So, I've talked to a lot of people from here, a bunch of conversations turned into phone calls and interviews and some great leads for me into different information.
I'll be straightforward, this is going to be a longer piece for our magazine - probably about 5,000 words and after some serious push back by me, it will fully explore both sides of the issue. I managed to get some interviews with some of the people from the 24/7 Patriot Soapbox and here on Voat. This is not a hit-piece at all, this is an in-depth look at who is involved in the Qanon movement, who supports it, and who is promoting it online. I'll be presenting everything with zero opinion and I've talked my editor into giving me full veto power over opinion-based edits.
I'll also be exploring the actual analytics of the Qanon movement, meaning base numbers of how many people show up. I'll also be laying out some of the biggest issues and touchpoints for Q followers and exploring the facts behind them in relation to what is said on the boards vs. the drops.
I have some outstanding issues I'm currently working on and thought this would be the perfect place to talk through them -- I'm still discussing a lot with people in the other thread but I wanted to keep them separate.
So, here we go, I'm not trying to make people look bad, I'm just exploring the facts:
1) The Sealed Indictments:
I've spoken with four lawyers who are considered experts on the PACER system, and all four have said that the only way to reproduce the 100k number discussed by the community is to open all search terms in all districts - meaning that the search is looking for all wiretaps, warrants, search requests, and everything else in every legal district in the United States. In effect, this is like searching for "Books" on Amazon and finding millions of results.
2) Adrenochrome:
I have found zero mention of Adrenochrome in the Q Drops, and I've spoken to several chemists and doctors who have explained to me that Adrenochrome is not a chemical compound that can have any effect on the body the way it is described here. It looks like long term exposure is actually detrimental and can cause major issues in the brain. I would love to learn how it became so popular here since Q never mentions Adrenochrome and simple research into the chemical compound shows it does nothing for individuals.
3) The Submarine:
There is an ongoing narrative here that a cabal owned submarined fired a nuclear missile at Air Force One while it was flying to North Korea. I've spoken with missile engineers and people who do that math for a living and they say that it just doesn't add up in any way, shape or form. I'm wondering why a narrative of something like that which is so easily disproved continues.
I want to genuinely thank everyone here for speaking to me and talking with me about this, it really means a lot and I truly respect every one of you, aside from the obvious troublemakers who just vent and say awful things.
I'm looking forward to continuing this dialogue!
Thank you!!
20070039? ago
ReporterAnon,
Replying to an old thread so as to avoid the shills on your newest one. I imagine you are swamped with replies right now. I just wanted to encourage you to continue doing what you are doing, and that there are a handful of us that actually understand the importance of what you are doing regardless of what the article actually turns out to be in most people's perception. Thanks for doing your own research.
I also had a thought - since VOAT is pretty much locked at this point and there are only about 16k people that subscribe to the QRV subverse, you are probably one of the very few (if any) reporters that have an open line directly into the Qanon community right now. I hope your boss(es) can see the value of that.
Anyway, take care and God bless!
20071827? ago
That's an interesting point. I've been participating here for more than six months. Thank you for the kind words, I am an actual old school journalist. My stories are facts only and take no side. If my bosses won't print them, I will go elsewhere.
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20034529? ago
If you are focusing on those 3 issues, then you are obviously doing a hit piece. Those are all minor issues in the larger context.
Focus on: Epstein and his connections, Clinton child abductions in places like Haiti, foundations of politicians that don't actually do anything but write a few checks (start with McCain's foundation if you don't want to accuse someone alive, and look at the tax returns for that foundation -- if you don't go "Aha!" then you are willfully blind), and North Korea.
Why is Epstein in jail? Why do politicians have foundations that don't do what they claim their mission is? Is it money laundering? Who REALLY controlled North Korea before Trump came along?
If you only focus on minor side issues and ignore the big issues (all related to a worldwide conspiracy -- YES, "conspiracy") then you are not an honest reporter.
While you are at it, look up why the term "conspiracy theory" was originally promoted. Start with the declassified CIA document from 1967.
20034654? ago
So, you've seen the tax returns for the McCain foundation?
Please show any evidence of Clinton child abductions in Haiti as well, I would LOVE to see them and break that story wide open, I would win a Pulitzer.
20034251? ago
From what I've come to understand:
1) The Sealed Indictments:
These are not actual indictments. They are sealed cases/proceedings/records/and/or court orders. One sealed record could involve 1 or more people, no people, and/or items to be unsealed at a later date.
2) Adrenochrome:
I haven't seen where adrenochrome is mentioned by Q either. It is mentioned by some Q followers who have done further research into it and have associated it's use with the occult.
3) The Submarine:
My understanding is that the target of the "missile" was AF1, which did an unannounced stop in Hawaii on it's way to NK; thus the reason for the "alarm" which had many running for shelter on the island. The rouge sub or launch site was believed to have been off the coast of Seattle. No where have I read that NK was the aim of the missile.
There is so much speculation and nonsense from so so many different perspectives that one must weed through the not so credible to get to the more reliable information. I tend to focus on the Q drops and come to my own discernment on what they are implying. Thank you for approaching this with an open mind.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3vw9N96E-aQ
20034283? ago
Why am I seeing my username in a supposed anon post?
20033617? ago
2) Adrenochrome:
Why did Kubrick have it written on the wall in the milk bar in A Clockwork Orange. Milk pronounced the same as MLK which is the old word for sacrifice in the bible.
Some Q followers have been researching the cabal for many many years.
20035014? ago
Oh, also it said Drencrom on the wall in Clockwork Orange, not Adrenochrome. Again, it's a fictional account of drugs based on an urban legend.
20064946? ago
...and thats why he cryptically had it on the wall misspelt! Typical answer from fake news.
20034159? ago
Sure, doesn't mean that it's a real thing that operates in the mythical manner people describe.
20033171? ago
ReporterAnon,
Thanks for your honest interest in the community and your effort to get the information first hand. Whether the piece turns out to be a hit or not I am actually just very glad and thankful that you've decided to do the investigative research yourself, on the "ground" so to speak.
