I know many of you don't like my postings regarding my faith and many of you don't like me perse for being so obnoxious to you regarding it, and yet I have managed to keep a more open mind than those that criticise my faith for leaving their choices between them and God.
That said, I have always looked for a more objective approach on many conflicts I have seen here at Voat and I have always tried to defend those that I think deserve to be, specially under false accusations thrown by others. I may not know them face to face but I have come to appreciate their online persona in a personal level.
I respect many of you and appreciate your efforts in keeping this community growing through your respective subverses, in keeping this community safe with denouncing the ill intentions of other users that come here to attack our credibility and our freedom to express ourselves. But always with proofs and evidence of said matters.
I may not like certain users here, but I will not look to accuse them of any wrong doing to the community for expressing their own views. And we all have a right to say it as well as to express our opinion on other users' views.
I have always argued against the use of alts for it leads to dishonest behavior. I will always be against using them even when myself have been falsely accused of using alts as a way to discredit my views and opinions. That said, I know for a fact that those that tend to throw said tantrums at me are basically projecting what they are doing themselves. Why? Because differently to what I have done, they are unable to prove such accusation.
There is no proof of such thing, at least with me and the admin of this site can investigate and see that is the case. The only thing that he can see is that my IP addresses change due to work related matters (VPN at work), my phone and my computer at home.
So as I once said to someone here that accused me of engaging in what he probably was doing: The one that owes nothing, fears nothing.
I am tired of watching this drama getting out of hand. Which drama you may ask? Well I am talking about the drama between v/GreatAwakening, v/SBBH and even the one created by our own admin @Puttitout regarding his builder and destroyer posts that have come to not do what he intended. As while he recognizes certain builders of this site, one of which I am reluctant to see as a builder as he passes his time to delete posts and comments to avoid being seen as the full of shit he is and to create a manipulative online persona with ill intentions, he argues that those that downvoted his post are considered destroyers themselves for downvoting it. Well my dear admin, I publicly admit that I downvoted your post for such implication you did and because of the fact that I disagree with at least one of your recognitions there. If for that you consider me a destroyer, then so be it. But I honestly couldn't care less your consideration on said matter.
Now this doesn't mean that I do not appreciate the effort that you put in this site Puttitout. But even when I do so, I will still keep a critical eye to your labour because it has to be put on check sometimes. This so your labour can improve and benefit the community in a whole as you have intended many times but in some occasions have failed to do so.
No one is perfect and no one can pursue perfection, we can only strive to be the best we can be in hope to see the positive results of our actions not for our own gain but for the gain of Voat itself as a community.
My call for a review on a certain ban that I feel in me happen unjustly and unjustified have not been answered. u/Obrez doesn't strike me as an ill intended user. He doesn't strike me either as a user that cares for having alts and hence I do have to put a respectful demand on the evidence that justifies his ban or that he is reinstated to Voat's community and the vote manipulation badge removed from his profile.
I have learned that even if many of you do not hold dear my faith in your side you know that I wish you no ill and you have come to respect me as I have come to respect you. This is because I am no judge of anyone and will never be. When I share the Word of God know that my intention is not to judge you but if you feel that I am, know that I am not. Your judge, to my eyes will be God and only God, hence His Word can pass judgement to you. My duty is to defend it and share It's truth. Your choices are yours only and I will not impose anything differently for I leave them between you and God.
I will however express my disappointing on some users that I thought wouldn't engage in the use of alts and yet new evidence has come forward showing that they do. I will obviously leave the choice to said users if they want to keep on using them or not, but I will strongly recommend that the use of alts doesn't do them any good as they attack their own credibility by having them.
I will defend SBBH of accusations that they are cancer to Voat because I know they are not. I may not agree with some of their owners but I do not see them as a cancer subverse for I think that a good ole' trolling is necessary to strengthen the skin of some Voat users that are too delicate and new users for that matter.
I will defend GreatAwakening because they have a right to manage their sub as they see fit respecting of course the global rules of Voat and hence applying bans when they are justified and and with evidence of the matter: Repeat disrespect to their sub rules and Voat's rules also.
So I do defend their right to defend themselves from the effort of some of the SBBH to attack them. As I defend the right of the SBBH community to say they don't respect them in their own sub. Both sides need to learn some restraint in the way they are engaging this deal and know that in the end they are due to coexist in Voat's community.
In conclusion I propose that from now on, whether on private or public subverses when a ban is going to be applied it has to be done with a previous post showing the evidence that justify said ban:
- The repetition of the offenses.
- The sending of warnings of cease and desist.
- All links and screenshots must be archived to prevent editing or deletion from the users proven to engage in ill behavior that earned their ban.
- A user accused of said behavior has also a right to contest it so an open channel must be opened for the appeal and a promptive response must be given within a certain period - 24 to 48 business hours.
This must also be applied to Voat's global bans. So, Puttitout, if you find this to be way too much work for you please find users that you know that will be objective and you trust that can assist you on said matter so this can be handle better and you can decentralize the banning process.
Is time to put this to rest and move on.
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ksjdfkas878345 ago
I have to use alts because of "the builder" kevdud goon squad. if you notice 95% of what he says about me if flat out made up.
basically posting on protectvoat is no different than posting on sbbh, kevdud was a owner there for awhile, and has been previously. and sbbh defends him. you do the math
just one example:
https://voat.co/v/identitarian <----- was brigaded because they didnt like mod. and had zero control
https://voat.co/v/identitarians <--- mirror verse AND look WHO is modding it, non other than @kevdude
protectvoat along with "the builder" kevdud has brigaded multiple users, and subverses. Created mirrored (for lack of better terms) verses and shitpost and spam the other. @puutitout allows this
Hey putt.... this account alone has -143 can you please bann them for me?
-dial
sguevar ago
dial I really can care less about the denunciations you are doing here. Why?
Because you were proven to use alts to upvote/downvote brigade yourself and others in order to manipulate Voat's community against @kevdude and others.
Your claim that you have to use alts because of many us not liking your buillshit is simply preposterous and childish to say the least.
So I think I would quote myself for saying to you "fuck off".
ksjdfkas878345 ago
this flat out false, see this is manip kevdude is. 95% of the shit he says about me completely made up. I'm an open book and right God, I have fear in my actions as derived from truth and reason. But he and putt just makes shit up, instead of asking me.
I've claimed a lot of crap on dial, enough to land 5 life time prison sentences. Does this means it is true? @puttitout
here is a couple comment replies that explains a lot
enjoy your morning
https://voat.co/v/ShitSrayzieSays/3244207/18852853
https://voat.co/v/ProtectVoat/3244180/18852368
https://youtu.be/buE7mWpBhtQ
sguevar ago
likewise.
ksjdfkas878345 ago
i made some edits, it will probably make more sense (people call it cheese speak) ..... I typo alot as I just chicken pek as fast as I can and skip words all the time etc., sry
https://youtu.be/YysQxXSWWm8