There are MANY ARTICLES on this subject, and even YOU TUBE videos. You can check them out and see there is more than one source on this information.
HERE IS A SAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENCES IN FREQUENCIES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwAUv-IotC0
"This article details events in MUSICAL HISTORY that are central to understanding and treating modern psychopathology, social aggression, POLITICAL CORRUPTION, genetic dysfunction, and cross-cultural degeneration of TRADITIONAL VALUES risking life on earth.
This history concerns A=440Hz "standard tuning," and the ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION'S military commercialization of music.
Contrary to popular opinion, the most powerful "hard" science influencing society, politics, and economics is behavioral science.
This generally neglected fact enables advertising agencies, social engineers, marketing firms, and the PERSUASIVE MEDIA, to direct people, like CATTLE, most profitably.
A flock of sheep, for example, according to the Merck Veterinary Manual, responds synchronously to stimuli, such as approaching dogs or humans, due to a special set of nerve cells that fire electrically causing the release of stress hormones associated with the flight response and herd behavior.
Malcolm Gladwell's, The Tipping Point: How Little Things Can Make a Big Difference, cites social examples of the small levels or percentages of a total population required to act, "at which the momentum for change becomes unstoppable" for the entire social network.
There have been many unexplained "mass hysteria" episodes recorded besides the War of the Worlds fright that was broadcast by CBS Radio and narrated by Orson Welles, on October 30, 1938.
Robert E. Bartholomew called a related public health crisis, "Occupational Mass Psychogenic Illness" in Transcultural Psychiatry.
Wessely added the warning that this bizarre herd behavior impacting health and well-being reflects poorly on our mass mindset inspired by the terroristic media.
He wrote:
"It is easy to lose sight of the dynamic, protean [varied] nature of mass sociogenic illness and its historical and transcultural manifestations, which mirror popular social and cultural preoccupations that define each era and reflect unique social beliefs about the nature of the world."
Throughout history there have been PERSONS OF WEALTH and POWER engaged in war-making, profiteering, and various methods of population control.
In 1770, for instance, Mayer Amschel Bauer (a.k.a., ROTHSCHILD) developed plans for the creation of the Illuminati, advancing the mission of global domination through a network of central banks that his family and their silent partners controlled.
Many reputable authors track today's degenerative socioeconomic trends, and aboriginal genocides, to the Illuminati's powerful influence administered through private organizations controlling multi-national corporations and governments (i.e., secret societies and governing councils, such as the Council on Foreign Relations).
THE ROCKEFELLER FOUNDATION AND MILITARY MUSIC
In 1913, the Rothschilds set up their third and current central bank in America, the Federal Reserve Bank, with the help of their agents J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller, whose investments in American industry had been Rothschild-financed since 1865.
Between World Wars I and II, accelerating during the 1930s, scientific studies in musical frequencies best suited for war-making were funded by the Rothschild-Rockefeller alliance, represented by the Rockefeller Foundation and U.S. Navy.
A major objective of this war, and profitable population control, research was to determine the musical factors capable of producing psychopathology, emotional distress, and "mass hysteria."
Academically directed by grants provided by the Rockefeller Foundation, in concert with the U.S. Navy and National Defense Research Council according to the foundation's archives, acoustic energy researchers, including Harold Burris-Meyer, an audio engineer and drama instructor at New Jersey's Stevens Institute of Technology, were commissioned.
Burris-Meyer is best known for providing consulting services to the Muzak Corporation,
"which used his expertise to optimize sound installations in factories so that emotional motivation of workers achieved through music would not be adversely effected by factory noise...,"
.wrote James Tobias, a Professor of English at the Univ. of Calif.
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_consciousscience26.htm
VoterinVegas ago
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/mark-taylor-satans-frequency-is-making-people-unable-to-see-how-god-is-using-trump-to-save-america/
Rocky_Bindhamer ago
I took music theory way back when and the 432Hz frequency is more naturally harmonic and has been called a "Love frequency", whereas the 440Hz frequency is dissodent and agitates the listener. The later just "Feels" disharmonic and uncomfortable. Try tuning to both with an animal hearing and watch the response.