In my opinion there are probably better subjects to cover that are Q related, but I won't try to steer your writing. Instead I'll try to answer some of the questions you posed.
Sealed Indictments
I'll have to defer to more knowledgeable anons on this subject since I don't actually follow it too closely. There have been a handful of Anons that pointed out the same notes that you brought up here before, but I'm honestly unsure.
Adrenochrome
So Q has not mentioned this himself, like you pointed out. The closest thing he has mentioned is medication/drugs that the elite have access to that normal people do not. As for Adrenochrome, it's actually a bit of an older theory that was brought into the Qanon movement. I'm not an internet historian, and maybe another Anon can add to or correct me, but I think it's roots are based in the idea that the elite create this drug from inducing pain and torture to a victim before death, and then removing the pineal gland to either use in ingredients or in consume raw. It wasn't a theory that was necessarily started by Qanon, just one that was brought to the table.
The Submarine
So I'm not sure sure about the nuclear missile aspect, but an anti-aircraft missile or air defense missile would make more sense. Either way, that theory stems from an instance where a weather company picked up a missile launch out of the Puget Sound on their webcams. At the time, and to my knowledge, there were no capabilities for a missile to be fired from any based nearby. The missile was fired as Air Force One was making its way across Canada. Q later referenced a nuclear submarine that was in the bay at the time. I can't speak as an expert on nuclear submarine capabilities, and anyone that could likely will not say anything at all, but it's within the realm of possibility is that a missile could have been fired from that submarine that could strike an aircraft. A good summary can be seen here:
https://centipedenation.com/analysis-and-reports/missile-stopped-patriots-are-in-control/
My Own Opinions
Not that you asked for them or that they matter, but I am a late-blooming conspiracy theorist and I still take a long time to fully bite onto any theories until they've been thoroughly vetted. To me, and from what Qanon HAS said, this movement is about unifying America again and taking power back from the political elite. A big part of that has been exposing the child prostitution rings in politics and teaching people how to dig into events and make up their own minds on facts that they can find themselves. There are a lot of conspiracy theories associated with Qanon that don't actually belong to him/her/them, like you've pointed out with the adrenochrome, and as you've probably noticed on the boards there is a lot of race baiting within the community itself to try to make us seem exclusive to only one particular race, or to single out another specific race to blame for all crimes. Qanon has never excluded anyone and in fact has iterated that this movement is about unity on multiple occasions.
All this being said, I hope other Anons are able to provide you with more knowledgeable answers than I have been able to! And despite what other goats here may say, I am glad to see you doing your own investigative work.
20034528? ago
I agree on all points.
20034097? ago
Adrenochrome isnt made in the brain; it is manufactured in the kidneys. DMT is made from tryptophan and melatonin in the pineal gland.
20034960? ago
Either way, Adrenochrome is not a drug that can be derived and consumed in any way that will get the effects that are reported to happen by Q followers. Adrenochrome is available for purchase in synthetic form and it has mostly negative effects on the human body. Reports of naturally derived versions offer no positive effects either.
20037938? ago
i was not disagreeing with you. you did a good job covering things, but you did not address that common misconception. i believe i was only furthering your point.
20034189? ago
Thank you for the correction. I hope OP See's this. I'll add it to the main text just in case
20033058? ago
Okay... we can stop replying to this "unbiased reporter"... every single reply of theirs is just seeking to discredit instead of leading to further investigating.
20035486? ago
Agreed. Done replying.
20033142? ago
Thank you for your opinion.
20033002? ago
I'm very happy to have a dialogue and help you in your research, but I don't see where you are looking into anything resembling the primary focus of the vast majority of information Q has provided, suggested or pointed out. You mention three topics that you encountered either on this board or speaking with "Q followers" -- do you see any mention of the above specifically in Q drops? Or were they added by anons "research" and speculation? These are three topics but are far from the most important topics.
What have you discovered about the primacy focus of Q's drops? It would seem that most of the drops relate in some way to the crimes that were committed by prior administration officials to stage a coup attempt against a duly elected president. Have you researched the named traitors? Here are some ideas.
Did Loretta Lynch ask James Comey to lie or withhold information? What did Loretta discuss with Bill Clinton on the Tarmac? Did it have to do with grandkids? Also, did she approve a special visa so that Natalia Veselnitskaya was allowed to enter the country? Was she on a prohibited list that would have otherwise prevented her entry?
Did John Brennan convene a "task force" consisting of CIA and FBI agents to investigate the Trump campaign, and later frame the incoming administration for fabricated crimes? How normal is such a task force? What was the predicate to the initial investigation, now that the original story (papadapolous mentioning emails) has been widely discredited?
Did Jim Comey, Andy McCabe, Peter Strzok, Bill Priestap, Lisa Page or anyone else at FBI travel to London in 2016? If so, why? Were they running informants into a presidential campaign? If so, what were the reasons? What are "OCONUS lures" and why were they important?
Why were months of text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page deleted? What do you think they may have been talking about? That would be a great idea, digging into what is missing and how so much was allowed to be deleted (and wiped clean).
Was James Clapper being truthful when he told congress that he did not have any discussions with any journalists regarding the Steele Dossier? What about when he said he spoke with Jake Tapper regarding the dossier for the first time on May 14, 2017?
Here is a recent one - Dan Coats. How did Dan come to be appointed? Was Dan working to implement the president's agenda, or was he working against him? Q indicated the latter many times. Provable? See what you can find out!
What has president Trump authorized to be Declassified - sometimes referred by Q and others here as DECLAS? What do we think it might reveal? What has Q intimated it may reveal? What happens if what Q suggested many times is wrong or right and what are the potential outcomes?
There is so much to learn about how this "Russia" investigation started. Let's consider the DNC "hack" - have you looked into this? There seems to be solid evidence it was not a hack but an inside "leak" -- what does that do to the credibility of the entire story? Was Crowdstrike paid by the DNC? Why didn't they give the servers over to the FBI? why didn't they give the FBI an unredacted report? Is the FBI not entitled to that information? I don't understand. What were the data transfer rates of the files from the "hack?" Are those rates possible over an internet connection? Who was Seth Rich? How was he killed? What was recently uncovered in the Edward Butowsky lawsuit? Maybe run this by your lawyer friends. What did Julian Assange tell Ellen Rattner?
