Source: Mackey's Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, Talmud
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"It furnishes also many curious illustrations of the Masonic system; and several of the traditions and legends, especially of the higher Degrees, are either found in or corroborated by the Talmud."
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TALMUD
The Hebrew word signifying doctrine. The Jews say that Moses received on Mount Sinai not only the written law which is contained in the Pentateuch but an oral law, which was first communicated by him to Aaron, then by them to the seventy elders, and finally by these to the people, and thus transmitted by memory, from generation to generation This oral law was never committed to writing until about the beginning of the third century, when Rabbi Jehuda the Holy, finding that there was a possibility of its being lost, from the decrease of students of the law, collected all the traditionary laws into one book, which is called the Mishap, a word signifying repetition, because it is, as it were, a repetition of the written law. The Mishna was at once received with great veneration and many wise men among the Jews devoted themselves to its study.
Toward the end of the fourth century, these opinions were collected into a book of commentaries, called the Gernara, by the school at Tiberias. This work has been falsely attributed to Rabbi Jochanan; but he died in 279, a hundred years before its composition. The Mishna and its Commentary, the Gemara, are, in their collected form, called the Talmlud. The Jews in Chaldea, not being satisfied with the interpretations in this work composed others, which were collected together by Rabbi Ashe into another Gemara. The former work has since been known as the Jerusalem Talmud, and that of Rabbi Ashe as the Babylonian Talmud, from the places in which they were respectively compiled. In both works the Mishna or law is the same; it is only the Gemara or Commentary that is different.
The Jewish scholars place so high a value on the Talmud as to compare the Bible to water, the Mishna to wine, and the Gemara to spiced wine; or the first to salt, the second to pepper, and the third to spices. For a long time after its composition it seemed to absorb all the powers of the Jewish intellect, and the labors of Hebrew writers were confined to treatises and speculations on Talmudical opinions.
The Mishna is divided into six divisions called Sederim, whose subjects are:
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The productions of the earth;
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Festivals;
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The rights and duties of women;
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Damages and injuries;
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Sacrifices;
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Purification.
Each of these Sederim is again divided into Massicoth, or treatises, of which there are altogether sixty-three.
The Gemara, which differs in the Jerusalem and Babylonian redactions, consists of commentaries on these Massicoth, or treatises.
Of the Talmud, Lightfoot has said that the matters it contains "do everywhere abound with trifles in that manner, as though they had no mind to be read; with obscurities and difficulties, as though they had no mind to be understood; so that the reader has need of patience all along to enable him to bear both trifling in sense and roughness in expression." Stehelin concurs in a similar opinion; but Steinschneider, as learned a Hebraist as either, has expressed a more favorable judgment.
Although the Talmud does indeed contain many passages whose peculiarities found little favor with Doctor Mackey, he deemed it, nevertheless, extremely serviceable as an elaborate compendium of Jewish customs, and it has therefore been much used in the cretinism of the Old and New Testaments. It furnishes also many curious illustrations of the Masonic system; and several of the traditions and legends, especially of the higher Degrees, are either found in or corroborated by the Talmud. The treatise entitled Middoth, for instance, gives us the best description extant of the Temple of Solomon
22838848? ago
The Talmud is vile.
It has some of the same kid rape stuff that the quran has.
It's satanic.
It's not even really jewish -- the evil ones couldn't leave their old "oral tradition," or babylonian ways, so they recreated it.
Jesus said to watch out for those who call themselves jews but are not -- they are of the synagogue of satan.
And it's STILL going on -- two thousand years later.
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22813211? ago
You know the Old Testament is Jewish, right? Much of Masonry is based on the Old Testament.
22816107? ago
The OT is from God. The Talmud is from Satan. Your logic is whacked out.
22818785? ago
Masonry is based on the OT rendering your entire argument invalid, because it would mean all Christian religion springs from the same source. My logic is not at fault here.
The Talmud is a commentary on the first five books of the Jewish Bible: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deutoronomy, which make up the Torah. The Talmud used is the Babylonian Talmud as opposed to the Jerusalem Talmud, which is where maybe you should research instead of cutting and pasting.
The OT predates the Talmud. The Talmud focuses on Moses. Freemasonry doesn't and focuses mainly on the building of the Temple and later on the story of Paul from the NT. I don't believe you have actually read what you cut and paste ... because the only part of what you pasted connected to the title of the post, is the last two lines. The rest of your wall of text is in reference to the Bible ... which is what I stated. Your argument is essentially that the OT is Jewish, and the Talmud is a commentary of the first five books of the OT. That David and Solomon were Jewish, and that Jewish influence was found in the Temple of Solomon, which Freemasonry is based on .... what a revelation!
Nothing in your comment "The OT is from God. The Talmud is from Satan." has any basis in fact ... and has nothing to do with your lazy cut and paste job. I suggest reading before pasting so that it is relevant to your argument.
22819135? ago
So you're saying the Talmud is not from Satan?
22819507? ago
I'm saying that your "defense" of your post has nothing to do with your new argument. You introduced this to avoid having to respond to any points or criticism. If the Talmud is or isn't from Satan ... it has fuckall to do with your post.
22819599? ago
Damn you're upset.
22819617? ago
Lol ... jumping back to projection whenever you get destroyed. I thought you challenged me to dispute your next post when you lost the arguments in the previous two. I've disputed and you are upset. Bless!
