Somthing that's struck me is the big overreprensention of Jewish wives to Soviet politicians and NKVD officers. The Jews themselves had of course Jewish wives but also lots of the non-Jews were married to Jewish women. Non-Jews like Dzerzinsky, Molotov, Bukharin, Voroshilov, Rykov, Kirov, Yezhov etc were married to Jews.
Stalin wasn't as far as I know married to any Jew but he was fond of Jewish women. According to Beria's son his father made notes of Stalin's Jewish mistresses.
By the way, one of he leaders of the Communist Party in the USA, Earl Browder, also came back from Moscow with a Jewish wife.
Were they "Esthers"? Sounds far-fetched but let's say that they at least were clearly overrepresented.
By orders of the Fuhrer all Soviet inhabitants are to be processed in camps for general labor. Failure to comply will result in termination. The leader's will is irrevocable and relentless.
What was there in that post that was compelling enough to respond to? It mostly just restated what you'd already said about Wilton. I presented lists of the actual Communist Party leadership in both party and state. They're not consistent with this counterintuitive idea that a 1% demographic dominated 80-90% of the leadership posts, much less explain the red guards or red army. Or the ordinary party membership for that matter. These bodies were overwhelmingly gentile.
Your sources are no doubt no better than mine. Your post history is suspect: you don't hope to arrive at the truth: you want to push your argument. I posted multiple new documents, you evade them. Wilton is a much better source than you and everyone on voat should realize that. I found a likely shill source document this dude is using without citing it.
One source of relevance was from marxists.org. It's a list of the Central Committee leadership in 1917. It lists like 26 people. Specific people, verifiable names, widely known, or readily known and easily determined to have existed anyway. Of those 26 like 8 were Jews. More or less depending on how much one cares to count a half Jew or whatever here or there depending on questions over the individual's ethnicity.
I also posted the list from Wiki of what is regarded as the first Soviet government, the Council of People's Commissars. There are like 16 people on it. There is one known Jew there, Trotsky.
Those things alone are enough, in my judgment, to discount the idea that a 1% demographic held about 85% of the leadership posts. But there is also statistical probabilities of a 1% population group coming in that high. Let's just say that going in one should view the likelihood as not very likely - and operate from the premise that it is so high that the assumption should be that it's a pretty high barrier to overcome. So it needs a lot of hard proof.
As I noted on the other thread, there are issues with confirming the existence of some people on Wilton's list, which I don't think you've looked into with any depth, but at any rate we know specifically who occupied the leading posts in party and state. And it contradicts this 1% occupying 90% narrative.
Images are not a good substitute for bean counting, hard numbers. Digging through politburos is mostly what needs to be done here if one wants to establish the actual numerical realities. And I've done the essentials of that with party and state. You though don't seem interested in looking through your source Wilton, on the same task, to try and authenticate all those people on his list, much less explain how it jives with the lists I've provided. But believe what you want.
Not exactly, no. As we see here it describes the Third International, which was the Comintern, as ruling Russia. That isn't accurate. In the 1930s Jews were 1-2% of the population yet it says the following about it and then cites an astronomical number of unnamed Jews and unnamed Russians and an American black in 1918. Who were these people? Why should we prefer this over the specific figures cited in the lists I've provided?
So thorough was the mass liquidation of all but hewers of wood and drawers of water in Russia, that this Jewish grip remained unaltered. Dr. Fahey tells us that in 1935 the Central Executive of the Third international, which ruled Russia
"consisted of 59 men, of which 56 were Jews. The other three, including Stalin, were married to Jewesses. Of 17 principal Soviet ambassadors, 4 were Jews." (Rulers of Russia, pages 8 and 9.)
The Rev. George Simons, who was Superintendent of the Methodist Episcopal Church in St. Petersburg from 1907 to October 1918, appeared before a Committee of the United States Senate on the 12th February, 1919, and gave them a report of his personal knowledge of the happenings in Russia up to the time he left. Dr. Fahey quotes him as saying during this evidence:
"In December, 1918, out of 388 members of the revolutionary government, only 16 happened to be real Russians; all the rest were Jews with the exception of one U.S. Negro. Two hundred and sixty-five of the Jews come from the Lower East Side of New York."
Haven't read that. And it is long enough to look like a pamphlet or some such. Why don't you just summarize whatever it is in it you think will convince me or paste the relevant materials?