You mentioned the Sealed indictments and compared to books for sale on Amazon. Are the number of sealed indictments in line with the normal amount? Or has the amount grown? Do your lawyer friends have any feedback on any changes in overall volume?
Another great topic - Voter ID laws. Why do Voter ID laws suppress minorities? Is there supporting data for this? Do drivers license requirements hinder minority driving? Do ID requirements unfairly limit access to welfare and other social programs? Who is for voter ID? Who is against?
Epstein Island - this is in the news RIGHT NOW. Potential Pulitzer opportunity. What did Q indicate was going on there? Were there tunnels beneath parts of the island? What did that "Temple" signify? Pre "storm damage" it had a gold dome and some idols (including an owl) on the top. Seems strange, and significant to us. Were there levels beneath? what was the purpose? Were children abused on that island? Were they killed? What is up with the multiple apparanet under ground entrances near the temple? What about the ventilation system? Who went to the island? Were the Clintons there? What other people of influence went there? How about the Rachel Chandler photos? How much did Epstein spend recently in construction on that island (not the adjacent island)? Is it true they were doing demo, covering tunnels? Is this discoverable? Also, how about the drone footage? Q posted recently. The mattress, in the temple, apparent blood stains? Help us understand.
I'll add more if you need, but this should be a great start if you take some time to research for yourself.
20033214? ago
How about why did Getty Images delete EVERY instance of Rachel Chandler from their photo archive once her name reached mainstream news connected to Epstein? We knew about here from Q for a long time. Ask Getty why, overnight, they dumped hundreds of photos of her. Now if you search for her, you get 45 images of an old woman.
20034321? ago
I went into this and spoke to Getty, there were no deleted photos, this is a myth.
20035035? ago
I saw it before and after. Many did! Why do you believe what GETTY is telling you?! They are the ones who did the deleting.
I was on 8chan the night it all happened. I saw it with my own eyes. I even pasted the Getty link into Archive to save it, but someone over-wrote it with a newer version.
20035211? ago
This is interesting, I'll reach back out and ask them to explain, as well as reach out to Chandler to ask her about it as well, I have a call scheduled with her next week.
20035071? ago
I don't trust anyone, I do my own research. If you can send me a link to the evidence of deleted photos, I'd love to see it. But, up to this point, no one has been able to provide that and they all say the same thing, they saw it get deleted but their versions were erased.
20035171? ago
I just did send you a link. Look at it. It is a cached archive of the Getty images (WITH Getty watermarks on them!) of Epstein's Rachel Chandler. None of these Getty watermarked images exist on their site anymore. I am showing you what may be the last evidence still out there. Every one of those images at the top of the cached page linked to a larger live photo of her on Getty's site.
20035298? ago
This could be something as simple as her asking for the pictures to be removed, but as I said, I will inquire.
20036112? ago
You said "I went into this and spoke to Getty, there were no deleted photos, this is a myth."
They already lied to you when they said "there were no deleted photos." There are 34 pictures and links here just from this one archived page alone. There were many more live on Getty the day this went down.
20036139? ago
That is why I'll be following up.
20034536? ago
It does seem like you are searching for areas to discredit. No feedback on any of the core issues raised above.
Even in this case, why would Getty tell you the truth and how did you go about validating what they said? The most pertinent Rachel Chandler images are preserved indefinitely and referenced by Q. Some investigation into those images would be useful for everyone.
20034630? ago
I have looked into several, specifically the plane image, which wasn't taken on Epstein's plane as everyone claims, it was taken on an entirely different plane when she was 19. There's also no real evidence Chandler has any involvement. The woman who spent years cracking the Epstein case back open and is credited with his re-arrest has said several times publicly she has seen zero evidence of Chandler being involved in anything Epstein has done:
Miami Herald reporter Julie Brown, who was fundamental in uncovering Epstein’s alleged sex-trafficking crimes, told us that she never come across Chandler’s name during her investigation into Epstein: “I have never run across her name anywhere — and I checked with two people involved in the case for 12 years and they never heard of her. They suspect it’s BS internet conspiracy shit.”
20034988? ago
Did you confirm the plan on which is was taken? Please share the evidence. What was she doing on a plane with Bill Clinton? The photo definitely doesn't match any of the photos released recently in the DailyMail article of the 727 Lolita Express jet - but when was the photo taken and when was the plane last refitted? Older photo and interior updated? Also, Epstein had a Gulfstream IV and a G550 in addition to the 727 Lolita express.
More interesting are these photos.... from Rachel's instagram. Have you researched these as well? https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/c1c5563527f5e86ee18b7aae126b2410949a515b7f57bf8a3adb356bdb155b15.png
20035106? ago
Yes, the photo was taken in 2006 aboard Ron Burkle's plane, and he has confirmed that, as has Bill Clinton. Photos of Epstein's plane do not look similar to the photo in question.
I clicked on your link and it was dead. I do know many photos were attributed to Chandler's instagram that came from other sources, so I would be curious to see what you have.
20035369? ago
The link is from QMap and works for me.... Makes sense that it could be Burkle's plane, as there were similar things allegedly happening on that plane as on the Lolita. I have no other information on how Chandler is connected, but the instagram photos of the apparent bedroom and hallway cameras as well as Q's indication of them seems significant. Epstein island. What was that temple for and what lies beneath? Was anything covered up or destroyed? What about the drone footage? Worth investigating.
20035451? ago
It wasn't clickable, i had to paste it into a browser. It's security footage, what makes you or anyone else think it is from Epstein Island, especially if there is no other connection at all? The temple has been revealed to be a simple room with nothing much but a bed and some scaffolding stuck in it.
Where did you see things alleged on Ron Burkle's plane that tied it to the Lolita Express?