China's 5G is based on the 440Hz frequency and has led to some odd reactions in nature like birds dropping dead and plants dying. Trump wants America to use the 432Hz 5G frequency until the healing 6G frequency being researched becomes a reality.
Certain frequencies can ellicite emotional responses too. This has been known by composers for centuries. From classical music to the chaotic syncopationists of the Jazz era to the Beatles who did a lot of experimentation with odd chords, key changes, and instruments.
Lauraingalls ago
Thank you for that very thoughtful and informative response. Appreciate ALL the info.
Publius1778 ago
Look into Tavistock connections with Frankfurt School intellectual Theo Adorno...
Lauraingalls ago
Thanks for the info.
Publius1778 ago
Tavistock Institute special
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numina18 ago
I am a professional musician. The pitch 440 HZ or A440 is the tone played by the oboe to tune the orchestra. A440 is just one pitch. Every pitch sounds at a different frequency. I don't know what the heck this is all about. "Music" can never be one pitch, whether 432 or 440. This is a mystery to me, and sounds dumb.
HISdaughter ago
Mark Taylor (author/Trump Chronicles) speaks about the frequencies as well..Taylor said that the media is broadcasting its audio at 440 Hz, which has been found to "damage your body organs" and "also changes your DNA, which is the goal of the Freemasons, the Illuminati; they want you part of that Illuminati bloodline."
Lauraingalls ago
Appreciate your response.
Fateswebb ago
But, since musicians tune their own instruments, how did the rockafellers do this? Wouldn't that require them to somehow convince all musicians to retune their instruments?
Qanonplus1 ago
Too bad, its not working on me.
PacaGoat ago
Horsehockey music is frequenxy. Many many frequencies.
nzmc ago
You can tune standard 440 20% up and you have then nice looking 528
TraditionalCode0 ago
Some instruments have tempered tunings and this is given as the excuse for 'tempered tuning'. However, things such as staggered frets on guitars allow for a more tempered tune for the guitar's own 'intonation'. None of this is to actually be confused with the fact that music is mathmatical and the actual mathmatical C is indeed 432, instruments and choices notwithstanding. The first fretted/noted string instrument being the "monochord" which Pythagorus used to teach his students the 'harmony' between all things..........the 'music of the spheres'. I'm going to guess he placed what we call 'A' at 432. (Do as root note, La as sixth in C scale)
The modern adaptation to 440, or at least away from 432 was done after Bach, and the idea expounded upon by Theodore Adorno, Stravinsky, etc, et al of the Frankfurt School in their attempts to DeKonstrukt Music and incorporate, if not elevate 'noise' to a musical concept. Dissonance is the choice of deviants. No rules. No laws. "Do what thou wilt is the entirety of the law"__ Aleister Crowley He knew the idea behind tunings all too well.
madhatter67 ago
If the Frankfurt School was involved, it's can't be good for us
TraditionalCode0 ago
True enough, and it was.
OptimusPrime4 ago
The cabal has all the secrets to use against us, of course they are bombarding human minds with garbage to keep us confused and unfocused and geared to operating at our lower chakras to inhibit our spritual growth and enlightenment. We need to protect our psyche. Remember when embedded images were discovered and banned in advertising?
Lauraingalls ago
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Ddboomer ago
440 -Satan’s frequency
BitChuteArchive ago
https://www.bitchute.com/video/OfWACYjj3UcD
bobdog123 ago
None of this matters. This is all a simulation, Sims version 1138, circa 9193 AD. It's an older version, but it still runs on dad's old laptop. His youngest son is running a simulation of early 2019 political events as a project for his History class. Kid's two years old - he better step up his game if he wants to get admitted to Trump University.
Wheatstone ago
Here is proof that we can be emotionally manipulated by sound frequencies!
https://patents.google.com/patent/US8579793B1/en?oq=8%2c579%2c793
Lots of this stuff out their. I found this type of ELF electronic gaslighting signal coming from my smart meter. It did work.
Lauraingalls ago
Thank you.
NookDat ago
Hell yeah dude, you're getting close to the edge of the rabbit hole. Now start looking into the stars and the "planets" that used to be called wandering stars. How it's all sonoluminescence, like it's actually being broadcasted to us. How they might be sentient beings instead of the what we've been told. Especially Saturn or "satan" look at its eye on the south pole and its hexagon storm on the north. Allegedly....
