I'm sure Q read your post and then this conversation immediately transpired:
Q: "OMG, get me POTUS on the phone now!"
POTUS: "yes, Q?"
Q: "Mr. President, I know that our plan was a long time in the making and was created with military precision by the best minds in military intelligence...but we've got to scrap it now in order to pander to Enceladus72's emotions."
POTUS: "But I thought that everything needed to be timed precisely and all the pieces needed to be in place for this to work."
Q: "But sir, Enceladus72's emotions!"
POTUS: "Oh yes, I see. Yep, you're right. Let's blow our load early so that our goals aren't met, but at least Enceladus72 will feel better in the short term."
I'm not trying to be a dick.. well maybe I am to an extent. But look. I get weary, too. We all do. But all this talk about doing something about it on your own is premature. You've got to be realistic here. The scale of the corruption is so vast, and the scale of the brainwashing on the public is so vast, that this has to be done correctly. And correctly takes time. If we don't see some shit happen by the end of 2019, I'm likely to share your views.. at least some of them. But don't let your emotions cloud your logic.
You are a dick. Say what you need to say without the 'playwriting' BS at the beginning....Every TRUE Patriot I know is BRIMMING with anger and intolerance with this passive, apathetic Soap Opera being played out daily by Q Team. A few arrests and some push back on MSM Bullshit and Leftist Agenda would be a step in the right direction....Guys like you always like to pretend they are calm 'Jedi's' waiting for the right moment...Well the big worry on everyone's mind is...what if that moment has PASSED and this whole plan is falling apart due to INACTION, BAD INTEL, UNPREDICTED BEHAVIOR/PUSHBACK BY DS, OR A COMPROMISED Q CELL?
Any good military operation like this would have stomped the ground unmercifully while running forward- pushing certain critical enemy (Leftist/Marxist operatives in GOV) combatants to the ground. This would have sent a STRONG message that the days of DS were over. If the enemy saw their 'leaders' fall, they would fall. Instead, thanks to NO ACTION, they are emboldened and are convinced once again, of their moral superiority, and think nothing of the corruption and scandal that took their rigged election away from them in 2016.
And people that DO work in Military and Police operations (MANY OF US) do not share your NAIVE take on mission timelines. We have a healthy dose of skepticism, and comprehend things based on our own mission experience. You cannot go this long without taking action without risking losing the ability to take any action in the future.....
And do not spitball Q's meager accomplishments. We do not have a wall, there have been no PUBLIC arrests or tribunals, the country is still reeling from Obama's severe mistreatment of the military, illegals are still being pampered, and the Left/MSM/ Treasonous Political Members are still running around like they are untouchable....
Ok first off, fuck you. Don't question my patriotism just because I'm not a sorry sack of emotion like you. We all want the same end result here.
I don't have anything to add to my original argument that I haven't already said. I understand your position, and frankly feel the same way most of the time, but I keep it in check because RIGHT NOW, logic dictates that again, this operation doesn't run on my timeline, your timeline, or anyone else's timeline.
If the 2020 election starts creeping up and nothing is done, then I'll be a lot more open to this "sky is falling" mantra that you're spewing. But even then, it won't be an emotional decision for me at the end of the day.
But look, after getting a sense of the pace at which this thing is moving over the last year, we really shouldn't be too far away from seeing the shit we all want to see.
If I'm wrong then I'll be right there with you howling at the moon and shit. But there's still ample time for this shit to pop the way it needs to. Chill.
Fuck me? Nice....the same to you.
I am greatly relieved to see that people like you are able to differentiate between Patriots like me and yourself. Apparently, if someone expresses earnest doubt and anger towards what looks very much like Patriotic Soap Opera drama, they are deemed 'emotional sacks of shit.
I am not questioning your patriotism. I question your character and your willingness to throw other Patriots down when you yourself should be embracing logical people that think for themselves and question everything- including Q Team and their ridiculous narrative that seems purposely built to have outs, excuses, and reasons for any and all FAILURES.
While I share your view on 2020, I believe you and your loved ones need to get out from under this mind control nonsense that Q is spewing NOW. Look at the real situation. Is this really a organization that knows all, has all, and is in control? Or is this just fluff to keep well meaning Patriots coming back for more?