I think it's become very easy for people to throw out accusations with no evidence aside from "it was posted on the internet."
20036880? ago
If you are researching Q, you already know the answer to this. It's what is under the temple that is interesting. Take Q's statements and research those. Q has said there are rooms and levels under the temple, and that Epstein spent $29 Mil to fill them in once he was feeling the heat. Q has also indicated that Rachel Chandler's security cam footage was from the tunnels under Epsteins temple.
Have you seen this analysis of the tunnels? https://files.catbox.moe/3vlh4p.jpg
20036973? ago
All of that is pure speculation based on a single photo from a completely unknown location and source.
20033197? ago
Pretty sure they're really not interested in researching things like this. More interested in making Q followers look retarded/crazy. That seems to be this "unbiased reporter's" primary focus
20034880? ago
Not true at all.
20032823? ago
1) Sealed Indictments - What is the normal number of sealed indictments over the past 5 years? What if you were looking for only 75K? That means 30K normal ones that have all the regular indictments plus 75K MORE! You should be looking to see how many sealed indictments there are ABOVE normal levels, not the 100K number you probably got from disinformation agents. They come on the boards and spread the 100K number again and again. You, working with them, come on and act surprised to see the 100K number. You see it's inflated, obviously, so you can conclude the ENTIRE MOVEMENT IS FAKE!!! See how easy it is to discredit real information? Anons don't speak for everyone. They just share information. You have to use your brain to reasonably see how it fits together, if at all.
2) Adreno was the name of a GPU that GOOGLE used. Chrome is their browser. There is tons of information out there on this if you really want to find it. Adrenochrome is supposedly produced in the adrenal gland. There's a whole world of info on the sacred pineal gland in many cultures. The pope for instance has a pine cone on his staff to symbolize the pineal gland. This gland releases important chemicals into our blood when needed. Some suggest that these chemicals are harvested from tortured slaves at an industrial scale. Is it really that far of a stretch to think evil people could go this far for drugs? Look at the deaths over cocaine. Imagine a drug that is described as having the potential to keep you young and give you an intense high. Of course there will be weak, twisted individuals who will gravitate to that. As well, I believe I have seen screen shots of it being sold over the dark web along with many other designer drugs. Again, you need to actually do some research. This information is everywhere.
3) "So easily disproved." Ok, then disprove it. Just because you talked to a missile engineer doesn't prove anything. That's CNN level reasoning right there. There needs to be real information behind your disproving of something. You could say there isn't enough evidence to say it ever happened but that isn't the same thing as you saying "so easily disproved." So.... please disprove the missile theory with logical reasoning and I'm sure you will have many of us agree with you if it is sound.
My critique of you:
Your IQ is very low and you've clearly grown up in the same school system we all did. You have no logical progression of your ideas and thoughts using facts. You use emotion and loaded words we all learned in high school English classes. You are not a reporter. You are a paid shill. You have time to change your ways but your ego will probably get in the way of you ever breaking free of the controlled paradigm you live in.
20038222? ago
Adreno wasn't Google, it was their competitor Samsung. Please do some very basic research before believing something so wholeheartedly.
20032938? ago
So, you don't consider every source that describes ballistics saying that 5000 miles is too far for any sub launched missile to travel accurately or at all to be evidence. These are people that design and build these same missiles.
If you don't accept that as evidence, I don't know how to help you. As for the rest, I won't dignify it with a response.
20032752? ago
Ask a commercial pilot if a maintenance guy could steal a cargo jet. Get it up in the air. Do a few loopty loops or what ever he did and crash into "deserted" island.
20032882? ago
It's not impossible at all.
20034503? ago
I think you're being baited here. With respect, the missile question is a rabbit hole on its own, and may be too tricky to resolve. Military ops are super secret - even rogue ones - but the bulk of the cabal's crimes are much easier to reveal. Just focussing on the Clinton Foundation, for example, will give you plenty of proof of the veracity of Q.
20033182? ago
You believe that official story but think the SUBMARINE is far fetched?! That plane was flown like a drone from someone on the ground. It was no coincidence where it "crashed."
20034337? ago
I don't think a rogue agent having a submarine is far fetched, I believe shooting any missile 5000 miles towards an airplane is impossible. I've asked many experts and they agree.
20032962? ago
Where did the plane crash? C'mon man. I gotta go to work, times tight. Try digging. Looking at 12 inches of water doesn't show you the ocean.
20032720? ago
For the Adrenochrome issue, maybe go ask the Satanists. They will know all about it.
For the submarine, it apparently was a helicopter. Here is an article.
https://q13fox.com/2018/06/11/missile-launch-lens-flare-mysterious-object-spotted-over-whidbey-island-raises-questions/
The CIA will no doubt confirm that they do not have a navy or a submarine.
Look up Gary Webb, Andrew Brietbart, Michael Hastings, and others.
Will you say anything about the Federal Reserve?
20035025? ago
So, who would you recommend I reach out to that would represent, "the Satanists?"
20038095? ago
Mark Passio.
20032711? ago
Just gonna go out on a limb here and say this reporter is MR. lol wouldn’t be that far fetched as we know the tactics he loves to employ in his “debunks” seem very similar to this setup.
20032889? ago
I think you mean Michael Rothschild, that is not me and not who I work for. Thanks though.
20032920? ago
Just a guess. So when does this article get published?
20034353? ago
I have a few more weeks to finish it up.
20032672? ago
I noticed a couple of inconsistencies with your parameters that you may want to look at before you publish. In a couple of instances, you focused on specifics instead of one step back.
With regard to adrenochrome, that is a facet of the overall issue of child trafficking/sacrifice. Adrenochrome, whether it's real or not, is speculation. Child trafficking and murder is not. Epstein in about to blow the top off of this, if he's not Arkancided first.
Nobody fires a nuclear missile at a jet liner. That's not how the targeting system works. Submarine launched antiaircraft missiles are another thing entirely. Dig further before you publish.
20032727? ago
An anti-aircraft missile from a sub, which I've discussed with the Navy, absolutely cannot even come close to covering the range from NK to Seattle.