Johnny_Ninja ago
As a musician married to a professional musician, I think this is all bullshit.
Do I believe music can affect your mood? Sure. Can it affect your spirit? Sure.
Is one set of frequencies inherently evil? No.
In any given note, there is an amalgamation of frequencies. The "note" you hear is the resonant, but there's plenty of other frequencies (including those dubbed as "evil" or whatever) within them all.
I do believe that soundwaves can be manipulated to in turn, manipulate brainwave frequency as this is proven (also known as binaural beats), but none of this is inherently "evil." I can create binaural beats in two seconds with protools. I used to listen to some to help me relax.
The problem with people who aren't normies is that we often buy EVERYTHING hook, line, and sinker.
This is one of those things.
DietCokehead1 ago
Fun fact: the telephone's dial tone is A 440
Lauraingalls ago
Figures. Crazy. Deep State doesn't MISS anything.
Sitnikoff ago
It's actually not really the Hz that is a big deal; if you listen to Jewish-peddled niggermusic at 428Hz, it's not going to encourage degeneracy any less.
What really contributes to degenerate music is found on multiple mediums of experience unified with symbolism. What you hear is only a symptom, with regressive harmonic movement (I-V-IV-I instead of I-IV-V-I), glorification of harsh vocal timbres (i.e. Helter Skelter), vain repetitions (i.e. "Parranoid" by Black Sabbath), etc.
Also, through the lyrical medium people are manipulated by Mkultra themes (White Rabbit by Jefferson Airplane), propaganda (Imagine by John Lennon), degenerate dysfunctionality (The End by the Doors), etc.
Also, through the cultural level, integrating cultural practices that are antithetical to the West's deep association with Christianity with African voodoo ritual (Sympathy for the Devil by Rolling Stones), degenerate gay bar culture (disco & house), nihilism and moral relativism (Nirvana), etc.
Every single aspect/attribute connected with the experience of music and art adds up to the overall inner meaning and intention of the artist, and for the West, it is important that its art remains pure, undefiled by any sort of cultural subversion and their many expressions. And the way we do that is by allowing the Truth of God's Word to guide our decisionmaking for every aspect of the works that we create.
MolochHunter ago
interestingz
thx 4 sharing
Lauraingalls ago
You are welcome.
MAIDENanon ago
Black Sabbath drop tunes....rockefellers must not like METAL.... E to B flat....especially droptune..
drhitler ago
yeah i just tried it on guitar, with fingerpicking lower open notes just seem to drown out and muffle the higher notes.
Lauraingalls ago
Glad you tried it.
RCMike_CHS ago
The 440Hz based tones look more irregular and disconnected than the 432Hz tones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zw0uWCNsyw
Lauraingalls ago
I didn't know stuff like this happened. The proof is in the pudding like they say. Thanks.
4841400209 ago
Always have my piano tuned to 432. Other frequencies can be powerful as well. Damaged DNA in a petri dish will actually heal itself when exposed to 528 Hz. When I'm having difficulty falling asleep, or one of my animals is not feeling well, I'll go to Yt and play 528 Hz. Really helps!
Lauraingalls ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfINc0J3RcI This is a good video that mentions that.
4841400209 ago
I mostly have a tin ear, but I can hear a difference. Think I like 440.
4841400209 ago
Always have my piano tuned to 432. Other frequencies are powerful too. 528 Hz has been known to actually heal damaged DNA when exposed to it. When I'm having difficulty falling asleep, or my dog is not feeling well, I'll go to Yt and play 528 Hz.
Neskuaxa ago
I believe 528hz is one of the Solfeggio Frequencies. The various frequencies are claimed to help with a range of things. I don't know how much of it I buy, but I do know 417hz has helped me a few times.
http://powerthoughtsmeditationclub.com/what-is-the-solfeggio-frequencies/
4841400209 ago
Thanks, I'll listen to 417 tonight.
Lauraingalls ago
Fascinating.
