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blueskywins ago

I’m beginning to realize that we’ve been lied to about EVERYTHING.

Phantom42 ago

Wait until you go digging around more about WWII and the NSDAP (Nazis).

It's funny, their 25 point plan if you read it isn't so socialist as you may think. One could argue (and several have) that the NSDAP 25 point plan mirrors quite heavily the American Constitution. No, I'm not lying. If you read both and really sit back and think about it, it makes sense.

National "Socialist" Germany provided a basic welfare for the people. That was the socialist part. It had the basics like healthcare, education, and the like covered. Families who had children were allowed to take a loan (during pregnancy, I believe) of a certain amount and when the child is born that debt is paid with the young man or woman being born. This was done to encourage Germans to have many little German babies, which benefits the family unit and the Reich as a whole.

As for private property, unlike socialist systems (Marxist, is the real term. Venezuela, USSR, DPRK, PRC, all Marxist in that they are Socialist or Communist.), private property is encouraged, and Hitler himself clarified on point 17 how the NSDAP STANDS FOR PRIVATE PROPERTY. It was Hitler's belief that reaping benefits of work, hard or light, should go to the individual. It is only fair. You provide for everyone with a great discovery in electricity? Fantastic! You'll reap the rewards.

Small businesses also enjoyed having the NSDAP in power, unlike the Marxist socialist regimes which essentially stamp them out. Larger corporations were certainly allowed, but were closely observed to make sure they were not essentially fucking over the German people with a bad product either in make or if it contained toxic/dangerous elements. These corps were also prevented from lobbying and whatnot, a major issue in a capitalist system which doesn't seem to address the issue so much.

No, the NSDAP was far from socialist. They weren't capitalist either, of course. They were something in-between that was malleable and could adapt to situations quickly.

zxcvzxcv ago

I'd say that the Nazis actually were very capitalist. In fact, they were the most capitalist form of government you could create. The entire idea behind Nazism is that of 'struggle'. Hitler's book was even called "My Struggle". Now compare that with capitalism, which has its entire foundation in "struggle", namely, free-market 'competition'. The genius of the nazis was that they added additional safeguards to protect capitalism from being corrupted by the marxists, protections that were not found in the American constitution, and which, because they were lacking, allowed the jews to infiltrate and now have the USA on the cusp of destruction.

Phantom42 ago

Also, if I might add, the NSDAP system seemed to prevent people from seeing each other as competitors so much as brothers. Brothers compete, but not in such a cut-throat manner as modern capitalist societies compete. Our capitalism discourages brother/sisterhood, like we're a big family. It makes us all too individualistic, where our own family is trying to one up each other.

zxcvzxcv ago

That is a very good point.

Phantom42 ago

Without a doubt.

People say collectivism is a bad thing, I disagree.

Want to know why?

You, as a family, are a collective. You as a town are a collective. You as a nation are a collective. Humans thrive on collectivism, BUT not to a degree that stifles individualistic elements which give a certain "spice of life" and encourage growth and culture.

WilliamCutting ago

Well said.