20035568? ago
True, but there's an awful lot of water between the two. Water, the natural environment for a submarine and is something planes fly over.
20035609? ago
You can't suddenly change the evidence of what has been shown. The launch was supposed to happen from near Whidby Island off the coast of Seattle. The plane was supposed to be flying from Europe to NK at the time. Those are the basic facts, you can't just suddenly claim it happened in some other place. There were photos of the supposed events.
20035692? ago
How the hell do you get anywhere near the west coast flying to NK from Europe? One would think coming back here would be the long way 'round.
Now, if they came back here first, flying within 500m of Whidbey is more than believable. But using a nuke to take out a plane or an intercontential antiaircraft missile is just pure fantasy.
20035764? ago
Correct.
20035881? ago
Plane or no plane, a launch from Whidbey is in itself odd. It's not a test area and it's in the footprint of a major international airport as well as huge shipping lanes.
We know one was fired from there, we just don't know what was fired or what it was fired at...if not AF1.
20035911? ago
We know there was something that looked like a possible launch. Don't you think an airport worker would raise a red flag or say something when a missile lights up his radar?
20036032? ago
Kinda depends on the observer and how long it's on the scope, one would think. Intercontinental flights are on for a long time. Something that goes from "in range" to "detonated" in a couple of seconds might leave some of them wondering "WTF?"
Plus...and this is something I observed in Iraq...depending on the type of radar, things appear differently at different ranges. Our short range array was fast at picking stuff up, but a flock of birds could trip the indirect fire alarm. Our longer range one could tell it was a flock of birds but only starting further out than where short covered. That might be a factor as well.
20035330? ago
Navies have experimented with anti aircraft missiles for submarines, but we do not carry them as far as I am aware. Even if we did, they certainly would not be capable of aquiring and hitting a target 1,000+ miles away.
If this was a missile launched from a sub, then it was more than likely a nuclear ballistic missile possibly launched to detonate in the vicinity of AF1 along its projected flight path. If this did happen, and it was one of our subs, I have no doubt the Navy and DoD would do everything in its power to classify the incident and keep it from the public.
20034025? ago
So if the picture in question taken of whidbey island is indeed of a missile launch, then that would mean the missile was launched off the coast of Washington, not N Korea.
20034363? ago
It's the same distance, and that is what I meant. No submarine based missile can travel 5000 miles.
20033396? ago
My understanding is that the target of the "missile" was AF1, which did an unannounced stop in Hawaii on it's way to NK; thus the reason for the "alarm" which had many running for shelter on the island. The rouge sub or launch site was believed to have been off the coast of Seattle. No where have I read that NK was the aim of the missile.
There is so much speculation and nonsense from so so many different perspectives that one must weed through the not so credible to get to the more reliable information. Thank you for approaching this with an open mind.
20034280? ago
The date of the alarm and the supposed missile launch are not even close. AF1 was coming from Europe on it's way to NK when the supposed missile was launched.
20035332? ago
I personally don't know where AF1 was at any given time and I'd hope nobody else (other than those who need to know) would either. I read AF1 had been diverted to Hawaii on it's way to NK. It's origination point, I don't know. Obviously, it wouldn't have been landing in NK because I don't believe they have the facilities required for that to happen. I could very well be confusing the diversion to Hawaii with another trip where the alarm went off. At the time, I associated the alarm with a missile launch. I will look into it further, they could very well not even be related. It was just my understanding at the time of the reports which came out after the events had already taken place. Thank you for looking into this objectively.
20032669? ago
1) My understanding of the sealed indictments is that these are new indictments filed during a specific timeframe, so it would be more akin to "Books" on Amazon published from 2017-2019. Q says in some of his posts to look for how many of these indictments start with "USA v. X", and it would be interesting to see what the nature of these cases are.
2) Adrenochrome doesn't come from Q, the word is probably popular because of David Icke, but he's not associated with much of what gets talked about in these circles.
As for how this relates to Q, it's because of timing and things that immediately predate the beginning of Q. Look into the 'FBIanon' 4chan thread, I believe it was alleged that Weiner had 'insurance files' on his laptop that was confiscated. This is not directly affiliated with Pizzagate, but it ties into some of the theories that were put forth. There were strange instragram posts and coded language being used by Hillary associates, pictures and talk about a "killroom", the serial killer statues, the underground room in Hawaii, it's hard to explain without having it laid out in front of you, and I'm aware of how strange it would sound to someone who hasn't seen them.
3) I don't know enough about this other than I saw the Q post about it a long time past. From what I remember it was a picture of a missile coming out from the sea. I don't remember if it was alleged it was a nuclear or not, or whether it was discussed who it targeted.
20032777? ago
I've spoken extensively with NYPD and I have yet to find anyone who has had any real interaction with things on Anthony Weiner's laptop. No charges derived from it and they don't seem to have any laptop of his in evidence that anyone I spoke to could find. I even spoke with one officer named in the whole - they threw up thing - and he said he never saw anything.
20034162? ago
I am beginning to doubt you are really a reporter or that you are really trying to write a fair article on Qanon. Weiner’s laptop was seized and a search warrant was issued to search it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/05/17/search-warrant-for-weiners-electronic-devices-unsealed/amp/
It’s no surprise there were no charges. We are dealing with a completely corrupt justice system, hence the fact that Hillary Clinton is still walking free today and Trump has been investigated for 2 years on a made up crime based on knowingly false evidence paid for by his political opponent.
20034246? ago
Your link proves my point. There have been zero charges derived from anything he turned over. They were extensively examined by the authorities with zero results. There have been some discrepancies about if he had an iPad or a Laptop or both. But, either way, nothing was found on them.
20034389? ago
Are you intentionally ignoring my point about the corrupt justice system? Weiner had a folder labeled “insurance file” on his laptop. The IG report on FBI actions during the 2016 election reports that Comey was briefed on Hillary Clinton & Foundation and “crimes against children” when Weiner’s laptop was seized. No one in the corrupt system has been willing to touch the Clintons as evidenced by their decades of open criminal activity. That’s about to change.
