sguevar ago

I just have a simple 2 part question here and maybe you can illuminate me here:

Let's argue that you are right. Q is real. Let's say that this is a group of people that work against the deep state. Remember also that I have said in the past that Trump was the last breath of air before all goes south. That I thought that his support to the earthly Israel is just a way to calm the nerves of the synagogue of Satan.

Why is it that most of the Q followers believe in supporting Israel? Wouldn't supporting Israel, as Trump has done for the past 3 years and the obvious support from the followers of this movement, be a reason why you would distrust this movement and the credibility of their so called quest?

Crensch ago

Why is it that most of the Q followers believe in supporting Israel?

Still programmed into them and not actively deprogrammed by Q so far. Jews pushed hard for republi/conservicucks to embrace "Judeo-Christian values" and whatever.

Wouldn't supporting Israel, as Trump has done for the past 3 years and the obvious support from the followers of this movement, be a reason why you would distrust this movement and the credibility of their so called quest?

That's why those that know are still preparing for the worst. Do you throw out the baby with the bathwater because it isn't 100% clean?

sguevar ago

Do you throw out the baby with the bathwater because it isn't 100% clean?

Bad analogy. But I get your point.

However in your position I would be more active in trying to show the truth to them. Not use them at convenience of your movement. This is why I don't trust Q and I certainly think It maybe a diversion from the synagogue of Satan to achieve what they want. But hey it's just my position.

If I had the chance to share the truth of the cabal, I would. If I was in a position to do it, I would. You have both. Why don't you use it?

Diggernicks ago

Can you two get a room and circle jerk in private?

CheeseboogerHimself ago

lol You sound like Ben Shapiro or that other kike Owen Benjamin. So when you gonna share srayzie tit and gaping pussy pics?? That's all we want. Nothing else. No more of your uppity horseshit posts that nobody cares about. fucking ZIONIST TRAITOR. @zyklon_b bahahahaha

sinclair ago

Q: Disinformation is necessary.

Also Q: Dark to light!

It's a load of corporate bullshit, lots of forward looking statements.

It's no different than the Left. It's lies, just this time, it's Q telling them.

Crensch ago

Q: Disinformation is necessary.

How would you do it?

Also Q: Dark to light!

Do the ends justify the means? I've started to think so lately.

It's a load of corporate bullshit, lots of forward looking statements.

Which corporation?

It's no different than the Left. It's lies, just this time, it's Q telling them.

And a lot of truth. Actually, probably more truth than any MSM "news" media, and most of the alternative ones. How do you delineate that?

sinclair ago

I don't have to delineate it. Q is basically jerking everyone off. "Oh, it's coming... it's coming..." Sure. It's coming. When Q feels like it. Q serves itself, not the American public.

Crensch ago

I don't have to delineate it. Q is basically jerking everyone off. "Oh, it's coming... it's coming..." Sure. It's coming. When Q feels like it. Q serves itself, not the American public.

So you're saying you'd telegraph your moves to your enemy in order to inform the citizens?

Sounds effective.

Edit: Further, it's information control. Just DECLAS and let the American public decide.

And that galvanizes the public to do something about it, how?

Let the public be in control at their level. But no, Q must decide when and where. Control. It's about control. No different from the Left in this regard.

The old, "Take the high road!" mantra? You can't win like that. The idea and philosophy is a Jewish trick to keep whites from doing what is necessary to win.

Q doesn't trust the public unless Q can shape the narrative they hear and see, and protect Q's interests.

Would you? Given what the public votes for and thinks about things? How insanely upside-down most people are in their beliefs about the fundamental nature of reality?

Q does not care about "truth",

Even with all the feints, Q is still more accurate than any news source I know of.

Q cares about making sure the American public doesn't see Q as an enemy, when we all know the military industrial complex is just as guilty of crimes as the elites.

Why are you linking the two, here? Do you think Q is the military industrial complex?

