Introduction
These past few months have been quite hectic for v/ProtectVoat. We have been criticised of being a weaponized sub that has tried to impose itself to other subs, both public and private. To be honest with you I do understand where that complain comes from and we also understand the limitations that we have to act upon scenarios that we try to denounce, such like power moderation.
Nonetheless, I did vowed that this sub approach will change and expressed my commitment in doing so. Which is why I am doing this post as one of the first steps we will take towards becoming an informative sub with the aim of keeping the population informed about dictatorial subs, new trends used by trolls and shills to disrupt the community and suspicious behavior that needs to be reported. Leaving the Voat's user base to deal with those things the best way that they see fit.
Regarding v/DeterrenceDispensed
I have noticed several recent post are denouncing one of the newest subs here after they were banned from Reddit or like I like to call it RedShit.I have taken my time to check the activity of the sub including the current removed posts and comments from said sub.
The sub's current owner/moderator is u/JStark1809. I have approached the user privately to have a conversation with him and explain to him the radical reaction from Voaters when dealing with people that comes from Reddit. However I do understand his displeasure of dealing with our inmune system.
Some of the posts deletions he has done do not seem unreasonable to me as they can be considered as forum sliding that is preventing the current subscribers of his subverse to look for the ones relevant to their work and how they can get the 3D models they want to print.
Obviously Voat stands by the fact that the subs shouldn't be used for profiteering and the content of the sub shouldn't be spamming their website and such, as the user agreement specifies. But the sub has a right to be here as it was censored from a different platform that is preventing people to have access to 3D printing guns.
The denunciations that the users have done here, though understandable also, need to have a little tolerance on the subs' position. I do give the benefit of the doubt to it's current moderator and extend him the advise, both privately and publicly, that comments shouldn't be deleted even if they content offensive words. However I also advised the user to make an specific rule about Pornographic content, specially material promoting pedophilia much like the comments done by u/FromTelAvivWithLove - https://voat.co/v/DeterrenceDispensed/about/log/comment
This user is an owner of the v/BEATLESTROLLARMY that is known to be conformed by several u/zyklon_b alts. I have consulted privately with other users and we all think that this is also an alt of this unscrupulous user that in his agenda to ignite a fire on Voat hurt the platform with his actions. He denied in the past to be the one sharing pornographic material, including loli, on the subverse v/QVR. Yet this alleged alt of his shows of what he is capable of.
According to u/MadWorld, u/zyklon_b has also engaged in what I can only describe as upvote farming/vote manipulation: https://voat.co/v/VoatThugs/3286115/19259781 and I quote:
And Voat would not have survived without ZB's upvote support. Did you know that he casually upvotes half of Voat's daily submissions? Now factor in his alts. I have come to believe that he is paid to be here, a sort of professional internet troll that gets paid for providing such services to his clients...
@MadWorld the image there is no longer available but if you could repost it on Catbox.moe so everyone can see it I would appreciate it.
Conclusion
u/JStark1809, please pardon any misunderstanding. Please make rules that can only be interpreted literally and enforced effectively and objectively to defend your sub from trolls.
To Voat's user base and subscribers of v/ProtectVoat, please try to make your denunciations in the proper form with detailed evidence and avoid making duplicate posts about them. If one is already existing please share the information on the one that previously existed in order for us to gather more information and that is easier for the rest of us to find all relevant information.
u/JStark1809, this is my official welcoming to Voat. Enjoy yourself here. So in the best expression of our jargon, welcome niggerfaggotkike.
MadWorld ago
Not sure why, but the image is still available here
sguevar ago
I get this site cannot be reached and in the preview here I get the image of the Goat with the question marks.
kneo24 ago
I'm seeing the image just fine on my end.
sguevar ago
(O.O) dang.... why* can't I?
MadWorld ago
It is possible that the IP you were using may have been blocked by the site. Can you change to a different IP address?
sguevar ago
I did, I was trying to access it from my work place. Thanks I accessed it from my house and I was able to see the image.
voatsecurityguard ago
fuck those nigger-faggots. they need to learn how this place works... need to CCP-farm a few accounts so we can keep spamming their little sub and make them conform to our morals and values... or leave.
70times7 ago
You need a hobby mate.
sguevar ago
Well I have plenty of them to be honest. However one of them is my commitment with Voat and this subverse.
Enjoy your day.
70times7 ago
Ya know voat is 90% tavistock bots/shills right?
Its a fun place sure, but its nothing that needs to be protected.
Bears arent the only ones who love honey.
sguevar ago
Your opinion.
Your opinion
70times7 ago
snort.
It aint just a river in egypt mate.
sguevar ago
Well, hope you have a good day.
70times7 ago
Would have a better day if you pulled your head out of the sand.
You really think the
shillsaccounts like conspirologist, syriansfuckcorpses, grace8, godsangell, treeditfirst and the others are here to make voat a wonderful place?Mate, take off the blinders.
sguevar ago
u/syriansfuckcorpses is no shill, at least I haven't seen any indications of that from my interactions with him.
He has made a few posts that are questionable I guess, I can only speak for the one I saw about Abe Lincoln being murdered by the FED a while back however I did correct his anachronism then.
The rest I acknowledge that are quite questionable and tend to farm SCP and CCP.
I maintain a reasonable doubt on many users and I maintain trust of some others. But I won't go ahead and say that this site is full of bots like you are saying. Nor will I say that most of Voat's user base is disingenuous as you imply.
So in there we can only agree to disagree.
I don't see how me not agreeing with your premise prevents you from having a better day or that I have my head stuck in the sand.
Have a good one.
70times7 ago
Would have a better one if you took off the blinders.
The site is literally infested with bots. And yeah mate, the controllers of the bots can make small talk if needed. That doesnt mean they arent fully automated accounts.
They do the same nonsense on sites like godlikeproductions.com and others. Post after post after post, playing both sides of an issue.
Same people/bots/team. The one
shilltotally legit human user conspirologist even uses the same avatar on both sites.Ill have a good day as you insist, if you at least look with a new set of eyes at the issue.
Again, this is a fun place. But its nothing as it appears.
sguevar ago
(G.G) so much dependence on acknowledgement...
I never said there weren't bots on the site. I said I disagree with your premise that most of Voat user base is.
So again, have a good one.
70times7 ago
Um, your the one insisting I have a nice day. So I purposed a deal.
You wake up, and ill have a .0000001% better day.
Fair deal.
sguevar ago
Now this is laughable.
70times7 ago
Ok, .0000002%.
Im flexable.