Good luck on writing your Qanon hit piece. Really looking forward to reading it. I’m sure it will be great.
20038261? ago
Also, there is zero evidence there was a folder titled Insurance File on that laptop.
20034570? ago
1) Not a hit piece, see my explanation above. 2) Everything you discuss and bring up is rumor with no substantial evidence behind it, so it's difficult to discuss.
20032630? ago
Ms. Reporter, until you go DIRECTLY TO THE SOURCE, the head of our government, you will go around in circles. First, your own leanings tend to be subjective; switch over to objective. Many, many 'Q' adorned Trump fans appear at his rallies, do you cover the rallies? Have you seen 'the baby?' Q has said the question will be asked of the president by the press. Who will be BRAVE enough and
investigativeenough to do that? You are controlled, you can't ask THAT QUESTION. So you will listen to QANONS and leech out what your own masters will publish. The left hates Q, but we know from testimonials from various sources that they also FEAR the intel dropped regarding them.Past proves present: NXIVM, EPSTEIN, EPSTEIN'S ISLAND, HUMAN SACRIFICE, MURDERS (many, many killed to cover), PODESTA'S.
You do sound intelligent, but not so very wise. Are you also afraid to do research on not just the spots mentioned, but to go for the jugular of the people in high places doing EVIL things in the dark.
ASK THE QUESTION, OTHERWISE YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER MSM RUBE LOOKING FOR A NAME TO PUT ON A HIT PIECE.
(Leech: A follower who hangs around a host (without benefit to the host) in hope of gain or advantage)
20032826? ago
Actually, I'm not controlled, I've sent more than 40 requests to the White House directly asking if Trump is Q+, and I've gotten a varied responses from nothing to they don't comment on conspiracy theories. My paper is currently trying to get me a WH Press Pass. I plan to ask it if I can get in.
20032608? ago
You’re right that Q has never specifically mentioned adrenochrome. I’m not sure how that has become such a popular idea. Q has clearly suggested children are being trafficked, sexually and physically abused, and ritually murdered. See drops on Gloria Vanderbilt with the Podesta paintings and picture of the Biltmore pool. Q also said Epstein’s island had 2 purposes: 1 as a sex resort with underrage children and 2. As occult/worship of evil, which he linked to children being trafficked out of Haiti. Also, why hasn’t the media reported on the findings of the IG report into FBI actions during the 2016 election which reveals Comey was briefed on Hillary Clinton & Foundation and “crimes against children” when Anthony Weiner was busted and they looked at his laptop? There is a lot if evidence of nefarious deeds involving the Clintons and Haiti. I think this should be focused on more than the adrenochrome topic.
20033568? ago
Agreed. The adrenochrome topic is not from Q. It is more or less speculation. Not that I have an opinion one way or another, but many have looked into it. I believe it is part of the satanic ritual that may be taking place by some of the more adept occult/devil worshippers.
20034387? ago
Yet, every chemist and doctor I've spoken to says Adrenochrome is a complete myth and just doesn't work that way.
20034802? ago
Anon 20033568 here.
I have no knowledge of adrenochrome other than what other posters have described it to be. It is not mentioned by Q, so I haven't looked into it in depth.
20034649? ago
Since Q does not mention it, why are you using it for an anti-Q story? You are not honest.
20034696? ago
1) It's not an anti-Q story.
2) When I speak with people involved with the Q movement it is one of the most common things they bring up. It is universally mentioned in every interview. So, I am tracking the history of how it was brought into the movement and what the realities of it are.
20032865? ago
So, three weeks ago I met with the Asheville PD and the head of PR for the Biltmore. I drove out there and stayed on site and met with them in the morning where we went to the pool. I had a homicide cold case expert with me and we examined the pool. It had been empty of fluids for more than 25 years and there was zero sign of blood or other body fluids. I have photos of this I'll be publishing with my article along with a report by the forensic expert.
20034657? ago
I don't believe you ever did that. You are a LARP.
20034674? ago
You are allowed to believe whatever you like. You can see all of the evidence and photos when I publish my story next month.
20032580? ago
Who are you again? Name?
Gee! This would be the first MSM NON-HIT-PIECE on Qanon, EVAH! Forgive me for being extremely doubtful about your stated motive.
20032565? ago
BULLSHIT!
20032520? ago
Q has posted numerous times about the submarine missile. Go to QMAP.pub and search "sub." This was discussed at great length here & on chans when it took place. We have no reason to believe it was -not- a missile fired from the rogue sub. Look at the photos from the weather cam and consider the path of AF1 when this took place. Why do you feel this is "so easily disproved?" The Pentagon lost 6 trillion dollars and everyone shrugged their shoulders. Our military decommissions ships and equipment all the time that is supposed to be scrapped.
Just a few years ago, the Navy sold the Sea Shadow, a $170 million dollar stealth ship, for 2.5 mil to be scrapped: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2185831/Declassified-170million-Cold-War-Stealth-boat-snapped-2-5million-condition-scrap-parts.html
A decommissioned off-the-books sub is nowhere out of the realm of impossibility.
20032615? ago
Correct about the sub, but the reality of firing a missile from a submarine in Washington towards South Korea are troubling.
A nuclear missile travels at 13k mph, AF1 travels at around 500mph. The distance is roughly 5000 miles. Any sub launched missile maxes out at around 3,000 miles range and they are designed to hit land masses, not airplanes traveling at 500mph.
Do you see the issues here? How do you make up the extra 2000 miles of range from that launch space? Why was no missile detected by foreign powers who are constantly looking for that sort of launch? Why was no missile seen by anyone in downtown Seattle a few miles away?
I've spoken to military intelligence and many others about physics and reality of this situation and ALL of the people I interviewed said it was ridiculous.
20034619? ago
Well, if you are going to misrepresent the story, then of course your experts will think it is nonsense.
Ask them about firing a missile from a sub at a jet overhead (not at Korea).
