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MadWorld ago

Not really sure who to ping... @shadow332 @Rotteuxx @heygeorge @Mumbleberry @Cynabuns, you may be interested in this submission. Feel free to ping others.

shadow332 ago

Thanks for pinging, ever so often I'll post something and if someone points out it's wrong info, I will delete the post. I did this yesterday from -what I thought was great post- someone sent me and it was pointed out by a user that was some info or a pic from 2011, I said the truth, apologized, and deleted it. I only got back from work to see that this SchwazaRifleCoffeeCo with whom you had this friendly exchange here made about 20 alts, downvoted the thread and used th exact same obnoxious language accusing me of being a fag, idiot, jewish and shill. This is probably freshmeat/9-11 and friends.

I don't know what their main agenda is but I know they often attack legit users. That's why he's very afraid of getting doxxed. They use the tactic of calling everyone a shill and a jew. So I wouldn't rely on them to help you out.

As far as this information goes, it's very telling. I will have a closer look at these accounts.

MadWorld ago

Thanks for pinging, ever so often I'll post something and if someone points out it's wrong info, I will delete the post. I did this yesterday from -what I thought was great post- someone sent me and it was pointed out by a user that was some info or a pic from 2011, I said the truth, apologized, and deleted it.

You own up to your mistake, that is an admirable attitude!! I like that in a person's character! I think it would also be helpful if you edit your submissions to let everyone know what mistake was made. It probably is more valuable, to clearly state the mistake/misinformation for future references. Say you made a submission but found out to be fake news or disinfo. If you edited the submission body, to clearly point out the issue, others would understand it. If a shill or disinfo agent tried to post a similar submission, for his own agenda, other users would be able to search previous submissions and dismantle the fake news. That is something worth considering.

I only got back from work to see that this SchwazaRifleCoffeeCo with whom you had this friendly exchange here made about 20 alts, downvoted the thread and used th exact same obnoxious language accusing me of being a fag, idiot, jewish and shill. This is probably freshmeat/9-11 and friends.

I don't know what their main agenda is but I know they often attack legit users. That's why he's very afraid of getting doxxed. They use the tactic of calling everyone a shill and a jew. So I wouldn't rely on them to help you out.

XD He called me a kike in another thread. So there is that.

As far as this information goes, it's very telling. All the domains sound the same, as if made by a "convervative MSM buzz word generatior".

Did not know they use such tool to come up with new domain names. So I guess it is quite possible that the contents were just repackaging of MSM news.

shadow332 ago

If a shill or disinfo agent tried to post a similar submission, for his own agenda, other users would be able to search previous submissions and dismantle the fake news. That is something worth considering.

You're right. I've deleted the posts because I don't want people reading it at all. Sometimes people just scan the info, or just the titles, or don't read the posts entirely and then think it's actual news. But what I can do now is edit the title (that wasn't possible before recently and was the main reason for me deleting it). But now I can add something like (FAKE NEWS) in the title and then add an edit in the description in the top before people continue reading. And like you said, this makes an entirely different post, it's one to point out fake news. I like it and since we have the edit title feature now, I will start doing that. Thanks for the advice!

Did not know they use such tool to come up with new domain names

I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised. You might want to have a look at things like this:

I made a post here where I happened to be reading a news article I thought would interesting to share on voat and noticed something fishy about the name, the person and the story. Like we talked about above, I made the post about how this is a fake story most likely generated entirely by AI. Here's a post I made about computer-generated people which would explain where fake news stories get their imaginary faces.

Here's another point to ponder: When I post material I think is interesting, if I have the time, I try to not just spam a story but make it a discussion post, so I post the article and then talk about what is being said in the article, adding my own opinion. A fake user or bot won't do such a thing. I think even a shill would not waste that much time pointing things like that out. I made an actual test of this by posting a story about a HOLOCAUSTTM victim, then I tested the waters by posting a shitload of points which shows this is plainly bullshit. I rebutted the claims the people who push the HOLOCAUSTTM make. Normally, in other forums where the JIDF is present, they spam a narrative with the same counterarguments and same vicious insulting, name-calling tactics. They are easy to spot. However, the few times I've tried this out, there is no real response to it. So there's that.

Your research is definitely on to something. If there are shills, bots, spammers, it will be in the form you have discovered. Accounts posting obscure websites with no personal commentary. Then you know you are not dealing with a genuine person.

EDIT: I want to add though that shills might be lurking in places I don't frequent, like the Q subs. We'd need to find out more from the others.

MadWorld ago

The one about AI generated fake news was quite amusing: https://voat.co/v/whatever/2994446.

In general, very well said!! In my opinion, you are one of those top researches on Voat. I enjoying your contents here, knowing that the materials presented are reliable. That extra effort you put into your submissions, is MUCH appreciated!! Thanks!

I want to add though that shills might be lurking in places I don't frequent, like the Q subs. We'd need to find out more from the others.

For the anon subverses, the most we can do is probably dumping those domain names to see if there are odd ones standing out from the rest. It would be easier if we could list the domain stats under https://voat.co/discover/domains. So that everyone could browse and evaluate without digging through a pool of usernames.

shadow332 ago

Hey thanks. I like to write in my free time but I'd never be good enough to write professionally!

knowing that the materials presented are reliable

Like I said, sometimes I don't have the time to fact check everything to the very end, but I appreciate when others point it out for me.

Yea, those anon subs, I have mixed feelings about them. But that's a good suggestion re checking any domain names that stand out. I wish you lots of luck on this endeavor. If you need any help I'm sure there are plenty of people here to give you advice and additional info. I'm interested to see more of what you uncover.