Podingo7 ago
Knew about this a while back(432hz the God frequency), but at first i was sceptical..i dont take anyone's word just because they said it..so, one night i found a YouTube video with a couple hrs of 432hz music..i have to admit, it was powerfully relaxing, had a great nights sleep, and woke up with just a better feeling about the day ahead..i tried it more than once, and result is always positive..thanks for post, God Bless!
Lauraingalls ago
I was able to pick out 432HZ music with tests on You Tube. I didn't know which was which but was able to pick out the more beautiful music by listening, and I ended up being right. I do think this is true.
Lauraingalls ago
This is a nice video to listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqJx9PqmP4c
[432Hz vs 440Hz] Es Posthumus - Nara (Comparison)
Warmoose76 ago
Hi
hedgefundhog ago
Lol
Justice-Formidious ago
They've been at "CONTROL" since about 1771:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSCaITn9Gzc&t=49s
aliasunknown ago
This video is incredible...thank you for sharing
Lauraingalls ago
Thank you so much for the video.
Justice-Formidious ago
You are Welcome.
VoterinVegas ago
Satan's Frequency is 440. The number 4 in Chinese is Death thus no 13th floor
Lauraingalls ago
Very interesting.
hedgefundhog ago
Then why are there 4th floors?
Warmoose76 ago
Maybe I'll try tuning my guitar to 432hz now.
Lauraingalls ago
See if you like it better.
cynicaloldfart ago
When you do, record a track and post it tomorrow night in the FNGT.
Warmoose76 ago
I might do that, I've been meaning to get in on that guitar thread thing but I'm busy now and don't get home tomorrow, if not tomorrow night I'll record something for next week.
cynicaloldfart ago
Sounds good.
VoterinVegas ago
Mark Taylor-Trump Prophesy
Lauraingalls ago
What did Mark Taylor say? Thanks.
chocolatepatriot2 ago
i thought 400 was the evil HZ, and 440 being the normal HZ. It cannot be changed accidentally, for the change to occur it has to be done intentionally. i noticed churches are doing this too. which is strange to me who wants to sit in church agitated. Mind control.
Lauraingalls ago
So true. I heard though that even Churches can be involved in this evil and maybe not even realize it.
GetWoke ago
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2975301
feli00 ago
this information is false
In fact, historically, no tuning has used this frequency of 432 Hz, as you will see below in this small chronological sample.
1640 The organ of the church of the Franciscans in Vienna was tuned at A 457.6 Hz 1699 The musical institution Opera de París tuned in A 404 Hz. 1711 John Shore's invented the fretboard; being the tuning of A 423.5 Hz. 1780 Stines, for Mozart, at 421 Hz. 1780 Schulz organ maker tuned at A 421.3 Hz. 1714 The organ of the Strasbourg Cathedral was tuned at A 391 Hz. 1722 The organ of the Roman Catholic church in Dresden was tuned to A 415 Hz. 1759 The organ of the Trinity College of Cambridge was tuned in A 309 Hz. 1762 The string instruments in Hamburg tuned at A 405 Hz. 1772 The organ in the main catholic church of Dresden tuned in 415 at the time. 1780 Stein's tuner tuned at A 422.6 Hz 1751 Hendel's own tuner tuned at A 422.5 Hz. 1811 The Paris Grand Opera tuned at A 427 Hz. 1812 The Paris Conservatory tuned at A 440 Hz. 1813 George Smart adopted the tuning of A 423.3 Hz for the Philharmonic Society. 1820 The organ of Westminster Abbey used a tuning of A 422.5 Hz. 1834 The Vienna State Opera tuned at A 436.5 Hz. 1835 The piano maker Wolfels tuned at A 443 Hz. 1836 Pleyel piano maker tuned at A 446 Hz. 1846 Mr Hipkins piano tuner tuned at A 436.0 Hz 1849 The mean pitch of the Broadwood pianos was A 445.9 Hz until 1854. 1858 The New Philharmonic of London tuned in C 522 Hz. 1860 The piano maker Cramers tuned at A 448.4 Hz. 1862 The Dresden Opera tuned at A 440 Hz. 1871 The Covent Garden Opera House tuned at A 440 Hz. 1877 Collard piano maker tuned at A 449.9 Hz. 1877 The organ of the Cathedral of San Pablo tuned at A 446.6 Hz 1877 The Chappell piano maker tuned at A 455.9 Hz. 1877 The piano tuner Mr Hipkins changed the pitch to A448.8 Hz. 1878 The Vienna Opera tuned at A 447 Hz. 1879 The Covent Garden Opera tuned at A 450 Hz. 1879 The Erard tuner factory tuned at 455.3 Hz. 1879 The Steinway pianos of England tuned at A 454 Hz. 1879 The wood-wind instruments of the British Navy tuned at A 451.9 Hz. 1880 Brinsmead, Broadwood, and Erard used a tuning of A 455.3 Hz. 1885 In Vienna a tuning was used at 59º fahrenheit of A 435.4 Hz. 1885 At the international exhibition in London the A 452 Hz was adopted. 1925 On June 11 the American music industry adopted the tuning at 440 Hz. 1936 The American Standards Association approved the A 440 Hz, however, the New York Philharmonic and the Boston Symphony Orchestra used 442 Hz. 1939 In an international conference the tuning to 440 Hz was adopted.