Ask them what type of missile would be necessary (not necessarily the "normal" type of missile onboard a sub).
And ask them if that "right" type of missile would be possible to be launched from a sub.
At least, then you would be representing the correct (alleged) story.
Forget who else might or might not have seen or recorded it. Just start with the question: Is it possible?
20034729? ago
1) AF1 Was in Europe heading to NK, so it was not possible to be "overhead" as you say.
2) No missile can travel 5000 miles and connect to a flying airplane.
When I reduced the distance to 1000 miles, which wasn't possible during that time frame, it still was not possible for any current missile to be launched from a sub or land to connect with an airplane flying at 600mph 1000 miles away.
I even asked for brainstorming hypotheitcals and there were none.
20032807? ago
How about doing some more investigative research and find out what that missile's target/purpose actually was then? Or do you think the missle-shaped projectile with a fire tail was a helicopter as the MSM wants us to believe?
https://qmap.pub/read/2350
20032972? ago
I mean to be honest, there was never any MSM articles about the missile to begin with. So there's the first fallacy.
20033236? ago
Reporter? With a degree??
there were articles... you're a ridiculous attempt at a seemingly unbiased, outside reporter
20034294? ago
Please, link to any articles about a missile that launched off the coast of Seattle around that time period.
20048558? ago
https://q13fox.com/2018/06/11/missile-launch-lens-flare-mysterious-object-spotted-over-whidbey-island-raises-questions/
20033034? ago
https://q13fox.com/2018/06/11/missile-launch-lens-flare-mysterious-object-spotted-over-whidbey-island-raises-questions/
20032722? ago
Not more ridiculous than the official story of it being a helicopter. Where did you get the idea that the missile was targeting S Korea? My memory is that Q suggested it was intercepted near the Aleutian Islands.
20034921? ago
Sorry I said South Korea, I meant North Korea, that was my mistake.
20034416? ago
Please point to where Q said that. The common theory and response is that the missile was targeting AF1 as it landed in NK.
20035161? ago
Q did not specifically say. However on 12 June 2018 (Qmap drop 1472), Q posted a picture with Alaska vols (volcanoes) in the title. Alaska has volcanoes all along the aleutian islands, and some anon mapped the peaks and pinpointed where the photo was taken, but I don’t have the link to where that was posted anymore. If you open up picture so that it is bigger, you can make out what appears to be some black smoke in the sky out in the distance. Q did not explain this at the time, but later that day, Q posted the drops on the missile being fired off whidbey island. If I recall correctly, POTUS’s flight path took him over Alaska that day. Some of the speculation I read is that it was a hijacked or rogue sub that fired a nuclear missile either at Alaska or to a point where it would detonate along AF1’s flight path and the intent was to make it look like N Korea attacked us. In drops 1729 and 1730 Q said F-16’s intercepted the missile. If you go on Qmap, click the tag button and click the box for missiles, you can put this all together. Again, Q did not state this specifically state some of what I said. It was more or less implied based on the info he gave us.
Any other anons can feel free to chime in if they think I am wrong on any of this.
20035288? ago
Three things.
1) AF1 was never traveling over Alaska at that time, it was going from Europe to NK.
2) Do you think any entity on the planet could launch a nuclear missile without others detecting it and reacting? We see NK launch very small range missiles and immediately react to it. Do you think any entity could explode an ICBM on US soil without it being general knowledge?
3) When I spoke to the Air Force they told me there is no current air craft that can intercept that type or those types of missiles. We are just now trying to fit that into F-35's and it's too expensive and difficult: https://www.defensenews.com/air/2019/01/17/pentagon-considering-an-icbm-killing-weapon-for-the-f-35-but-can-it-afford-it/
20035640? ago
The whidbey island photo of the supposed missile launch was taken the morning of 9 June 2018. POTUS’s travel schedule from 2018 has him departing Quebec on 9 June with a destination of Singapore for the summit with Kim Jong Un starting on 12 June.
Yes, I agree with you. It’s also difficult for me to understand how this could have been pulled off or how anyone thought they could get away with it. However, I have looked closely at the whidbey island photo and I do not believe it could be a helicopter. So what else could be in the picture other than a missile.
On Jul 27th 2018, Q stated F-16’s intercepted the missile. An anon questioned whether an F-16 had this capability to which Q responded with “specialized weapons package CLAS-5”. I don’t know if F-16’s have this capability, this is just what Q said.
Are you trying to understand or debunk. I really don’t care if you agree with me or anyone else here. You’ve stated you are reporter attempting to understand Qanon in order to write a fair article, but it seems you have come here with the purpose of debunking.
20035752? ago
I am trying to understand.
According to the Air Force, F-35s are being looked at to see if they can take on those capabilities, the F-16's do not have that ability. There is no CLAS-5 special package I can find. That's not even how the classifications work according to the weapons experts I spoke to.
I went back and looked at the logs. AF1 departed Canada the evening of the 9th, the missile was supposedly launched the morning of the 9th. How slow does an ICBM travel?
To paint a fair picture I need to really understand the claims and the facts surrounding them. Just because Q says something doesn't make it a fact, Q has stated many times Disinfo is necessary and has posted provably false things. So, I'd like to understand some core beliefs and how they relate to the truth of the matter.
I believe knowing the actual facts is very important.
20032429? ago
I applaud you for doing actual real research (as opposed to the Qtard version of "research", which is reading far-right blogs and watching far-right youtube videos and then parroting them back).
All 3 of the things highlighted here are nonsense conspiracy theory delusions which collapse under scrutiny (as you've shown by consulting real-life experts).
But don't expect this to have any impact on the Q-followers - they are members of a twisted online personality cult and when confronted with any evidence or data that contradicts their ridiculous 8chan LARP, they just ignore it and throw it down the memory hole and pretend it never happened. They are truly the dumbest dregs of society and they are beyond help.
Well done for trying though.
20032515? ago
We even have these shills without day jobs that show up to spread their paid lines. Name another platform that has anonymous people spending hours replying to other anonymous people trying to convince them something isn't real. Think.. how many people would spend hours arguing against "Members of a twisted online personality cult" on an information board? Only a paid shill. Everyone else has real life to deal with.
