They create problems so they can offer solutions. In other words, it's likely they created the fake post, thats what they do. Pointing out shills isn't dividing. You know all this though, don't you? Why else would you use their playbook?
This booklet lists tactics agents use to slow things down, foul things up, destroy the movement and keep tabs on activists.
It is the agent’s job to keep the activist from quitting such a group, thus keeping him/her under control.
In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist:
“You’re dividing the movement.”
[Here, I have added the psychological reasons as to WHY this maneuver works to control people]
This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of “dedication to the cause.” Because of their often declared dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the activist, he or she – being truly dedicated to the movement – becomes convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that “on purpose.” It’s amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing: “they did that unconsciously… they didn’t really mean it… I can help them by being forgiving and accepting ” and so on and so forth.
Funny how you claim "they" are trying to drive people to "their" sub. The fact is several subs have been targeted. Rather than look at it like the entire community on 3 subs are being targeted you seek to divide the Q subs.
By your logic former reddit mods and neonrevolt are posting fake Q subs to v/GA to create a crisis in that sub to drive people to v/TA or v/QRV.
Point is you are assuming who is responsible and you could be wrong. The fact that you assumed I am using a playbook for looking at it like ALL of us are being targeted makes me suspect your motives. Stop trying to divide.
You're either clamhurt, srayzie or shizy. Same narrative. Keep talking..
It's nit dividing the movement to point out who is responsible for the shilling, no matter how many times you say it. SBBH has openly admitted to the shilling and they help run GA.
Like you would admit it.. lol Regardless, you're still a narrative parrot. You know I'm doing nothing but defending this sub, I tell you all daily to just GTFO. You cant though, that's what's telling.
I have nothing to do with any of your respective dramas. I am just watching. You defend this sub against those you perceive as threats to it. Yet the three individuals you name do not attack this sub. @gabara@thebuddha and @Esotericshade are three users who attack this sub for different reasons. Two to troll, one to divide and undermine. There are others, of course. I followed Q through v/greatawakening because reddit disgusts me and 8ch is chaotic and full of LARPers. I am not saying that to discredit 8ch but merely to state that Q is a topic of peripheral interest to me and I am not motivated enough to wade through the shit. I I have never seen anything that supports the accusations you are making against @srayzie. And I know tons of goats who have posted to SBBH and are not involved in any grand conspiracy.
However the mods of v/TA, @neonrevolt, and several other prominent users from the Q migration have attacked Voat. They have disparaged and discredited this site on other forums, engaged in upvote farming, brigading of submissions, and have overtly threatened the free speech environment of the site at large. And that concerns me immensely. For I also am a steward. Did you not know?
My apologies, but that is how you seemed to be defining it based on your previous comments. And of course whether or not I like something has no impact on whether or not it is disinformation. I also noticed how you deliberately ignore upvote farming and submission brigading.
But yet the mods of v/TA, @neonrevolt, and many users of this sub that you defend have all engaged in those things. I say this not to create discord or division but as a statement of fact.
And I maintain that these fake Q posts are the work of outside agitators and not anyone involved with moderating any of the Q related subs on Voat. And based on this post I would say they are having their desired effect of dividing the community. Again I'm just here for the news on Q. If you all want to keep fighting over which sub Q likes best have at it.
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14964406? ago
There were fake Q posts being posted to GA as well. Stop trying to divide. Most people use all 3 Q subs. I know I do.
14964786? ago
They create problems so they can offer solutions. In other words, it's likely they created the fake post, thats what they do. Pointing out shills isn't dividing. You know all this though, don't you? Why else would you use their playbook?
14965195? ago
Funny how you claim "they" are trying to drive people to "their" sub. The fact is several subs have been targeted. Rather than look at it like the entire community on 3 subs are being targeted you seek to divide the Q subs.
By your logic former reddit mods and neonrevolt are posting fake Q subs to v/GA to create a crisis in that sub to drive people to v/TA or v/QRV.
Point is you are assuming who is responsible and you could be wrong. The fact that you assumed I am using a playbook for looking at it like ALL of us are being targeted makes me suspect your motives. Stop trying to divide.
14965389? ago
You're either clamhurt, srayzie or shizy. Same narrative. Keep talking..
It's nit dividing the movement to point out who is responsible for the shilling, no matter how many times you say it. SBBH has openly admitted to the shilling and they help run GA.
14968897? ago
Nope, nope, and nope.
3 strikes, you're out.
14969245? ago
Like you would admit it.. lol Regardless, you're still a narrative parrot. You know I'm doing nothing but defending this sub, I tell you all daily to just GTFO. You cant though, that's what's telling.
14969698? ago
I have nothing to do with any of your respective dramas. I am just watching. You defend this sub against those you perceive as threats to it. Yet the three individuals you name do not attack this sub. @gabara @thebuddha and @Esotericshade are three users who attack this sub for different reasons. Two to troll, one to divide and undermine. There are others, of course. I followed Q through v/greatawakening because reddit disgusts me and 8ch is chaotic and full of LARPers. I am not saying that to discredit 8ch but merely to state that Q is a topic of peripheral interest to me and I am not motivated enough to wade through the shit. I I have never seen anything that supports the accusations you are making against @srayzie. And I know tons of goats who have posted to SBBH and are not involved in any grand conspiracy.
However the mods of v/TA, @neonrevolt, and several other prominent users from the Q migration have attacked Voat. They have disparaged and discredited this site on other forums, engaged in upvote farming, brigading of submissions, and have overtly threatened the free speech environment of the site at large. And that concerns me immensely. For I also am a steward. Did you not know?
14969766? ago
Methinks you don't know the meaning of the word attack.
It does not mean, "Says stuff I don't like!"
14969811? ago
My apologies, but that is how you seemed to be defining it based on your previous comments. And of course whether or not I like something has no impact on whether or not it is disinformation. I also noticed how you deliberately ignore upvote farming and submission brigading.
14969918? ago
I ignore them because we agree that those are unacceptable and I'm not guilty of them.
They're shitty things to do. I do not do them.
14970071? ago
But yet the mods of v/TA, @neonrevolt, and many users of this sub that you defend have all engaged in those things. I say this not to create discord or division but as a statement of fact.
And I maintain that these fake Q posts are the work of outside agitators and not anyone involved with moderating any of the Q related subs on Voat. And based on this post I would say they are having their desired effect of dividing the community. Again I'm just here for the news on Q. If you all want to keep fighting over which sub Q likes best have at it.
14970133? ago
No, I am only defending myself. I'm not sure why you think I'm defending the rest. They can speak for themselves.
14970177? ago
and
Pick one.
14970252? ago
The second pretend quote can't even be remotely attributed to me. On numerous occasions, I've defended their right to be here and to speak freely.
You are attacking a strawman.
14970428? ago
Is that you neon?
14970409? ago
Follow up the chain. I was assuming I was having a convo with the same person.