They're no more heroes than the people they work for, sometimes even worse.

Quite the claim. Anything to support it?

This amounts to public grooming. We're not children. And we deserve real transparency. Not bullshit.

Mass awakening to all kinds of shit for many normies out there. Accurate reporting of events before they happen. Massive movement of the pendulum for normies against dems, illegals, MSM, and even israel and Jews.

You'd counter a century+ old psychological psyop on the population by just releasing a lot of info? Kek. Who would care, read it, or believe it? How few would give a shit?

sinclair ago

Here's my point by point break down. Sorry I didn't have much time to respond before, but I consider this important because in any case, Patriot, you cannot trust your government too much.

So you're saying you'd telegraph your moves to your enemy in order to inform the citizens? Sounds effective.

"Q: It's coming, it's coming..." is exactly telegraphing; fucking Paul Revere style. Not effective. You wouldn't say shit. This is to control YOU, the already fairly wise masses. It keeps you quiet, so you don't blow your load all over people, on what you know, or think you know. They confirm what you can, and cannot say. If they were serious, they'd pull a Jesus, and come as a "thief in the night", and people would just be disappearing and cover it with accidents. Not telegraph what's coming. If you think that causes panic in your presumed opposition, that just gives their cooler heads time to build a case to prevail, or find people lower rank and file to take the bullet.

And that galvanizes the public to do something about it, how?

Who said anything about galvanizing the public? Not everyone wants that. The public just wants the truth, so it can decide how best to proceed.

The old, "Take the high road!" mantra? You can't win like that. The idea and philosophy is a Jewish trick to keep whites from doing what is necessary to win.

Sun Tzu - (9)11. "All armies prefer high ground to low." Yes. Take the high road. Cause it's the correct, strategic path. That is civil. From there, you can lay volley after volley on your enemy.

Also, Patience wins the day. [03.21] (4) "One who is prepared and waits for the unprepared will be victorious;"

Fuck, Sun Tzu talked about it a lot. You've read the Art of War, does this seem like the art of war to you? Sure there's elements, but something is very off.

Would you? Given what the public votes for and thinks about things? How insanely upside-down most people are in their beliefs about the fundamental nature of reality?

It's not up to me. It should be up to the civil public, if we're still a civilization. And I'm certain there are plenty of parents, grandparents and other adults that can see reality for what it is. You see a small section of what people say through social media. Pew is still a good source. They're a very vocal minority. Q might like you to think that most people are dumb, but that fact is that most people just want to get through their day. They don't have time for politics till they have to. Which is now.

Even with all the feints, Q is still more accurate than any news source I know of.

Except for Wikileaks. Which only reports and disseminates facts. They tell you what THEY said. They don't provide a narrative. They let you connect the dots form the information presented. No present the information in some kind of guidance to be "decoded". You can read anything into anything with enough effort. "Future proves the past"? I thought those that don't remember the past are doomed to repeat the future, what happened to that? Stop scrying, and start thinking. You're being led around by the nose, to distract you from wanting a full declass now. Patriots don't fear the truth. And they don't fear immediate action. Minute Men, remember?

Why are you linking the two, here? Do you think Q is the military industrial complex?

I didn't like the two together. The narrative is that Q is MI, so they can't directly tell us what will happen and we have to decode it. That's the story I got, is Q a mystery person to you?

Quite the claim. Anything to support it?

500,000 Iraqi Children and Albright said, "it was worth it". Countless hours of footage of Americans firing on civilians in the middle east (which is what Manning got in trouble for whistle blowing) It's there. They admit it. Someone has to pull the trigger. Why do you think so many vets kill themselves? Ever ask yourself why one kills themselves every 65 seconds? Maybe overwhelming shame and guilt for what they did for this country? Yah, plenty of evidence to support it. The American public can forgive them. They're our kids. They can't forgive themselves, or tell anyone cause of shit like Q.