20034441? ago
You can see this in Flat Earth forums all day long.
20032329? ago
And since you seem interested and numbers and science, find out what the probability of a random 15 letter jpg filename including upper and lower case and numbers coming out as DOITQ as the first 5 characters would be.
20032387? ago
You don't think the name of the file could've been altered before uploading it to 8Chan?
20032578? ago
Look how my comment gets -1 but the OPs comment saying something totally false gets his +1 lol yup gonna be a totally unbiased well researched article for sure. I can’t post the link someone should post it for the “reporter”
I remember someone hear did the odds of all possible characters for a jpeg filename and the odds of it coming up all caps first 5 letters were impossible.
20032631? ago
It's not an odds issue, you can actually manipulate the process.
20032518? ago
Trump tweeted the photo with DOITQ, so only he could have written that, which confirms that Q is real.
20032485? ago
It was a twitter auto-generated filename.
20032545? ago
It's not hard to manipulate that: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/images-md5-on-twitter-how-important-is-it.1055554/
20032481? ago
It was uploaded to twitter with that file name. You can still go the original tweet and see the file name with “DOITQ”.
20032552? ago
Yep, and that can be manipulated fairly easily: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/images-md5-on-twitter-how-important-is-it.1055554/
20032767? ago
I’m not tech savvy with how this could be done, but it only happened once and everyone’s thumbs in the picture were arranged In a Q shape. I still think it is one of many very interesting Q proofs.
20034454? ago
So, you didn't read the link ...
20032477? ago
It wasn’t from 8ch trump posted the photo. So either it’s totally random (huge probability) or someone named it that way. Just right click save as the image.
Just type DOITQ trump tweet or something and I get it. It’s the one where he says deplorables IE US!
20032558? ago
I know, it's easy to manipulate file name uploads to twitter: https://www.blackhatworld.com/seo/images-md5-on-twitter-how-important-is-it.1055554/
20032622? ago
just for shits and giggles connect the dots of the thumbs and tel me what shape u get (hint it’s a q) also look at the news paper in front of Trump’s giant cheese grin.
20032602? ago
So what are you claiming someone changed the filename after he uploaded?
20032623? ago
No, you can affect the algorithm before uploading.
20033939? ago
so you are saying the person on Trump’s team who uploaded the photo to twitter possibly manipulated the algorithm so that “DOITQ” would be in the file name? How is this not significant?
20032634? ago
It’s Trump’s Twitter though why would they change it to doitq
20032312? ago
Also the three points you seem to be focusing on all seem to be “debunks” if anything. You sure you were going for all angles?
For me the best proof was NK Deal made Iran next. Following Q drops in context has been a blessing. Watching him troll the media w the original summit “it’s back on/it’s off/ok it’s back on” mad earth me realize that Trump already had made he deal and was just keeping the MSM on their toes making them look uncredible as they bounced back and fourth.
20032274? ago
Adrenochrome: Haven’t you ever read/seen Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas?
The drug they consume is adrenochrome. I remember reading someone said like, the way people describe it being taken from a living subject is not true, something about it being synthesized from the adrenal gland, they seemed to know a lot about why taking it from a live human would actually not produce the desired compound.
20032454? ago
LOL at this delusional idiot trying to cite Fear and Loathing (a piece of gonzo journalism which overtly blends fact and fiction) as a credible source. The adrenochrome trope is utter conspiracy theory delusional nonsense.
20032493? ago
That’s just where I knew it from, and about as far as my knowledge of it goes unlike many other conspiracy theorists who probably can talk about it for 2 days straight LOL
Why are u here again? Reddit and SBBH r that way ^
20032364? ago
Near end of this film, Duke takes too much “andrenichrome” and has a nasty experience. Andrenichrome was a substance that Hunter S. Thompson made up for the book when he originally wrote it, and was kept in the script by Terry Gilliam. The name itself wasn’t new – Adrenochrome is an oxidation product of adrenaline, while Adrenochrome semicarbazone, also known as carbazochrome, is used as a medicinal drug to reduce capillary bleeding – however, neither compound is a hallucinogenic drug as portrayed in the book and film. After showing a rough cut of the film to a test audience, Gilliam was approached by a group of young men, one of which complimented him on the film in general, but said that his favorite scene was the andrenichrome scene. He said that he had used the drug, and that Gilliam had captured the effects perfectly. Gilliam didn’t have the heart to tell the kid that it was made up, and went along with his story.
20032435? ago
Tbh though like you said Q never mentioned it either, it's just another long standing theory. I’d talk about the Saudi purge, Las Vegas massacre, any number of shootings Q has called out as a false flag.
And do me a favor, at the bottom of your article (if ur real) Since you seem to take a lot of honor in producing facts and true unbiased story’s you should take some angle like “And ILL BE THE ONE who simply PUTS AN END to the theory and asks DJT the POTUS himself R U AWARE OF/DO U KNOW WHO IS Q? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DEMAND TO KNOW.”
20032487? ago
As I said in my last post, I've sent more than 40 requests to the White House asking that and I've gotten a few that say they don't comment on conspiracy theories and a lot of no comments.
20032503? ago
Sounds like you’e getting a bit larpy IMHO “We don’t comment on conspiracy theories” doesn’t sound like a response they would give..
20032641? ago
It's actually a direct response.
20032382? ago
Idk if that’s true I’ve seen plenty of sources which say the drug was real in the film.
20032430? ago
You can find interviews with Hunter talking about making it up.
20032270? ago
So what you've posted here seems to be trying to discredit. Am I missing something? Did you watch the Adrenochrome documentary? How long have you been hanging around here? There have been mountains of info and links on the subject.
Are you going to say that missile was obviously a helicopter too?
20034500? ago
I've spoken to several chemists and doctors about Adrenochrome, you can see my responses above. I've been speaking to people at Whitby island and haven't found evidence of a sub or chopper at the time.