https://todoestarelacionado.wordpress.com/2013/04/22/la-farsa-de-las-frecuencias-solfeggio-la-afinacion-a-432-hz-y-su-relacion-con-el-cubo-negro-el-valknut-los-chemtrails-y-el-eneagrama/
QNirmanakaya ago
I disagree, music has been weponized. Here is a good documentary to watch, and a video about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpbHU4ImdaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhAcMOBioQ&t=1339s
Skirmish ago
You are wrong. CIA CREST Library: HEMISYNC or use wikipedia. It still shows what the Canadian Scientists contributed during MKULTRA, which includes HEMISYNC.
sweetholymosiah ago
Excellent research Patriot!
ChrispG ago
I thought the Beatles were all about 432
4841400209 ago
However, hard to deny 432 Hz is the most pleasing to listen to for most of us.
feli00 ago
If you read the article that I put you will realize what is behind the solfeggio frequencies, among which 432 are included
MuDp5fg4QaVDs65 ago
The main six Solfeggio frequencies are:
396 Hz – Liberating Guilt and Fear
417 Hz – Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change
528 Hz – Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
639 Hz – Connecting/Relationships
741 Hz – Expression/Solutions
852 Hz – Returning to Spiritual Order
grammit ago
Always found it interesting that these frequencies can be paired up with the same digits being used but rearranged, like 396 and 639; but I never really put much research into the math behind them.
voatre ago
The differences between paired numbers has a similar pattern with 234 243 etc also
Shitonliblips ago
Not gonna translate it, wouldn't be prudent.
GracieTracie2 ago
Satans frequency..
rdeer1103 ago
Mark Taylor says a lot about that.
Johnny_Ninja ago
He does. I respect him and think God has his ear, but he's just wrong about this scientifically. Every time he starts going off on this stuff, I fast forward it because he doesn't know what he's talking about on this issue.
KillerKap ago
Just intonation vs Equal Tempered is where the real battle in music exists. From a music producer.
Lauraingalls ago
I will have to check into that. rdeer1103
truth_plz ago
Micheal Tyrrell of Wholetones has also done a great deal of research on this. I'd attach a link but it's pretty much a big infomercial. That said, I love his music. He also has a book available on Amazon - "The Sound of Healing: Unveiling the Phenomena of Wholetones".
Lauraingalls ago
Thank you for that information. Appreciate it.
HateTheCabal ago
I first learned about this 18 months ago from Mark Taylor. He’s the guy who was watching Trump on TV on April 28, 2011 and God told him, “You are hearing the voice of a President.” He talks about the Rothschilds changing frequencies.
Lauraingalls ago
Thank you. I will look into that. So unbelievable. It's like Satan clues them in on how to be evil.
Baichu ago
Well put!!!!
Lauraingalls ago
Sure is. The Cabal is Satanic. So sick.
2TBob ago
Basic applied behavioral science = Consequence controls behavior, (soon, certain and positive consequences are most powerful). Why do you answer phone? Because it rings or because you want to speak to the caller. The ringing is called an antecedent, (triggers behavior). Answering and speaking to wanted caller is the consequence. That is just one simple rung of this complicated control science.
