a constant battle between good people wanting freedom who can be trusted to be good, and retarded evil fuckin subhumans who only behave out of fear.

You can have morals without believing in hell. So your question is flawed.

Jews, whether or not they believe in hell being irrelevant, are genetically predisposed to not having morals, just like niggers, just like an unfortunately high percentage of humanity who require fear to be instilled in order to behave themselves.

So, your repeated insistence to push the point of them not believing in hell being the reason they can't have morals, makes you look like a subhuman retard who only believes that people only behave because they dont want to go to hell. Thats not true for everyone, even if it is true for you.

Perhaps you are just extremely bad at conveying the point you are trying to make? I dont know. But my conclusion is that you believe hell is a requirement for morals, and thats retarded subhuman thinking. Hell is not required for morals, and that fact does not mean that jews who dont believe in hell have morals.

CinderBiter ago

By saying it’s in your genes, you’re saying that there’s no way to ever change. If you instead say “there’s a way to fix it with fixing your beliefs,” you can start to argue the point.

good is good because it’s good

Doesn’t put you in the good persons shoes, it doesn’t tell you their why. People don’t just wake up to be saints

CinderBiter ago

By saying it’s in your genes, you’re saying that there’s no way to ever change. If you instead say “there’s a way to fix it with fixing your beliefs,” you can start to argue the point.

good is good because it’s good

Doesn’t put you in the good persons shoes, it doesn’t tell you why. The WHY is in what that person believes

Nosfewratsjews ago

Hey look, I found another Jew defending Jews.

GreenSlug ago

If you can point out one single instance where i defended jews id suggest you do so

Nosfewratsjews ago

You actually wasted time of your life typing up a long response I won't even read because you think my statement is about morality when it's about Jews having none. Why else would you distract so hard away from the topic at hand, unless you're just oblivious to what I'm saying? I don't need to read some autistic blob of text, so I won't.

GreenSlug ago

Cool story fag, go fuck yourself then. If you arnt interested in the conversation then dont start it

Nosfewratsjews ago

Haha. Reddit tier nonsense. Showerthoughts are showerthoughts. They aren't intended for conversation, nigger faggot Jew apologist.

Glipglup ago

The why did you start the thread and why are you responding you stupid fucking nigger?

GreenSlug ago

Right on kike. Dont forget to suck your moms dick tonight

Nosfewratsjews ago

Theat's literally the most Jewish response you could have possibly given.

GreenSlug ago

Your literally the most jewish a person could be

Nosfewratsjews ago

Can I please speak with an adult?

Nosferatjew ago

You suck at this.

Nosfewratsjews ago

You're my first fan!

Nosferatjew ago

Says the guy who named his account after mine...

Nosfewratsjews ago

That's nonsense. I thought of this all on my own and you just became my number one fan naturally because I'm better than you. I enjoy having fans!

Nosferatjew ago

Your sorry attempt at word-playing with your name is a testament to your poor intellenct and limited creativity.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Did I offend you, Jewboy?

Nosferatjew ago

Yes, your ditch level name making skills are offensive to my superior intellect. Your existence serves only as further proof that Idiocracy was no less prophetic than 1984.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Poor Jewboy.

Nosferatjew ago

Is that the best you've got?

Nosfewratsjews ago

Kvetch more, Jewboy.

Nosferatjew ago

So, yes, that is the best you've got. Pathetic.

xenoPsychologist ago

they kinda dont have any morals, which is observable.

Nosfewratsjews ago

So you've concluded the same thing I did.

gustodog ago

The father of the tribe of Israel, Jacob, claimed he wrestled with God and won. In connivance with his mother he exploited his brother's hunger, and his father's blindness, to gain his brother's birthright. From the very first Jew they are grifter mama's boys.

xenoPsychologist ago

probably.

Redcobra ago

I was under the impression that Jews thought Jesus was in hell being boiled in excrement.is hell just for the goy??

Nosfewratsjews ago

Jews don't believe in Hell.

Redcobra ago

So what about the boiling in excrament bit then

Nosfewratsjews ago

Tell me more..

Redcobra ago

Well if your into heresy,I’m pretty sure I saw a vidya on YouTube exposing the Talmud or Torah or some old Jew book.anyway for some reason I remember hearing that.ir would seem others have also heard this

CameraCode0 ago

But Jesus is still in hell, so the Jews are so petty and spiteful that they made it up just to punish people they don't like. So they believe it it, but also don't when it's inconvenient. Jews, what do you expect.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Why do so many on Voat defend this?

gustodog ago

Because it's true. Why do you pretend the Talmud doesn't say what the Talmud actually says?

calfag ago

If you need a Sky Daddy threatening you with eternal torture to live an ethical and moral life, you're in hell already. Sorry you live in fear, self identified peasant.

gustodog ago

Same logic: "If you need a justice system to maintain societal order, you're already in the third world."

Plavonica ago

Same logic: "If you need a justice system to maintain societal order, you're already in the third world."

The justice system actually exists though.

gustodog ago

Organized religion actually exists as well.

Nosfewratsjews ago

That wasn't the question. How can Jews claim to be Religious and not believe in Hell while still having any morals?

TheBuddha ago

If you're a 'moral' person out of fear, you're not really a moral person. You're just a coward.

You can be a good person without any belief in deities at all.

gustodog ago

You can be a good person without any belief in deities at all.

You can't have a moral society based on the idea that people will spontaneously choose to be moral.

CinderBiter ago

Morals don’t fall from the sky.

CinderBiter ago

Then for what reason would it be to act morally?

calfag ago

100%

Nosfewratsjews ago

That's all well and good, but that wasn't my question. Jews have a religion that doesn't believe in Hell, so how do they set their morals?

