Frankly, I see no reason to botch this place. It's a ship set adrift at this point, and the boatmen don't want to leave. So leave them adrift. You've got the culmination here of a whole vector that branched off from Reddit, summating the most skeptical, most ethno-nationalist, anti-government, conspiracy driven population perhaps anywhere on the fucking internet.
It makes no sense to turn this place into another MAGA club, or Q-ANON hangout.
I'm just thinking strategically, that you've gathered the tip of the spear, so to speak, of anti-establishment commentary and conversation. Why not continue to listen in? Again, nobody is trying to leave the drifting ship.
Better yet, make it a limited hangout. Reveal this info, and let people remain on the ship, but all the while feeling like they're being watched all of the time. That would make it more interesting now wouldn't it? It's a panopticon.
No reason? Voat requires you to surrender your anonymity logging in to view content now. It is a teetering structure that anybody who examines the engineering can see is vulnerable to control by a monolithic external entity. Look at Aether for an alternative:
Unauthorized has potential, but frankly, Socialgalactic operates like fucking Twitter. And neither Vox nor Owen have ever claimed that free speech is a good thing. You can guarantee the ban hammer will be heavy there. Imagine Vox Day modding at Voat. Jesus.
Socialgalactic is still in beta, requires payment to use, and is invite from Vox only. Yes they are both against free speech on their platforms, and so am i and so are you. The ban hammer is already heavy there, which keeps the quality of conversation higher. The rule is basically all gamma males, from Vox's book on social hierarchy, are not allowed to post because they are envious losers who think they are alphas and cause problems. Basically, don't accuse them of nefarious intent because you are on their site and shouldn't attack the host, or tell them what to do because you are not in charge and never will be.
Well holy shit, I hope you got a few shekels for that advertisement. I'm kidding, of course. But it's apparent you are fully on-board with the program. At ease soldier. Proceed.
It isn't our place. It won't ever be. I'm telling you, I've spent enough time exposed to "The Bears" to know that they aren't Voat. You may be right about the need for a temporary re-grouping point, but I don't think it is going to be there. It's obvious from even a cursory analysis of how Unauthorized is being developed that a community like Voat is not where it is headed.
Who cares? Large audience, receptive audience, and disruptive people get banned. 8pol worked when it did because it was well moderated and failed when it was poorly moderated. When there is too much disruptive posting from tel aviv, conversation slows, but it does teach good lessons. I'm just hoping to draw the coordinated attacks to Vox because he is rich and can fight back in a highly visible way, and Owen is pretty wealthy himself and making quite an income right now. Both Owen and Vox are much more uninformed than they think they are, but at least they are in the top 1% and have resources to wield. Owen still thinks that orthodox jews are good and calls them "urban Amish". He won't be thinking that for much longer if enough goats go there.
Haha. Voat overwhelming them is a humorous thought. Owen, for the most part, seems to nod to the fact there are things he doesn't know. On the other hand, Vox has virtually zero humility. Vox's determination of his own intelligence is drastically exaggerated. Vox's weapon is the group of autists he has surrounded himself with. I think Vox, coming from money as he does, also has some wealthy connections. I'm not saying they aren't in a good situation. It's just difficult to imagine what would happen if Voat even attempted to spill over there. As of right now, it's not even a possibility. As you point out, SG is invite only. I'm actually on it, and it's about what you'd expect. Around 2,000 posts daily at this point. Vox trying to build hype about his lawsuit against Patreon. Bears spamming links to Owen's streams with Crow777, and saying nonsensical things about space.
Now that I think about it, mixing in with flat-Earthers is probably a bad idea, but flat-Earth propaganda was spammed heavily last year on 8pol, voat, etc. I guess bears were the victims of that psyop. But access to that sympathetic wealth is pretty tempting.
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CIA-AgentLong ago
Just make sure you let me know where you guys go, I don't want to have to create notabug, phucks, and poal accounts if I can help it.
chirogonemd ago
Come on, Agent Long. Your game is just too funny.
Frankly, I see no reason to botch this place. It's a ship set adrift at this point, and the boatmen don't want to leave. So leave them adrift. You've got the culmination here of a whole vector that branched off from Reddit, summating the most skeptical, most ethno-nationalist, anti-government, conspiracy driven population perhaps anywhere on the fucking internet.