They and their minions. Their leadership was heavy on the vindictive jew side. Gulag archipelago goes into the nvkd secret police, looting of the churcjes, toutture to obtain victims gold and gulags. 5 or 1 0 year terms. Genocide of ukraine.
All on Leon Brontsky, his jew buds and the bankers of new amsterdam and londinium. All rich jews who support nwo, even back then in its infancy.
Yes, because as we all know if you have ten people in a room within three feet of a Jew the brain waves from the yid present penetrates the tin foil of the goys and makes them all work for him. They don't have interests or motivations of their own or anything. They are Jewish pawns.
Business end of a banker paid for rifle works too. Purging the army of officers to assert full contol is great, until you have to fight. Nothing better than losing millions of soldiers and tanks and relying on uncle sam for all trucks and machined tanks parts for the war.
The us supported them, faggot leaders fooled them real good. Check roosevelts control, er, iron grip on the press. Fooled.
Kattie ago
Somthing that's struck me is the big overreprensention of Jewish wives to Soviet politicians and NKVD officers. The Jews themselves had of course Jewish wives but also lots of the non-Jews were married to Jewish women. Non-Jews like Dzerzinsky, Molotov, Bukharin, Voroshilov, Rykov, Kirov, Yezhov etc were married to Jews.
Stalin wasn't as far as I know married to any Jew but he was fond of Jewish women. According to Beria's son his father made notes of Stalin's Jewish mistresses.
By the way, one of he leaders of the Communist Party in the USA, Earl Browder, also came back from Moscow with a Jewish wife.
Were they "Esthers"? Sounds far-fetched but let's say that they at least were clearly overrepresented.
743v ago
By orders of the Fuhrer all Soviet inhabitants are to be processed in camps for general labor. Failure to comply will result in termination. The leader's will is irrevocable and relentless.
brandnewset ago
Yur fucking kidding or a shill. Leaning towards shill.
Jews were all the rage, politicts, police, prisons, military political officers, all fleecing and genociding all the tribes.
This should be common knowledge.
poopdawg15 ago
this is the comment I left for that guy yesterday that he didn't respond to. https://voat.co/v/politics/3786455/23554816
brandnewset ago
Nice. (((Who))) is behind the curtain, Dorthy.
Kek. For like 2800 years. Check the pdf, The Great Jewish Mask. Very inciteful.
Avail on historyreviewed.com, great site for info
Joe_McCarthy ago
What was there in that post that was compelling enough to respond to? It mostly just restated what you'd already said about Wilton. I presented lists of the actual Communist Party leadership in both party and state. They're not consistent with this counterintuitive idea that a 1% demographic dominated 80-90% of the leadership posts, much less explain the red guards or red army. Or the ordinary party membership for that matter. These bodies were overwhelmingly gentile.
poopdawg15 ago
Your sources are no doubt no better than mine. Your post history is suspect: you don't hope to arrive at the truth: you want to push your argument. I posted multiple new documents, you evade them. Wilton is a much better source than you and everyone on voat should realize that. I found a likely shill source document this dude is using without citing it.
Joe_McCarthy ago
I'm not the source. My sources are.
One source of relevance was from marxists.org. It's a list of the Central Committee leadership in 1917. It lists like 26 people. Specific people, verifiable names, widely known, or readily known and easily determined to have existed anyway. Of those 26 like 8 were Jews. More or less depending on how much one cares to count a half Jew or whatever here or there depending on questions over the individual's ethnicity.
I also posted the list from Wiki of what is regarded as the first Soviet government, the Council of People's Commissars. There are like 16 people on it. There is one known Jew there, Trotsky.
Those things alone are enough, in my judgment, to discount the idea that a 1% demographic held about 85% of the leadership posts. But there is also statistical probabilities of a 1% population group coming in that high. Let's just say that going in one should view the likelihood as not very likely - and operate from the premise that it is so high that the assumption should be that it's a pretty high barrier to overcome. So it needs a lot of hard proof.