As far as a TIMELINE. this operation runs on a window of opportunity to do the most damage to the opposition and get in place, securities, protections and defenses that will defend America far into the future. That 'window' is closing fast.....They have spent too much time trying to get the PERFECT STORM, instead of having a few gullywashers that would wipe up 75% of the mess. Now they have allowed certain things to happen and provided massive INACTION to 'trap' the opposition. (The whole make them feel safe routine) Total Bullshit.
My guess is that come election time next year and into the election run offs over the summer of 2020, you will pretty disappointed. There will be no mass arrests, the election fraud of 2018 will never be reversed, and the MSM and Cabal will be more or less still in tact and running Boob Tube mind control and pushing agenda far into the future....
I shouldn't have said that. Though you DID question my patriotism via the "all the TRUE Patriots I know..." comment you made. That's what pissed me off.
But you know what, that's fine. You guys are free to think what you want.
I still think you guys aren't being as logical as you think you are, but that's just my opinion.
When things start going down, you're going to forget you ever felt this way. Which is good I suppose, but don't completely forget it because it will be instructive of the very points I've already made.
Well I do enjoy your writing and educated opinions are always appreciated. I am pretty much done with the whole Q thing but I am not done with supporting my fellow Patriots and pushing for true sovereignty and independence from evil tyranny like Marxism and Globalism. I do hope that Trump can reclaim the Presidency in 2020, but I think that oppositional control has become pretty solid with our enemy- The Left. Despite what Q Team says, I do not think they have as much control as they say they have and they took really huge (stupid) risks when they allowed the Left to win the November election- hundreds of corrupt and fraudulent elections were won again. This was the turning point for most Americans that were following Q. I have turned my back on Q Team, because of their incessant games, tricks, and traps. These are only good when the other side is not psychopathic and felonious- which the Left is. You are depending on ethics and values to be controlling variables in their behavior, which will never happen. Q Team has made huge mistakes and are losing valuable support from really good people.
Regarding the elections, I do think there's a logical reason to have allowed them to carry on cheating this last time, which is to catch them in the act and record it all. Not that I like it, but it makes sense from a strategic standpoint if you assume that there was no pre-existing hard evidence held by the DOJ to prosecute. And why would there have been? You think Obama's FBI and DOJ were going to try to collect evidence of democrat election fraud? Hell, they had a hand in it!
All that to say that if you want to prosecute people for crimes, especially high profile assholes like the Dems party leaders and election officials, you need an airtight case. And such a trial is not something that can be halfassed. You can't charge people with things like that and then afford for them to walk.
If, and I believe it will...but if this turns out to be a sting operation that not only hammers the Dems for these crimes, but puts into jeaopardy the house election results, then it will have been worth it because it will give real public support to doing something to protect that ballot moving forward.
I agree- You make some really good points but I still think there has been some kind of event that has compromised and held back certain events that Q Team was counting on.
Yeah I get that you think that. The problem is the reasons you give for thinking that all seem to have logical explanations, many of which I have set forth.
Not to be disagreeable, but again it seems like the best reason you can give to think this is your emotions and impatience.
What am I missing here? Give me solid, logical reasons.
Logical Reason: Too much traction being made by Enemy; Risking too much collateral damage when you allow enemy to advance, even into traps well laid. I am a firm believer that ones enemy needs to be clipped at the knees and shackled before their advancement brings new opportunities, new outs, new escapes from your advance. Powerful Armies have been defeated badly by giving in, capitulating to a weaker foe, thinking it would 'trap them' or lull them into a nice net. I say we need to throw the castle door open and advance like fire into the wind.....enough of the chit chat jib jab fancy talk..... :)
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Johnny_Ninja ago
I'm sure Q read your post and then this conversation immediately transpired:
Q: "OMG, get me POTUS on the phone now!"
POTUS: "yes, Q?"
Q: "Mr. President, I know that our plan was a long time in the making and was created with military precision by the best minds in military intelligence...but we've got to scrap it now in order to pander to Enceladus72's emotions."
