lawyer4justice ago

A very useful way to setup a criminal case is to do a detailed timeline. Detailed in the sense of many entries, but not detailed in the description of each entry (it would be too much to take in). I like the time set up here, but then the organization goes off on a tangent to dates before and after. If they are relevant dates/times, let's put them in the correct order and with little to no opinion. LOVE the idea and start of this though.

Osmanthus ago

I have tried to verify all sorts of claims about Seth Rich, but most of them are speculation or made up on 4chan. I have found only 2 definitely true sources of information. One is comments made by his parents on video which state some facts about what the police told them. Two is some cagey comments by Julian Assange implying, but not confirming, that Seth Rich was the DNC leaker.

I also found a maybe true source of information, which is the police report. However, the source of the police report is not actually verifiable by me.

KimDotCom also says he has information about the case, but has not released any evidence whatsoever. But he has a proven history of crime (credit card fraud), is under indictment by the FBI, so is not a trustworthy source.

Every other claim I've seen about this case in this post, this forum, other forums, and news stories have no solid foundation. For example, people claim to know what hospital he died at: but that information is not known. Any other information about who his doctor and his condition at the hospital are hearsay, there is no public evidence.

A disturbing part is how many tv talking heads are making references to information that is sourced on 4chan.org by anonymous users. But 4chan is a roleplay site whos motto states "The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would taken anything posted here as fact".

Also a lot of people seem to be taking obvious Youtube LARPers at face value, even when they provide no evidence for what they say, and have made verifyably untrue claims.

The bottom line is that unless the DC police find something in their investigation, this whole thing adds up to absolutely nothing. Even if the conspiracy is true, but the DC police are in on it, nothing will ever come of it.

twistedmac11 ago

Joe Capone, the owner of the bar Seth Rich was at the night he was killed, was in the White House four days before Seth Rich's murder: https://fellowshipoftheminds.com/2017/05/20/proof-that-owner-of-bar-where-seth-rich-was-last-seen-alive-visited-white-house-4-days-earlier/

Where is the video footage? There were several surveillance cameras that could've shown his murder, but none of the videos have been released. DC police usually released video in unsolved cases so that people can help potentially identify suspects. https://70news.wordpress.com/2017/05/22/seth-rich-missing-surveilance-videos-investigation-botched-or-cover-up/

Also, DC police apparently never asked for surveillance video from Lou's City Bar, the bar where Seth Rich was last seen alive http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/05/police-never-asked-surveillance-video-bar-seth-rich-last-spotted-hours-murder/

The above link also mentions that DC police say he was the victim of a botched robbery, but his wallet, cell phone, necklace, etc were still on him when he was found. That's not a botched robbery, that's just murder.

Tony Podesta's ex-wife, Heather Podesta, is on the DC Police board http://bigleaguepolitics.com/seth-rich-case-john-podestas-ex-sister-law-d-c-police-foundation-board/

Someone edited Seth Rich's Reddit posts shortly after they were discovered: https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/someone-just-edited-seth-richs-reddit-posts-b5f185b0aab

If the Rich family was satisfied with the investigation, why would Seth's brother Aaron start a GoFundMe last month? https://www.gofundme.com/SethRich

Why did Donna Brazile show up in Omaha to "raise $200,000 to investigate" one week after the GoFundMe was started? (The GoFundMe is only at $31k so obviously that was a bust) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DBh9qZFUwAA5LNY?format=jpg&name=large

Donna Brazile called the Rich family to ask why they had hired a private investigator http://mobile.wnd.com/2017/05/bombshell-donna-brazile-probing-seth-rich-murder-says-private-eye/

Why would Assange and Wikileaks take an interest in Seth Rich's case if he wasn't involved with them? Wikileaks offered a $20k reward. http://www.theamericanmirror.com/flashback-wikileaks-offered-20000-reward-seth-rich-tips/

None of the links I posted are based on anonymous posts on 4chan, but still raise flags. You're right, there's a lot of speculation and not a lot of facts, bc the facts are being hidden. At the absolute minimum, Seth Rich's murder deserves a proper investigation, regardless of who murdered him.

tapsnapornap ago

Would you mind if I added that to this post, thats bloody fantastic mate.

twistedmac11 ago

Sure, no problem. Glad to help!

RatmanThomas ago

May 15th; FBI raided his apartment and seized his laptop within 3 days of his death. We find out that Rich transferred 44,000+ emails to Wikileaks. Podesta and HRC emails were uploaded on Wikileaks 12 days after Seth Rich’s death. An investigator in the murder inquiry died 3 days before the election.

This is not proven, correct?

Something doesn't add up with Seth Rich murder. Idk about email leaks, I think he was onto voter fraud personally..

twistedmac11 ago

Correct, I don't think anyone has confirmed with 100% certainty that he leaked to Wikileaks. However, considering Wikileaks and Assange's behavior regarding his death, it seems a little strange that they would take such an interest in someone who wasn't actually the leaker. That's just my take on it though; there is nothing definite yet.

I agree that something doesn't add up, and at the very least there are questions that need answering, regardless of if he was the leak or not. Voter fraud does seem to fit the bill though.

Verite1 ago

It's more than strange! It's A BIG FUCKING HINT

RatmanThomas ago

Yes. Remember Podesta fell for a phishing scam. I mean that could have been many people.

twistedmac11 ago

Yes, but you're thinking of the Podesta emails. The DNC email leak was a different email leak. The Podesta emails weren't released until October or November 2016; the emails Seth Rich supposedly leaked were released July 22, 2016, 12 days after his death.

RatmanThomas ago

No doubt. I know they are different, just pointing out maybe someone found out Hillary's email and started phishing a lot of people at DNC? I mean these are not the brightest IT people.

twistedmac11 ago

It's certainly possible. Like I said, there's nothing definite (yet, at least), but there are a lot of "coincidences" that make you wonder. Enough to warrant an actual police investigation that would reveal once and for all what was on his laptop & if he was the leaker, and who killed him.