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Many suppose this supports Paul. However, it speaks several negatives:

1. This speaks of "brother" Paul, not "apostle Paul" in verse 15.

2. In the same verse, it says Paul spoke with "wisdom given unto him," not inspiration.

Thus, in the early church, when Paul is quoted, it is not "the Bible" tells us, or "Paul by the Holy Spirit said," as we incessantly are told today. Instead, in the early church, for example, Origen speaks differently that instead we "hear" Paul who "proclaims these things 'according to the wisdom given him in ministry'...," quoting Second Peter. This is Origen writing around 200 AD found in Homolies on Genesis & Exodus, Book 8 (Editor Ronald Heine, 2010) page. 316.

What does Speaking by Wisdom Signify?

In the concept of holy scripture in the Bible that cannot be denied without making yourself an apostate, saying someone spoke by wisdom is the same as saying they did not speak by inspiration direct from God. You could not accept word-for-word what they were saying as true. In fact, in Jeremiah 34:11-22, we learn that unless one says "Yahweh says," we were to reject even what a prophet like Jeremiah commands. God commends the Rechabites for refusing to obey Jeremiah's commands that lacked any direct quote from God Yahweh.

What About Jesus? Why Must We Obey Him?

The only exception in the Bible is when God promised "the Prophet" would come, and we must "listen to" him, or otherwise be held "accountable" to Yahweh for disobeying "the Prophet." This is in Deuteronomy 18:15-19. Apostle Peter quotes this passage in Acts 3:22-23 in his second evangelical sermon, and says Jesus was "the prophet" of Deuteronomy 18. Peter says this means -- and we quote --God commands "you listen to everything [the Prophet] tells you." End of quote. See Peter 3:22-23, in particular verse 23.

How would we know Jesus is The Prophet?

Well, Yahweh twice speaks over Jesus from Heaven in front of multiple witnesses calling him his "beloved Son" and says "listen to him." See for example Mark 9:7.

This "listen to him" statement by Yahweh over Jesus is a direct quote from Deuteronomy 18:15-19. This repeats the unique trait of The Prophet -- He alone speaks with constant inspiration because of this prior mark on Him directly upon him from Yahweh.

Who Else Says Paul Spoke Only with Wisdom?

Likewise, Polycarp (born 69 AD, died 155 AD) talks about Paul only speaking with wisdom.

Who is Polycarp?

He was an early enthusiastic supporter of Paul's doctrines. However, listen in this famous quote whether inspiration or wisdom is the source of Paul's words - quote:

"For neither am I, nor is any other like unto me, able to follow the wisdom of the blessed and glorious Paul, who when he came among you taught face to face with the men of that day the word which concerneth truth carefully and surely; who also, when he was absent, wrote a letter unto you, into the which if ye look diligently, ye shall be able to be builded up unto the faith given to you...."

This quote is in the work by Joseph Barber Lightfoot and J. R. Harmer entitled The Apostolic Fathers (London: Macmillan and Co., 1891) at page 178.

The same authors quote Polycarp as continuing, and saying that - we quote - "when absent, [Paul] wrote letters to them," and "if they studied them, they would find edification." See page 593 of their 1885 edition.

Edification is what you can get from C.S. Lewis. Edification implies the person is not speaking by inspiration, but solely by wisdom.

Please also note that Polycarp in the quote above says - we quote again -- that "he cannot follow" the wisdom of Paul.

What explains this deficiency in Paul's writings?

The answer comes from our third observation about this passage of 2 Peter 3:14-17.

3. In the KJV, it says Paul speaks sometimes things "hard to be understood." This is more correctly translated as that Paul speaks some "nonsensical" things or things "destructive of good sense." The Greek word is "dysnoetas." Let's see why by examining that word carefullly.

In Greek, dysnoetas has two parts -- the prefix DYS and the word NOETAS. To determine its meaning, you simply have to know the meaning and purpose of each part.

Liddell & Scott - renown and premier authors of a Greek dictionary say Dys as a prefix means - we quote --

"always [understood] with the notion of hard, bad, unlucky, etc., ... destroying the good sense of a word, or increasing its bad sense."

This quote can be found at page 336, column two, top third, in their 1883 dictionary at this page link .