Lauraingalls ago
Very true.
Meta-Vinci ago
Ed at Outer light just did a 5 things vid on this
https://youtu.be/Eiqqvu_u1Dc
GeneralDisposition ago
Wow. The outer lights video. The song played towards the end makes the difference clear. The second frequency sounds more mournful and sad. There's a HUGE difference in the same exact song! I'm a little bit creeped out right now.
Warmoose76 ago
Ed is awesome and honest, he is my main go to guy for his opinions on news and conspiracy stuff.
Lauraingalls ago
Good video with interesting information. Thanks.
1Paydaddy ago
This explains Rap music. Propagate the gangster mentality to spread drugs and lawlessness.
reCAPTCHA_Dodger ago
Rap is a style of music, the content of which can vary quite wildly. I mean, for fuck sake, if we went back 50 years, you'd be the guy talking about how rock and roll is the devil. Is the internet evil because there is CP somewhere on it? Comments like yours suggest you might think so. Judge people and things for their content...
Kahlypso79 ago
No it was spread to influence black people to hate cops sell drugs treat women like whores. Music producers invested heavily in private prisons. They only make money if the prisons are full. NWA came out of nowhere with a jewish manager. It may sould mkultra but this is purely pavlovian. Monkey see monkey do.. its the same principle as porn. Now all the free porn has titles like.. i fuck my sister.. daddy pumps daughters ass.. pavlov. Monkey see monkey do... you re not as complicated as you think..
Johnny_Ninja ago
And with most rap music, again the problem is the message..not the beat, the key signature, or the instrumentation. It's the message of killing and all the other shit that's the issue.
Lauraingalls ago
Yes and act aggressive, burn down buildings, flip over cars, when they are mad about something, and even kill.
Shitonliblips ago
Not to mention the lyrics which almost always involve killing, selling drugs, and fucking random skanks.
Lauraingalls ago
Pure Evil.
1Paydaddy ago
Stay clear of known problem areas. I think if we live by the Golden Rule we will be rewarded.
Lauraingalls ago
Yes we will.
Meme_Factory_1776 ago
Women and niggers are the only ones like rap 'music'.
It has also been linked to sociopaths.
DawnPendraig ago
Don't forget "grabbing hoes by their nappy ass weaves"
metalraven ago
Yep....... I've learned to change my music files to 432 from 440. The music is more vibrant as well as more harmonious to nature. Some wave is awsome.
mkt4311 ago
Can you teach or let us know how we can learn to do that?
metalraven ago
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dl6sae66oWk
Uses a free music program. This vid is updated.
Lauraingalls ago
This might help. There are videos on You Tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfINc0J3RcI
Lauraingalls ago
I'm glad you know about this. You know when the average person is working hard just to live, the rich like the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, the Clintons, Soros etc have free time to think of ways to destroy us. I can see why Q said if we knew all the EVIL the Deep State is involved in we would be in a hospital. THEY TOUCH EVERYTHING. So sick.
derram ago
https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=kwAUv-IotC0 :
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onelson1 ago
Music controls moods. Powerful stuff.
Lauraingalls ago
It amazes me that the DEEP STATE CABAL is involved in just about every area of trying to control and destroy us.
Kahlypso79 ago
Full spectrum domination its called.
Lauraingalls ago
Thanks.
Kahlypso79 ago
It goes with mindwar and controlling the weather. Google as seperate searches. X
Lauraingalls ago
Yes it does.
feli00 ago
Do not forget that the deep state cabal as you call it is the entire political system, armies, banking etc except the citizens. Stop is mason and Freemasonry is secret Jewish society so it is also Deep State or is that you see that you send airplanes to knock down those who spray chemtrails. Of course not, chemtrails are made even by USAF military aircraft
chocolatepatriot2 ago
flights of chemtrail reveal that the plans are also major airline companies contracted by ? UN? unsure
onelson1 ago
Why are We the People letting a bunch of overpaid criminals tell us what to do? Having a real hard time finding a reason they can tell us what we can and cant do. I had my parents raise me right and I'm done having these crooks govern us. Taxes for illegals. WTF This has to end. How can we wake people up out of a coma?