Mass awakening to all kinds of shit for many normies out there. Accurate reporting of events before they happen. Massive movement of the pendulum for normies against dems, illegals, MSM, and even israel and Jews.

You mean the "Overton Window"? Who is Q to decide? An all knowing, omnipotent God? There's several reasons to pick "Q" as a moniker. First, protocol, second pop culture. That's been predetermined. I served in the US Military, too. Hell, I was born into it, it's my family. I'm well aware of the games they play with the public at large, and you should know they consider the civil public a threat to their well being. You're all scammers according to MIC. Just sayin. ;-)

You'd counter a century+ old psychological psyop on the population by just releasing a lot of info? Kek. Who would care, read it, or believe it? How few would give a shit?

Yah, release the hounds. Let the public sort it out. They deserve answers, not mind games.

This is a survival game. I hope you're right, but something here, is very off to me. They know it's about survival at this point, too. Our civilization is collapsing, and the military industrial complex will survive by any means necessary. Including screwing up the heads of it's own people, if it meets their needs.

Crensch ago

I'm a bit tired tonight to parse all of this; I'll get to it tomorrow.

I did, however, want to address this:

Sun Tzu - (9)11. "All armies prefer high ground to low." Yes. Take the high road. Cause it's the correct, strategic path. That is civil. From there, you can lay volley after volley on your enemy.

I can't tell if you're being dishonest, or ignorant.

"Taking the high road" is a (((moralistic))) bludgeon used to get whites to not do anything it takes to win. "Don't sink to their level, it's not worth it" and "don't lower yourself, they'll beat you with experience" or whatever that stupid platitude is. It's telling whites to just take it, or let it go, or not pull a gun when the other guy does.

Your comment here about Sun Tzu is a strawman of my argument. I'll have you correct it before I engage further. Dishonesty has no place in polite conversation, and ignorance needs to be remedied before the playing field is level.

sinclair ago

That's where you're not reading me, Guapo. It means not losing your shit and making emotional arguments. Being more calculated and not telegraphing your moves. Go to where the enemy cannot see you, and fire your shots. At this point the battle is words, not actual arrows. YOU see it in terms of (((moralistic))), a civil strategist sees it as an opportunity to fool the enemy into believing they have won, meanwhile you have laid plans to siege from on high. Art of War applies to all forms of warfare, be it Lawfare, Socialfare, or whatever. That's why you take the high road. Not to give up, but to take a better position that is literally above your enemy, while you pelt them with your ammo unabated. Moral high ground is key to political victory. Trump started with it because he could show how corrupt the Dems were. Dems have lost it in many issues, that's why they're losing support so badly. We're on the same side, just make sure you're seeing the government for what it really is. I voted for that guy in the primary. I let America decide it's fate in the general. We'll see how it all pans out. But Q is not your friend. Q is your controller.

Crensch ago

That's where you're not reading me, Guapo. It means not losing your shit and making emotional arguments. Being more calculated and not telegraphing your moves.

Horseshit. It's always been what I just said it was.

sinclair ago

I disagree. I think that's personal to your experience. In my experience, taking the high road is a maneuver. I am reading from you, based on what you said about it being a (((moralistic))) bludgeon, that you maybe have witnessed, or personally experienced taking it in the ass for so long, you have some unresolved rage on the topic. You have to change your mind set to maneuvering. That's what it's about. Art of War. Maneuvering. Positioning. Strategy. You play it.

Crensch ago

It has never once meant anything in a tactical manner in colloquial speech, and how does what I responded to with it make any sense that way?

Let the public be in control at their level. But no, Q must decide when and where. Control. It's about control. No different from the Left in this regard.

Those are your words. I responded mocking your "high road" rhetoric. Meaning you expect Q to be moralistic in nature and not get his hands dirty with tactics of the opposition.

that you maybe have witnessed, or personally experienced taking it in the ass for so long

How stupid do you think I am?

sinclair ago

How stupid do you think I am?