POTUS: "But I thought that everything needed to be timed precisely and all the pieces needed to be in place for this to work."
Q: "But sir, Enceladus72's emotions!"
POTUS: "Oh yes, I see. Yep, you're right. Let's blow our load early so that our goals aren't met, but at least Enceladus72 will feel better in the short term."
I'm not trying to be a dick.. well maybe I am to an extent. But look. I get weary, too. We all do. But all this talk about doing something about it on your own is premature. You've got to be realistic here. The scale of the corruption is so vast, and the scale of the brainwashing on the public is so vast, that this has to be done correctly. And correctly takes time. If we don't see some shit happen by the end of 2019, I'm likely to share your views.. at least some of them. But don't let your emotions cloud your logic.
DarkKnightPatriot ago
You are a dick. Say what you need to say without the 'playwriting' BS at the beginning....Every TRUE Patriot I know is BRIMMING with anger and intolerance with this passive, apathetic Soap Opera being played out daily by Q Team. A few arrests and some push back on MSM Bullshit and Leftist Agenda would be a step in the right direction....Guys like you always like to pretend they are calm 'Jedi's' waiting for the right moment...Well the big worry on everyone's mind is...what if that moment has PASSED and this whole plan is falling apart due to INACTION, BAD INTEL, UNPREDICTED BEHAVIOR/PUSHBACK BY DS, OR A COMPROMISED Q CELL?
Any good military operation like this would have stomped the ground unmercifully while running forward- pushing certain critical enemy (Leftist/Marxist operatives in GOV) combatants to the ground. This would have sent a STRONG message that the days of DS were over. If the enemy saw their 'leaders' fall, they would fall. Instead, thanks to NO ACTION, they are emboldened and are convinced once again, of their moral superiority, and think nothing of the corruption and scandal that took their rigged election away from them in 2016.
And people that DO work in Military and Police operations (MANY OF US) do not share your NAIVE take on mission timelines. We have a healthy dose of skepticism, and comprehend things based on our own mission experience. You cannot go this long without taking action without risking losing the ability to take any action in the future.....
And do not spitball Q's meager accomplishments. We do not have a wall, there have been no PUBLIC arrests or tribunals, the country is still reeling from Obama's severe mistreatment of the military, illegals are still being pampered, and the Left/MSM/ Treasonous Political Members are still running around like they are untouchable....
Johnny_Ninja ago
Ok first off, fuck you. Don't question my patriotism just because I'm not a sorry sack of emotion like you. We all want the same end result here.
I don't have anything to add to my original argument that I haven't already said. I understand your position, and frankly feel the same way most of the time, but I keep it in check because RIGHT NOW, logic dictates that again, this operation doesn't run on my timeline, your timeline, or anyone else's timeline.
If the 2020 election starts creeping up and nothing is done, then I'll be a lot more open to this "sky is falling" mantra that you're spewing. But even then, it won't be an emotional decision for me at the end of the day.
But look, after getting a sense of the pace at which this thing is moving over the last year, we really shouldn't be too far away from seeing the shit we all want to see.
If I'm wrong then I'll be right there with you howling at the moon and shit. But there's still ample time for this shit to pop the way it needs to. Chill.
DarkKnightPatriot ago
Dear Johnny
Fuck me? Nice....the same to you. I am greatly relieved to see that people like you are able to differentiate between Patriots like me and yourself. Apparently, if someone expresses earnest doubt and anger towards what looks very much like Patriotic Soap Opera drama, they are deemed 'emotional sacks of shit.
I am not questioning your patriotism. I question your character and your willingness to throw other Patriots down when you yourself should be embracing logical people that think for themselves and question everything- including Q Team and their ridiculous narrative that seems purposely built to have outs, excuses, and reasons for any and all FAILURES.
While I share your view on 2020, I believe you and your loved ones need to get out from under this mind control nonsense that Q is spewing NOW. Look at the real situation. Is this really a organization that knows all, has all, and is in control? Or is this just fluff to keep well meaning Patriots coming back for more?