It makes no sense to turn this place into another MAGA club, or Q-ANON hangout.
I'm just thinking strategically, that you've gathered the tip of the spear, so to speak, of anti-establishment commentary and conversation. Why not continue to listen in? Again, nobody is trying to leave the drifting ship.
Better yet, make it a limited hangout. Reveal this info, and let people remain on the ship, but all the while feeling like they're being watched all of the time. That would make it more interesting now wouldn't it? It's a panopticon.
RiverWind ago
No reason? Voat requires you to surrender your anonymity logging in to view content now. It is a teetering structure that anybody who examines the engineering can see is vulnerable to control by a monolithic external entity. Look at Aether for an alternative:
https://getaether.net
TheManyHands ago
Unauthorized
Riot
chirogonemd ago
Unauthorized has potential, but frankly, Socialgalactic operates like fucking Twitter. And neither Vox nor Owen have ever claimed that free speech is a good thing. You can guarantee the ban hammer will be heavy there. Imagine Vox Day modding at Voat. Jesus.
TheManyHands ago
Socialgalactic is still in beta, requires payment to use, and is invite from Vox only. Yes they are both against free speech on their platforms, and so am i and so are you. The ban hammer is already heavy there, which keeps the quality of conversation higher. The rule is basically all gamma males, from Vox's book on social hierarchy, are not allowed to post because they are envious losers who think they are alphas and cause problems. Basically, don't accuse them of nefarious intent because you are on their site and shouldn't attack the host, or tell them what to do because you are not in charge and never will be.
chirogonemd ago
Well holy shit, I hope you got a few shekels for that advertisement. I'm kidding, of course. But it's apparent you are fully on-board with the program. At ease soldier. Proceed.
TheManyHands ago
me: We could bunker somewhere and regroup.
you: but that place isn't absolutely perfect.
me: It's good enough for now, just don't rock the boat.
you: shill!!!1
chirogonemd ago
It isn't our place. It won't ever be. I'm telling you, I've spent enough time exposed to "The Bears" to know that they aren't Voat. You may be right about the need for a temporary re-grouping point, but I don't think it is going to be there. It's obvious from even a cursory analysis of how Unauthorized is being developed that a community like Voat is not where it is headed.
Voat has it's own place, or it has no place.
TheManyHands ago
Who cares? Large audience, receptive audience, and disruptive people get banned. 8pol worked when it did because it was well moderated and failed when it was poorly moderated. When there is too much disruptive posting from tel aviv, conversation slows, but it does teach good lessons. I'm just hoping to draw the coordinated attacks to Vox because he is rich and can fight back in a highly visible way, and Owen is pretty wealthy himself and making quite an income right now. Both Owen and Vox are much more uninformed than they think they are, but at least they are in the top 1% and have resources to wield. Owen still thinks that orthodox jews are good and calls them "urban Amish". He won't be thinking that for much longer if enough goats go there.
chirogonemd ago
Haha. Voat overwhelming them is a humorous thought. Owen, for the most part, seems to nod to the fact there are things he doesn't know. On the other hand, Vox has virtually zero humility. Vox's determination of his own intelligence is drastically exaggerated. Vox's weapon is the group of autists he has surrounded himself with. I think Vox, coming from money as he does, also has some wealthy connections. I'm not saying they aren't in a good situation. It's just difficult to imagine what would happen if Voat even attempted to spill over there. As of right now, it's not even a possibility. As you point out, SG is invite only. I'm actually on it, and it's about what you'd expect. Around 2,000 posts daily at this point. Vox trying to build hype about his lawsuit against Patreon. Bears spamming links to Owen's streams with Crow777, and saying nonsensical things about space.
TheManyHands ago
Now that I think about it, mixing in with flat-Earthers is probably a bad idea, but flat-Earth propaganda was spammed heavily last year on 8pol, voat, etc. I guess bears were the victims of that psyop. But access to that sympathetic wealth is pretty tempting.
gabara ago
https://www.unsilencedvoice.com/
Reddit_traitor ago
look boomer memes everywhere.
CIA-AgentLong ago
Better than hackerforums, I guess.
gabara ago
It's new and still improving. Give it time.