Hence, we know at the outset that such a word as dysnoetas is intended in a pejorative sense. It has a negative uncomplimentary sense. Think for example of the word utopia - an ideal place, versus a dystopia -- a nightmarish world where one endures great suffering or injustice, typically such as a totalitarian world. See the definition at this link.

Then the conjoined word is NOETAS. It means SENSIBLE. See Francis E. Peter, Greek Philosophical Terms: An Historical Lexicon(1967) at 130 ("logoi noeton" = "sensible things"); 128 (noeton = "intelligible") Cf. NOETA = thought.

Hence, DYSNOETAS means "nonsensical thoughts" or "unintelligible thoughts" to reflect that the writer lacks any sense to what he or she is writing.

What does that mean?

The problem is that writer's words simply don't make any good sense. They defy common sense.

Thus, it is clear the problem begins with Paul's fault by the word DYSNOETAS used by Apostle Peter, according to its traditional authorship. Some of Paul's writings -- not all -- are said to suffer from DYSNOETAS.

What does that convey in English?

Well, the English translation as "difficult to understand" is ambiguous. Had Peter spoke in English, such words could support that the fault is solely our own, namely that we are not wise enough or knowledgeable enough to understand. But that is not what the Greek is conveying. In the Greek, if the reader misunderstands, the mistake began at least initially with the writer. The writer wrote in words destructive of good sense; they make bad sense; etc.

Hence, Second Peter is a criticism of Paul's content - his writing is sometimes lacking sense, with grave consequences -- a "lawless" life (2 Peter 3:17 NIV "lawless") and personal "destruction" of Paul's reader who gullibly reads what Paul writes. (More on that in a moment.) The English translation of "difficult to understand" is therefore incomplete, and potentially misleading. It lacks the full weight of the intended meaning of the word DYSNOETAS.

This is underscored because then Second Peter identifies a fault in the readers who do not know better when reading Paul. Second Peter then blames the readers in part for having an unstable ignorance. In other words, they are gullible, credulous, and not questioning what Paul means on the surface, etc. This proves again the meaning DYSNOETAS is Paul's fault. The reader's fault is they they are not "steadfast" in Christ's words, and fall into "lawlessness" -- the NIV correctly rendering "lawless" in 2 Pete 3:17 as what Peter says is where gullible readers end up, on the road to "destruction" -- again Peter's word, not mine.

Of what were the readers ignorant and unstable about in particular?

In context, Peter likely means they are ignorant of Jesus' words about righteous law-abiding living where confessing Jesus as Lord is not enough. Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 say many will call him "Lord, Lord" -- but work "anomia" - a Greek word meaning law-lessness / negator of the Law, but Jesus will say "I never knew you" -- in obvious disgust. Just like Jesus says in Revelation 3:1-3 that He will "spew out" of his mouth those Christians who have had "lukewarm works" at the judgment. For more on Anomia, see this link. For more on Revelation 3:1-3, see this link.

By contrast, Paul in Romans directly contradicts Jesus, saying - we quote -- you "shall be saved" if you "confess him as Lord with your mouth, and believing...God raised him from the dead." Paul clearly says that alone - quote - "shall save you." (Romans 10:9 NKJV) However, this makes no sense. It can only prevail by the ignorance of the reader not knowing Jesus says the opposite. Jesus says calling Him Lord, Lord, but working lawlessness -- such as trusting faith alone in facts about Jesus' resurrection and thereby wallowing in lukewarm works -- is the direct road to rejection, not salvation.

Second Peter then correctly says this error of the reader of Paul leads them to accept Paul's sometimes nonsensical words, and adopt "lawless" principles. Then Second Peter says this is "to their own destruction," and thereby lose their "steadfastness" in Christ. (2 Peter 3:17-18.)

However, had they not been ignorant, such as being familiar with passages like Matthew 7:21-23, they would not have been misled into a life of "lawless" principles, and "destruction" in how they understood Paul's sometimes DSYNOETAS.

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What explains this deficiency in Paul's writings?

The answer comes from our third observation about this passage of 2 Peter 3:14-17.

3. In the KJV, it says Paul speaks sometimes things "hard to be understood." This is more correctly translated as that Paul speaks some "nonsensical" things or things "destructive of good sense." The Greek word is "dysnoetas." Let's see why by examining that word carefullly.

In Greek, dysnoetas has two parts -- the prefix DYS and the word NOETAS. To determine its meaning, you simply have to know the meaning and purpose of each part.