As far as a TIMELINE. this operation runs on a window of opportunity to do the most damage to the opposition and get in place, securities, protections and defenses that will defend America far into the future. That 'window' is closing fast.....They have spent too much time trying to get the PERFECT STORM, instead of having a few gullywashers that would wipe up 75% of the mess. Now they have allowed certain things to happen and provided massive INACTION to 'trap' the opposition. (The whole make them feel safe routine) Total Bullshit.
My guess is that come election time next year and into the election run offs over the summer of 2020, you will pretty disappointed. There will be no mass arrests, the election fraud of 2018 will never be reversed, and the MSM and Cabal will be more or less still in tact and running Boob Tube mind control and pushing agenda far into the future....
Johnny_Ninja ago
I shouldn't have said that. Though you DID question my patriotism via the "all the TRUE Patriots I know..." comment you made. That's what pissed me off.
But you know what, that's fine. You guys are free to think what you want.
I still think you guys aren't being as logical as you think you are, but that's just my opinion.
When things start going down, you're going to forget you ever felt this way. Which is good I suppose, but don't completely forget it because it will be instructive of the very points I've already made.
Good day to you.
DarkKnightPatriot ago
Well I do enjoy your writing and educated opinions are always appreciated. I am pretty much done with the whole Q thing but I am not done with supporting my fellow Patriots and pushing for true sovereignty and independence from evil tyranny like Marxism and Globalism. I do hope that Trump can reclaim the Presidency in 2020, but I think that oppositional control has become pretty solid with our enemy- The Left. Despite what Q Team says, I do not think they have as much control as they say they have and they took really huge (stupid) risks when they allowed the Left to win the November election- hundreds of corrupt and fraudulent elections were won again. This was the turning point for most Americans that were following Q. I have turned my back on Q Team, because of their incessant games, tricks, and traps. These are only good when the other side is not psychopathic and felonious- which the Left is. You are depending on ethics and values to be controlling variables in their behavior, which will never happen. Q Team has made huge mistakes and are losing valuable support from really good people.
Johnny_Ninja ago
Our position regarding the left is identical.
Regarding the elections, I do think there's a logical reason to have allowed them to carry on cheating this last time, which is to catch them in the act and record it all. Not that I like it, but it makes sense from a strategic standpoint if you assume that there was no pre-existing hard evidence held by the DOJ to prosecute. And why would there have been? You think Obama's FBI and DOJ were going to try to collect evidence of democrat election fraud? Hell, they had a hand in it!
All that to say that if you want to prosecute people for crimes, especially high profile assholes like the Dems party leaders and election officials, you need an airtight case. And such a trial is not something that can be halfassed. You can't charge people with things like that and then afford for them to walk.
If, and I believe it will...but if this turns out to be a sting operation that not only hammers the Dems for these crimes, but puts into jeaopardy the house election results, then it will have been worth it because it will give real public support to doing something to protect that ballot moving forward.
DarkKnightPatriot ago
I agree- You make some really good points but I still think there has been some kind of event that has compromised and held back certain events that Q Team was counting on.
Johnny_Ninja ago
Yeah I get that you think that. The problem is the reasons you give for thinking that all seem to have logical explanations, many of which I have set forth.
Not to be disagreeable, but again it seems like the best reason you can give to think this is your emotions and impatience.
What am I missing here? Give me solid, logical reasons.
DarkKnightPatriot ago
Logical Reason: Too much traction being made by Enemy; Risking too much collateral damage when you allow enemy to advance, even into traps well laid. I am a firm believer that ones enemy needs to be clipped at the knees and shackled before their advancement brings new opportunities, new outs, new escapes from your advance. Powerful Armies have been defeated badly by giving in, capitulating to a weaker foe, thinking it would 'trap them' or lull them into a nice net. I say we need to throw the castle door open and advance like fire into the wind.....enough of the chit chat jib jab fancy talk..... :)
Johnny_Ninja ago
What traction have they gained exactly? The Clintons are toast politically, the only thing left for them is to put them in jail.
The cabal in Europe is beginning to crumble before our very eyes.
You already know what I think about the last election here, that will have to play out before I can say much more on that subject.
Child trafficking networks being hammered like never before.
Huber and co. Have been building cases for the last year or more.
I say we're on the precipice of victory. Time will tell I suppose.