22819663? ago
Cool!
22819757? ago
Runs like a little bitch again. Can never back up a thing. Hilarious.
22819789? ago
Are you a jew or something?
22820013? ago
Look at the deflection! No, I'm not. I'm a historian who calls out people spreading fake news ... and once in a 100 posts actually might learn something, but the other 99% of the time, find a shill with no idea wtf they are talking about and whose infantile ego forces them to make comments like yours rather than taking time to reflect on their lives and try to be better people.
22820536? ago
Ok great Freemasonry isnt bad or connected with Jewish occultism or the Talmud because you say so. Yippie!
22820666? ago
I didn't say that, but we've established over and over that you aren't exactly the sharpest tool in the box.
22820804? ago
So is Freemasonry good or bad?
22821014? ago
I've yet to see any evidence either way. You've failed to convince me you actually understand what it is when you say "Freemasonry" as you don't seem to understand it beyond what you cut and paste. You present other people's opinions as your own with no understanding or research.
This post is a case in point. You present "Talmud Relationship to Freemasonry" and then present no evidence in your cut and paste that demonstrates anything other than the OT is Jewish, the Torah is Jewish, the Talmud is Jewish. Solomon was Jewish. The Temple is Jewish. Freemasonry is based on the Temple and therefore uses Jewish symbols and imagery (based on the Bible). That's what you posted if you had actually read it.
There's no revelation. There's nothing to say the Talmud is by Satan. There's nothing to say Freemasonry is good or bad. These are just you avoiding responsibility to stand by your post and deflecting again.
22821244? ago
Calm down sheesh.
22821296? ago
You think I'm irate and upset? lol. I love these discussions. They brighten my day. I love shining a light into dark places.
22822888? ago
Now you can see my MO. Im like a small handful of people here that know about the Masonic system so I'll step it up in my next post so make sure your socks are pulled up.
22827760? ago
And yet, you've never shown the slightest knowledge other than cutting and pasting. You can't answer the most basic questions. You don't even read what you posting ... and you refuse to debate or argue. Then you claim that you are "a small handful of people here that know about the Masonic system ... I'll step it up in my next post so make sure your socks are pulled up" ... you've already made that claim and failed constantly.
22822870? ago
Oh lol ok
22812838? ago
By the way, it has been said the Jesuits have secret degrees for the Jesuit priests and that Scottish Rite is taken almost verbatim, or so I was told, but it was adapted since The Jesuits are supposedly Christian and the Scottish Rite is not but rather universal to all monotheistic religions (globalist).
22812678? ago
What I think is being referred to is "Scottish Rite" and not "blue Freemasonry (the first 3 degrees). Scottish Rite was written by a fellow named Ramsey, a French Jew who became a Jesuit. If you read about the history, Ignatius of Loyola brought a huge number of Spanish Jews into the Jesuits and they ostensibly converted to Christianity but in truth many people they did not but only pretended to (crypto Jews). Today, the Church is controlled by Jesuits and some folks believe it was actually the Jewish takeover of Catholicism. And Scottish Rite is not Freemasonry. It is an organization whose members are made up of Freemasons, sort of a club within Freemasonry but not controlled by Freemasonry. Also worth noting, Scottish Rite split into Northern and Southern jurisdiction over the Morgan affair.
22816112? ago
Interesting.
22813209? ago
I've had this conversation with the OP. He doesn't understand Constitutions or Rites and cuts and pastes most of his posts.
22815135? ago
OK, that explains it. Most people don't understand Freemasonry. It's mostly obsolete now.
22812552? ago
An interesting claim but I want meat, not fluff. "Many curious ..." that's bullpucky. Give me specifics. And I've been in every masonic body, so I'll understand what you're saying and I also have a copy of the Talmud.
22816117? ago
Well then you should know.
22823506? ago
I wanted to explain what you were referring to. In fact, there are lots of details that I assumed were biblical but they could also be Talmud. The Scottish Rite is a group of members who are masons but Freemasonry has no control over Scottish Rite. For example, you could start a club made up of boy scouts who are now adults and you might actually be seeking to change the BS and the BS might hate you and have no control over your group. You're fee to have such a club and the Scottish Rite is a club made up of Freemasons but Freemasonry, the organization, has no control over Scottish Rite. Just to give you a little more info, there are degrees from 4th to the 33rd degree and each is a little play based on biblical stories and perhaps they get lots of info from the Talmud. I don't know. So the people dress up in period costumes and act out the play and it's supposed to teach some sacred lesson. They charge money and people who are members go for a year or or three but then tire of it and stop going but because the lessons all full of hocus pocus biblical stuff, they think it's sacred and they continue to pay their dues and rarely ever attend again unless there some group meal. Really, it's pretty boring but it used to once upon a time provide cover for people who were involved in other things such as spying and this provided an excuse for people to travel or meet together. An example, suppose Joe Smith is my spy master handler, contact and we both belong to SR. Well, we can both attend meetings and perhaps travel up the elevator together and Joe can pass me a bundle of paperwork without any suspicion and no record of us meeting. So these kind of organizations provide cover for secretive activities and it could be Lions club instead of Scottish Rite. But such organizations never seem to be needed for such things nowadays so they are dying out since they are just boring.