Nice edit to parent comment so you may include yourself to your list of "disingenuous" accounts. Lol.
Further example of Type 4. It doesn't matter to this person what my response may be, because ultimately they don't care if their accusation is true or not because it's only made to attempt to incite me into replying to defend myself.
It's quite simple. There is absolutely zero point in responding to the accusation of a Type 4 because they don't actually care and are just pandering to an audience (usually, of themselves, ironically) and their only objective is to engage a genuine person and to troll them.
Don't recognize their bait as credible by simply ignoring it. Defending it is a waste of time. Classic example of a Type 4 in-action. It will just keep responding with no other objective but to try and argue, ostensibly under other pretenses (such as comedy, satire, etc)
This is an example of a Type 4 troll disingenuous behavior. The most interesting thing is if you simply ignore these people, their tactics lose all meaning so they move on to targets that respond to their behavior.
Easiest solution is to pretend they don't exist. Some, like WhiteRonin, sperg out and get frustrated by this. Others continue to talk to themselves for a while (often using multiple socks, amusingly), before eventually giving up.
Realistically there are 4 types of disingenuous accounts:
Sponsored brigades ("I do this for money" because corporate espionage, viral Marketing, competition, etc)
Ideological groups (religion, ethno-national, geopolitical, terrorist, etc)
Government (alphabets, Government-embedded Corporations, NGO's, misc. other Government welfare employees)
Just plain room-temperature IQ NPC's (tinfoil, insane, drung-addled, and/or just plain stupid)
These have been listed in a specific order, for specific technical reasons. Dial_Indicator just seems to be a Type 4, for example. Some, like Zyklon_B or WhiteRonin for example, fall into multiple categories and they can be classified as "mercenaries".
I done far more on voat than you could ever imagine virge. Dial was an alt, along with army of 13.... ever look into their posting histories?
I've deleted, so many alts... Had so many alts be downvoated to death I simply cannot remember them all
here virge, You fall into suspicious account who wiped their entire posting history and you some authority on judging people. Pretty lame if you ask me.
I done far more on voat than you could ever image virge. Dial was an alt, along with army of 13.... ever look into their posting histories?
I've deleted, so many alts... Had so many alts be downvoated to death I simply cannot remember them all
here virge, You fall into suspicious account who wiped their entire posting history and you some authority on judging people. Pretty lame if you ask me.
Do you think these people are completely disingenuous? I don't like to think that way about zyklon, I believe he is honest in his own way. But I know he is a mercenary.
Do you think these people are completely disingenuous?
No. Nobody appears to be completely disingenuous. Even the 99%ers like Zylkon_B mix in some genuine content, mostly as filler I'd imagine.
I also think genuine people can shift into any combination of the five disingenuous at will.
Ultimately what matters is the simple fact that genuine conversation is oil to water to any disingenuous behavior. They simply don't mix, for obvious reasons - genuine behavior is looking for genuine participation, where disingenuous behavior is prone to feeding off tricking or aggitating genuine behavior.
Fascinating stuff, how do you come upon this information? I want to be part of some "good guy information corps" but I don't even know if they exist. If they don't, we should make one. Like a not fake q movement.
Thank you very much for sharing with me! If I'm guilty of any disingenuousness it is because I am in category #5. But unfortunately I lack a lot of background knowledge. I don't even have a college degree.
drstrangegov ago
You talking to me? I have one account I use.
virge ago
Further example of Type 4. It doesn't matter to this person what my response may be, because ultimately they don't care if their accusation is true or not because it's only made to attempt to incite me into replying to defend myself.
It's quite simple. There is absolutely zero point in responding to the accusation of a Type 4 because they don't actually care and are just pandering to an audience (usually, of themselves, ironically) and their only objective is to engage a genuine person and to troll them.
Don't recognize their bait as credible by simply ignoring it. Defending it is a waste of time. Classic example of a Type 4 in-action. It will just keep responding with no other objective but to try and argue, ostensibly under other pretenses (such as comedy, satire, etc)
albatrosv15 ago
Thank you for this educational class.
(probably copy-pasta, but hey, still worth it)
virge ago
No copy pasta, all unique work.
virge ago
This is an example of a Type 4 troll disingenuous behavior. The most interesting thing is if you simply ignore these people, their tactics lose all meaning so they move on to targets that respond to their behavior.
Easiest solution is to pretend they don't exist. Some, like WhiteRonin, sperg out and get frustrated by this. Others continue to talk to themselves for a while (often using multiple socks, amusingly), before eventually giving up.
Ignore and they are harmless.
drstrangegov ago
Great advice, thank you!
virge ago
Realistically there are 4 types of disingenuous accounts:
These have been listed in a specific order, for specific technical reasons. Dial_Indicator just seems to be a Type 4, for example. Some, like Zyklon_B or WhiteRonin for example, fall into multiple categories and they can be classified as "mercenaries".
zxcvzxcvzx ago
I done far more on voat than you could ever imagine virge. Dial was an alt, along with army of 13.... ever look into their posting histories?
I've deleted, so many alts... Had so many alts be downvoated to death I simply cannot remember them all
here virge, You fall into suspicious account who wiped their entire posting history and you some authority on judging people. Pretty lame if you ask me.
-dial
zxcvzxcvzx ago
I done far more on voat than you could ever image virge. Dial was an alt, along with army of 13.... ever look into their posting histories?
I've deleted, so many alts... Had so many alts be downvoated to death I simply cannot remember them all
here virge, You fall into suspicious account who wiped their entire posting history and you some authority on judging people. Pretty lame if you ask me.
-dial
drstrangegov ago
Do you think these people are completely disingenuous? I don't like to think that way about zyklon, I believe he is honest in his own way. But I know he is a mercenary.
virge ago
No. Nobody appears to be completely disingenuous. Even the 99%ers like Zylkon_B mix in some genuine content, mostly as filler I'd imagine.
I also think genuine people can shift into any combination of the five disingenuous at will.
Ultimately what matters is the simple fact that genuine conversation is oil to water to any disingenuous behavior. They simply don't mix, for obvious reasons - genuine behavior is looking for genuine participation, where disingenuous behavior is prone to feeding off tricking or aggitating genuine behavior.
drstrangegov ago
Fascinating stuff, how do you come upon this information? I want to be part of some "good guy information corps" but I don't even know if they exist. If they don't, we should make one. Like a not fake q movement.
virge ago
I've spent years observing it. I've used Type 2, Type 4, and Type 5 behavior in my own past posting to validate the hypothesis.
This is all just my opinion, based on readily available data. You're welcome to poke holes in it if you'd like, I don't pretend it's infallible.
drstrangegov ago
Thank you very much for sharing with me! If I'm guilty of any disingenuousness it is because I am in category #5. But unfortunately I lack a lot of background knowledge. I don't even have a college degree.
PuttitoutIsGone ago
@crensch is an enemy of free speech, which makes her an enemy of the United States. Fuck GA.
Warmoose76 ago
Also they are against freedom of expresion which is against America. How am I supposed to express myself if they censor my BBW tranny posts?