As I noted on the other thread, there are issues with confirming the existence of some people on Wilton's list, which I don't think you've looked into with any depth, but at any rate we know specifically who occupied the leading posts in party and state. And it contradicts this 1% occupying 90% narrative.
poopdawg15 ago
Once again your remarks are not persuasive and it seems quite true that you are not an in earnest researcher. Even your like tasking me with researching into long dead Bolsheviks the existence of whom would not be thoroughly documented says kike shill. Just this image is weightier evidence than anything you have shown: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iD-zGosnQQM/UuEznq8SC0I/AAAAAAAAGTI/doYLKcoEsbo/s1600/jew+COMMISSARS+HIJACKING+of+RUSSIAN,+Tsarist+Chrstian+empire+VT+JD+jan+2014.jpg
Joe_McCarthy ago
Images are not a good substitute for bean counting, hard numbers. Digging through politburos is mostly what needs to be done here if one wants to establish the actual numerical realities. And I've done the essentials of that with party and state. You though don't seem interested in looking through your source Wilton, on the same task, to try and authenticate all those people on his list, much less explain how it jives with the lists I've provided. But believe what you want.
poopdawg15 ago
This document is sure to convince you. The Nameless War, chapter 3. http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/wars/nameless/3.shtml
Joe_McCarthy ago
Not exactly, no. As we see here it describes the Third International, which was the Comintern, as ruling Russia. That isn't accurate. In the 1930s Jews were 1-2% of the population yet it says the following about it and then cites an astronomical number of unnamed Jews and unnamed Russians and an American black in 1918. Who were these people? Why should we prefer this over the specific figures cited in the lists I've provided?
So thorough was the mass liquidation of all but hewers of wood and drawers of water in Russia, that this Jewish grip remained unaltered. Dr. Fahey tells us that in 1935 the Central Executive of the Third international, which ruled Russia
"consisted of 59 men, of which 56 were Jews. The other three, including Stalin, were married to Jewesses. Of 17 principal Soviet ambassadors, 4 were Jews." (Rulers of Russia, pages 8 and 9.)
The Rev. George Simons, who was Superintendent of the Methodist Episcopal Church in St. Petersburg from 1907 to October 1918, appeared before a Committee of the United States Senate on the 12th February, 1919, and gave them a report of his personal knowledge of the happenings in Russia up to the time he left. Dr. Fahey quotes him as saying during this evidence:
"In December, 1918, out of 388 members of the revolutionary government, only 16 happened to be real Russians; all the rest were Jews with the exception of one U.S. Negro. Two hundred and sixty-five of the Jews come from the Lower East Side of New York."
poopdawg15 ago
Certainly Pitt-Rivers will convince you. https://archive.org/details/TheWorldSignificanceOfTheRussianRevolution/mode/2up
Joe_McCarthy ago
Haven't read that. And it is long enough to look like a pamphlet or some such. Why don't you just summarize whatever it is in it you think will convince me or paste the relevant materials?
poopdawg15 ago
Here's one more thing I had. https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2020/03/09/leather-jacketed-coke-snorting-jews-in-the-soviet-secret-police-torturing-raping-and-killing-gentiles-the-evidence/
I'm sure you're convinced by now
poopdawg15 ago
Just found this one. https://media.8kun.top/file_store/03bd45a8ae2e4cfbb47dc093f0e2a0f15705d56da85841c6672ad600ba96f055.webm
Joe_McCarthy ago
Yeah. 1% of the population totally manned the government, secret police, camp guards, and mailmen.
brandnewset ago
They and their minions. Their leadership was heavy on the vindictive jew side. Gulag archipelago goes into the nvkd secret police, looting of the churcjes, toutture to obtain victims gold and gulags. 5 or 1 0 year terms. Genocide of ukraine.
All on Leon Brontsky, his jew buds and the bankers of new amsterdam and londinium. All rich jews who support nwo, even back then in its infancy.
Facts are facts man.
Joe_McCarthy ago
They and their minions.
Yes, because as we all know if you have ten people in a room within three feet of a Jew the brain waves from the yid present penetrates the tin foil of the goys and makes them all work for him. They don't have interests or motivations of their own or anything. They are Jewish pawns.
brandnewset ago
Business end of a banker paid for rifle works too. Purging the army of officers to assert full contol is great, until you have to fight. Nothing better than losing millions of soldiers and tanks and relying on uncle sam for all trucks and machined tanks parts for the war.
The us supported them, faggot leaders fooled them real good. Check roosevelts control, er, iron grip on the press. Fooled.
Joe_McCarthy ago
One of the all time great discussions in the history of VNN Forum.