Liddell & Scott - renown and premier authors of a Greek dictionary say Dys as a prefix means - we quote --

"always [understood] with the notion of hard, bad, unlucky, etc., ... destroying the good sense of a word, or increasing its bad sense."

This quote can be found at page 336, column two, top third, in their 1883 dictionary at this page link .

Hence, we know at the outset that such a word as dysnoetas is intended in a pejorative sense. It has a negative uncomplimentary sense. Think for example of the word utopia - an ideal place, versus a dystopia -- a nightmarish world where one endures great suffering or injustice, typically such as a totalitarian world. See the definition at this link.

Then the conjoined word is NOETAS. It means SENSIBLE. See Francis E. Peter, Greek Philosophical Terms: An Historical Lexicon(1967) at 130 ("logoi noeton" = "sensible things"); 128 (noeton = "intelligible") Cf. NOETA = thought.

Hence, DYSNOETAS means "nonsensical thoughts" or "unintelligible thoughts" to reflect that the writer lacks any sense to what he or she is writing.

What does that mean?

The problem is that writer's words simply don't make any good sense. They defy common sense.

Thus, it is clear the problem begins with Paul's fault by the word DYSNOETAS used by Apostle Peter, according to its traditional authorship. Some of Paul's writings -- not all -- are said to suffer from DYSNOETAS.

What does that convey in English?

Well, the English translation as "difficult to understand" is ambiguous. Had Peter spoke in English, such words could support that the fault is solely our own, namely that we are not wise enough or knowledgeable enough to understand. But that is not what the Greek is conveying. In the Greek, if the reader misunderstands, the mistake began at least initially with the writer. The writer wrote in words destructive of good sense; they make bad sense; etc.

Hence, Second Peter is a criticism of Paul's content - his writing is sometimes lacking sense, with grave consequences -- a "lawless" life (2 Peter 3:17 NIV "lawless") and personal "destruction" of Paul's reader who gullibly reads what Paul writes. (More on that in a moment.) The English translation of "difficult to understand" is therefore incomplete, and potentially misleading. It lacks the full weight of the intended meaning of the word DYSNOETAS.

This is underscored because then Second Peter identifies a fault in the readers who do not know better when reading Paul. Second Peter then blames the readers in part for having an unstable ignorance. In other words, they are gullible, credulous, and not questioning what Paul means on the surface, etc. This proves again the meaning DYSNOETAS is Paul's fault. The reader's fault is they they are not "steadfast" in Christ's words, and fall into "lawlessness" -- the NIV correctly rendering "lawless" in 2 Pete 3:17 as what Peter says is where gullible readers end up, on the road to "destruction" -- again Peter's word, not mine.

Of what were the readers ignorant and unstable about in particular?

In context, Peter likely means they are ignorant of Jesus' words about righteous law-abiding living where confessing Jesus as Lord is not enough. Jesus in Matthew 7:21-23 say many will call him "Lord, Lord" -- but work "anomia" - a Greek word meaning law-lessness / negator of the Law, but Jesus will say "I never knew you" -- in obvious disgust. Just like Jesus says in Revelation 3:1-3 that He will "spew out" of his mouth those Christians who have had "lukewarm works" at the judgment. For more on Anomia, see this link. For more on Revelation 3:1-3, see this link.

By contrast, Paul in Romans directly contradicts Jesus, saying - we quote -- you "shall be saved" if you "confess him as Lord with your mouth, and believing...God raised him from the dead." Paul clearly says that alone - quote - "shall save you." (Romans 10:9 NKJV) However, this makes no sense. It can only prevail by the ignorance of the reader not knowing Jesus says the opposite. Jesus says calling Him Lord, Lord, but working lawlessness -- such as trusting faith alone in facts about Jesus' resurrection and thereby wallowing in lukewarm works -- is the direct road to rejection, not salvation.

Second Peter then correctly says this error of the reader of Paul leads them to accept Paul's sometimes nonsensical words, and adopt "lawless" principles. Then Second Peter says this is "to their own destruction," and thereby lose their "steadfastness" in Christ. (2 Peter 3:17-18.)

However, had they not been ignorant, such as being familiar with passages like Matthew 7:21-23, they would not have been misled into a life of "lawless" principles, and "destruction" in how they understood Paul's sometimes DSYNOETAS.