Are you Jewish?

drakesdoom2 ago

Could they and do they are different questions.

Clearly they don't set morals, or don't follow them. Actions speak louder then words and their actions prove they are the slimiest most cowardly people to have ever existed.

Believe or the details of it have no bearing.

Nosfewratsjews ago

So we agree.

drakesdoom2 ago

I don't know, reproval questions don't tell me what you believe.

Nosfewratsjews ago

I was agreeing with what you said, not declaring you agree with me.

drakesdoom2 ago

Then I think you misunderstand.

I would call my self religious, but I have no belief in hell. If you fail in life you cease to exist. If you succeed in life you are resurrected to fight against the demon horde in the final battle, standing side by side with the Emperor of Man.

Nosfewratsjews ago

What religion?

drakesdoom2 ago

Imperialis

Nosfewratsjews ago

Is that a fancy way of saying Jew?

drakesdoom2 ago

Nope.

It's a fancy way of saying you all or crazy, and everything you believe in is crazy. Nevertheless believing in something seems to be useful. So I'm going to believe in the Emperor of Man as described in Warhammer 40k.

Clearly we have been cut off and isolated in a warp storm for the last eight thousand years. Atlantis was the planetary capital when the storm started. Niggers are low level demons trying to pretend to be human.

GreenSlug ago

Hmmmm interesting. Is Trump an incarnation of the God Emperor then?

drakesdoom2 ago

No. This is not Terra. The Emperor is elsewhere. He has already ascended to the throne.

TheBuddha ago

No, I'm an atheist. I'm the only one on voat that has conclusively demonstrated they're not Jewish.

You don't need hell to have morals. Behaving out of fear isn't morals, it's cowardice.

CrudOMatic ago

I'm the only one on voat that has conclusively demonstrated they're not Jewish.

Can't prove a negative, atheist...

Climhazzard ago

You can prove a negative. There are no fruit trees in my backyard, and I know this because I looked. If you exhaust the possible contradictions, you can prove a negative.

God, a being beyond our comprehension that possibly exists in a place we possibly won't go to until we die, cannot be proven or unproven to exist (at least not by any people who are alive).

CinderBiter ago

Why are you moral then?

FullSemiAutomatic ago

A virtuous life is its own reward.

CinderBiter ago

Being virtuous, you would have to have a high moral responsibility, and you would believe that everything you do matters - intrinsically, you know there’s consequences for whatever you do, good or bad.

I know that you’ll never kill someone, but why? There’s some weight that holds you back... but what’s the origin? If it’s Christianity, you say, easy “you'll go to hell.” (Most) Atheists don’t kill people, but what is the belief that prevents them? “I’d feel bad.” Or I’d go to jail.

Although the Atheist is valid, I find the Christian belief to have more emotional pull. Back to the Jewish point, why wouldn’t it be important to create a reason to uphold morality?

bb22 ago

"The only one on voat that has conclusively demonstrated they're not Jewish."

Sounds awfully suspicious to me, moshe. Is that a foreskin between your teeth?

Btw Communists love atheism.

xigoi ago

Communists don't love atheism, they just hate religion because they want people to worship the leader (Lenin or Stalin or whatever) as a god.

bb22 ago

Exactly, so atheism is very useful to them. Christianity, or any religion that places a divine being (which translates into an ethical code of conduct) ABOVE the authority of the government, is a problem. Islam is an exception because in Islam, the government and religion are united.

xigoi ago

The fact that atheism is useful to communists doesn't mean that all or most atheists support communism.

Nosfewratsjews ago

So what guides the morals for Jews?

TheBuddha ago

The same thing as other people, presumably. I know, you want to live in a simple world, but they're not actually a hivemind of people who behave identically or anything so simple.

We had morals long before we had Jesus.

thewebofslime ago

Everyone I have ever known that has insisted that people need God to be moral has turned out to harbor dark secrets. Since they are incapable of being moral, they project their weakness onto everyone else. I am always very wary of anyone making the argument that people need God to be moral.

Nosfewratsjews ago

So you believe Jews have morals? What are they?

TheBuddha ago

I've known quite a few that seemed pretty moral to me, but I'm not a simpleton.

Nosfewratsjews ago

What would you describe as a Jewish moral trait?

TheBuddha ago

I wouldn't. I already told you, I'm not a simpleton.

Begone shill. We've seen your type around here before.

You're dismissed.

Nosfewratsjews ago

You seem unusually adamant about defending Jews and not answering any hard questions about them. You appear to be a Jew apologist.

Glipglup ago

Not everyone is a psychotic rapist with rage issues. Stop projecting your moral failures onto everyone else.

Nosfewratsjews ago

So you're a Jew?

Nosferatjew ago

So far, you're far from better at this than me ;)

Nosfewratsjews ago

Since we have opposite purposes, I'll take that as a compliment. I'm here to counter-balance what you do. =)

Nosferatjew ago

So, your purpose is to be a deceptive, unintelligent faggot? So far so good.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Spoken like a true Jew.

Nosferatjew ago

Spoken like a true moron.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Thanks for the compliment, Jewboy!

Nosferatjew ago

You banter like an insecure 5th grader. smh

Nosfewratsjews ago

Oh no, another offended Jew kvetching.

Nosferatjew ago

Your projection is staggeringly obvious.

Nosfewratsjews ago

Kvetch more, Jewboy!

Nosferatjew ago

There's that projection again...

Nosfewratsjews ago

Still kvetching!

Nosferatjew ago

Either you don't know what that word means, or you do, and you're projecting. I wonder which one it is....