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AnmanIndustries ago

I'm no good here as I do not have the time to manage such projects. I already have to manage several actual businesses. I am always available for advice or guidance, but that would be useless in this venture as you need dedicated people who are familiar with what has been going on. I am still happy to assist indirectly anyway.

My applicable possible skills are in resource management, people management, project management, risk management, implementation and maintenance. Which is not very useful from an advisor stance. I am fluent in VBA, PHP and mysql, but so is like, every one else and I have no time for coding anyway. Im more of a business man and farmer these days. Anyone need help with a goat farm? (my wife wants goats)

With all of this being said and all of your attempts, putt has to figure this out for himself as he is the only direct access stakeholder. He needs to pick from the people he wants from the community in order not to get anyone who will leave backdoors open or sabotage things. I'm mostly a lurker so I do not have much evidence for myself anyway.

Donbuster ago

My point is that we work independently of putt, get a semi working version of the stack, then approach putt with most of the heavy lifting having been done already, rather than telling him "While you're busy trying to keep the site alive, here's more work." Sure, he still has to audit the codebase (methinks atko might have to come back in for a bit of work on that one), but this way he doesn't have to touch it until the point at which his involvement is absolutely essential

AnmanIndustries ago

There is a lot more to it than just make a new code. You need places to test it. Live data to test. All the other systems that run with the site. A place to keep all these tests. A place to manage these various server states. Then you need a means to manage it all. You need to screen all the people who have access to all of this data. The server accounts, the financial accounts (controlling expenses as a possible tax offset, being an account holder for bills), the business side (licensing, hosting, law).

You can build a new code, only to find out we cant use it and all that time has been wasted due to many possible outliers that are not considered without all other variables.

Donbuster ago

Of course. I have a small virtualization server laying about, and a few terrabytes of networked storage. I'm aware that integration and migration IS a pretty rough challenge, which is why such things won't happen if putt goes it alone, meanwhile hosting costs will continue to balloon. If we can get a functional stack for the site running on the test servers, we are then in a position to talk to putt and figure out what needs to be done to get the environment we build to be migration ready. Looking at other estimates around the web, this could SEVERELY decrease voats costs, but its too gargantuan a task for putt, especially when we're running on fumes financially. Plus, at the end, the site will be better for it. The site is very different than it was when atko laid down the first lines for whoaverse...

AnmanIndustries ago

I agree with you really. But with all of that, Putt still has to do the hard part without any "staff". That is, implementation, testing and changeover. If he organises this effort first, directly, then it will be way smooth.

Donbuster ago

I have already pm'd him and replied to a comment on the angel post informing him of this and asking for as many details as he can get to us. Weather he responds, or how long it takes him, is another matter

AnmanIndustries ago

Alright. Good luck with your efforts. Feel free to drag me in if you need another perspective. For now I can only really offer the occasional small cash investment.

Donbuster ago

if you want to keep an eye on us, feel free to join the slack team

https://voatrewrite.slack.com/shared_invite/MTg0Mjg2MzQzNTg0LTE0OTUwNzc4NjMtZDcwZmNiODU5Yg