In the name of Jesus Christ may you meet yourself and your intentions for others everywhere you go.

This is copy-pasta from above. You are larping to rile hatred against Christians, and using anti-Christ Pauline teachings to do so. Evil be gone!

Everyone has sinned but not everyone lives in sin – not every person is a slave of sin.

Committing sin is being a slave of sin. Living in sin is being a slave of sin

Every person without Yeshua the Messiah is in sin. Therefore we were sinners before Yeshua the Messiah dwelt in us.

When we come to Yeshua the Messiah, at the Cross, the old man is crucified and the body of sin done away with – sin is done away with.

Rom 6:6: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin

Rom 6:14: For sin shall not have dominion over you

Rom 6:16: Do you not know, that to whom you yield yourselves slaves to obey, you are that ones’ slave whom you obey.

John 8:34: Yeshua answered them, ‘Truly Truly I say to you, whoever commits sin is a slave of sin’

In the Messiah Yeshua Immanuel we are freed from being slaves of sin to being slaves of righteousness (Rom 6:16) thus we do not live in sin but in righteousness.

The story of woman caught in adultery is a picture of us being slaves of sin before coming to Yeshua the Messiah. When you come to Yeshua the Messiah, He forgives us our sins and says unto us, ‘go sin no more’ (John 8:1-11) thus you live righteously.

If you claim to have Jesus Christ dwelling in you and yet living in sin, a slave of sin – you are a liar.

1John 1:6: If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not practice the truth.

Every person who comes truly in repentance and believes in Yeshua as the Messiah with all his/her heart soul and mind, immediately all his/her sins are washed away and from that minute the person has power and dominion over sin to live righteously for the rest of his/her life on earth.

You need the True Way, Truth and Life Yeshua and His power to live holy and righteous.

Do you know why people like yourself come to Yeshua yet continue living in sin, committing sin?

Because you accepted Him but deny the power. Therefore you only have a form of godliness living in sin

2Tim 3:2-6: For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with various lusts.

Many professing Christians today have a form of godliness but denying the power. Their life and ways reveal sin, testify of darkness. They profess with their tongues Jesus Christ but their deeds and life testifies of Satan – they know the truth but they deny it. Like yourself. Cussing and lying.

You cannot be holy outside but what comes in from you is filthy – it is hypocrisy. You cannot be holy inside but outside testifies of Satan – it is hypocrisy.

Sin cannot be overcome until you accept the power for the kingdom of God is not in word but in power. Accept the power for you to be delivered – set free from sin.

Get down on your knees today and plead the Father Mother release you of your sinful nature and hypocrisy and pray sincerely with all your heart, soul and mind that the Holy Spirit FREE YOU from your sinful Pharisee nature.

Yeshua delivers every person who truly comes to Him, sets you free from dominion and chains of sin thus you cannot be a slave of sin, live in sin, continue sinning. Are you delivered? No. You cuss and lie. You follow a false prophet Q, worship idols (flag, country and Trump).

Mt 7:13-14: Enter you by the narrow gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way that leads to destruction and there are many who go in it. Because narrow is the gate and difficult is the way that leads to life and there are few who find it.

1Cor 6:9-10 Do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Gal 5:19-21 Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

18And we know that no one who is born from God commits sin, for he who is born from God keeps his soul and The Evil One does not touch it. 19We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in The Evil One. 20And we know that The Son of God has come and he has given us a mind to know The True One and to be in The True One -- in his Son, Yeshua The Messiah. This One is The True God and The Life Eternal. 1 John 5

21My children, keep yourselves from the worship of idols. 1 John 5

4But whoever commits sin commits evil, for sin is entirely evil. 5And you know that he was revealed to take away our sins and there is no sin in him. 6No one who remains in him commits sin, and no one who sins has seen him, neither has he known him. 7Children, let no one deceive you; he who does righteousness is righteous even as The Messiah* also is righteous. 8He who commits sin is from Satan, because Satan is a sinner from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this reason: To destroy the works of Satan*. 9No one who is begotten from God commits sin, because his seed is in him and he is not able to sin because he has been begotten from God. 10By this the children of God are distinguished from the children of Satan: no one who does not do righteousness, neither loves his brother, is from God. 1 John 3

Get clean today. You're living in sin and cannot see. Your eyes have been blinded from the truth. Hence Satan leads you down the path of perdition giving you false knowledge.