I don't think you're stupid. I think that you're not seeing the forest for the trees. You're being lead. Where it leads? Trust the Plan™.

I responded mocking your "high road" rhetoric.

Is that very civil?

I'm not emotionally vested here. Who is in office doesn't matter to me anymore. I called for the Trump option because the so called "progressives" became very unfair and downright mean, particularly to Whites. I see Q for what it is, a Control on the "awakened". Why? Motive is unclear. Evidence suggests love of country, however, other evidence, to me suggests personal revenge (which is fine by me in this case). Q is here, among other things, to manufacture consent from the "enlightened" public, before shit goes down. To make all those actions "moral". What is "moral"? Is it what the masses believes to be right, and fair? That's how the game is played. If they didn't have that, there would be open rebellion.

sinclair ago

The truth is, transparency is selective. Q is no more important than Wikileaks. The difference is who controls your narrative.

Crensch ago

The truth is, transparency is selective.

Did you have a point?

Q is no more important than Wikileaks.

Is this an argument, or does it somehow support your position?

The difference is who controls your narrative.

Did this comment make sense to anyone?

sinclair ago

I made a more full response to you above. Thanks.

Diggernicks ago

Responding twice to your own thread no one cares about?

Mrpingpong is appalled by your faggotry.

Crensch ago

If you mattered, I would be hurt.

Diggernicks ago

You responded, thats hurt enough for me.

Crensch ago

You'd poke a retard, too, if you could get away with it.

Crensch ago

Story time!

@CheeseboggersGhost posted on /v/GreatAwakening, "Q ANON EXPOSED!!!! CONFIRMED LARP!!!".

He linked to a 2 hour long video with a MASSIVE 728 views. I asked him for timestamps.

Instead of just giving me timestamps he starts yammering about some horseshit nobody cares about, then gave some timestamps.

Those timestamps were absurd. Gassed.

CheeseboogerHimself ago

You wish you zionist faggot incel

Crensch ago

Notice how I have links to your shame, and you have nothing but personal attacks on me and others.

Kek. <----

Kek.

Kek.

CheeseboogerHimself ago

You act like you have credibility left, Crunch. KEK

You shill as a Nazi to get followers then lead them to zionism. The ones who wont fall for your shit you brigade with srayzie, shizy, etc, and many alts. Classic paid jew shill. Now you are a mod in the biggest zionist pro-israel sub on Voat. KEK

Most people here don't have much left to say to you except SHOW SRAYZIES TITS OR GTFO! ah ah ah

You're a incel clown shoe. People laugh behind your back. Many here now know you are a paid zionist shill Qoomertard. Best kek I have ever witnessed. If ANYONE should hide in shame its you, Ben Shapiro. "Logos" ah ah ah Srayzie was even sending tit pics to @Kevdude. You thought you were special and the only one hahahaha

Q is a zionist group. That's all anyone needs to know.

@zyklon_b

zyklon_b ago

crensch will vause her kods dead

HollaKost ago

Zyklon_b you just mad cause you think everyone got pics of Srayzie and you didn't. I'd be pissed too if this is what I had to look at all day and fuck once I got high enough to ne able to masturbate in this thing

http://magaimg.net/img/83om.jpg

Alcoholics_R_Us ago

Imagine spending all fucking day online instead of working for a living like the rest of us. How do you feel about your taxes keeping these losers alive?

Crensch ago

If I have no credibility left, it must really hurt that I destroyed you, and you never really recovered. How awful it must feel to have someone with zero credibility get to taunt and laugh at you for failing like a Jew so hard that you tucked your tail and left the website?

CheeseboogerHimself ago

Srayzie's tits or GTFO!

zyklon_b ago

KILL SHIZY AKA SRAYZIE LIL ONES

Crensch ago

Maybe someone else will have better luck? Please bring lots of logos. I won't be pulling punches.

CheeseboogerHimself ago

will you be pulling tit pics, incel ziotard?