shitpostfacto1 ago

No doubt it is simply another Russian defensive superweapon that they haven't told us about yet, which they have developed with their frugal defense budget and that our multi-billion dollar multiple intelligence agencies are not yet aware of.

Blacksmith21 ago

Don't forget about the Soviet Russian ability to manufacture precision machinery with the tightest tolerances and best materials. Yugo, Lada, and Antonov come to mind...

shitpostfacto1 ago

It never ceases to amaze me what a determined people can accomplish with sledge hammers and files, not sure if the sickle was much help though!

Blacksmith21 ago

All joking aside, the T-34 was a pretty decent tank for the time and the Soviets were able to pump them out in massive counts. The Russians are good at solving physics issues, but not as good at solving engineering issues. Good at economic espionage. Not good in the execution department. 2/3 of the country are drunk.

shitpostfacto1 ago

Being good at distillation and consuming the product isn't necessarily the best for a society. I think they have somewhat moved beyond that societal collapse phase though. There probably isn't more than 1/3 of the population drunk now! The T-34 was a great tank with excellent American designed Christie suspension. They had amazing industrial prouction capabilities during WWII when you consider they had to move factories lock stock and barrel to the east. Most of their equipment was simple and robustly constructed. They have had a few dogs, but they have had a lot of winners too. I wouldn't want to be the first F-35 pilot to face an S-400 missile system, or a Su-35 either. For that matter, I also wouldn't want to be on the first naval vessel to encounter one of their various anti-ship missles. Hopefully, peace will break out and nothing like that will ever happen, but I guess that the time to discuss how good their execution of engineering issues is would be after such events.

Blacksmith21 ago

I agree. I like busting on the Russkies, but to pooh-pooh ones adversary is stupid Sun Tzu 101. The S-300 was no slouch either. The S-400 integrated fire control system rivals ours and it nearly impenetrable to 80,000'.

Mustard_of_puppets ago

In defense of Lada's the Nivas are amazing in the bush, I wouldn't drive them on the streets though. They have a steller power to wieght ratio though and you can fix them with only one wrench. Not a pinnacle of technology by any stretch but just barebones and rugged enough to be a fun bush toy.

I mean it won't replace a truck or even an ATV but it's better then a go kart. Great for hunting birds and exploring.

Blacksmith21 ago

Mustard_of_Puppets....LOL. Then you'll LOVE this. Apologies in advance for ruining this song forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INqis5g1OHE

Blacksmith21 ago

Small differences between a Lada and a nuclear-powered underwater 20MT torpedo.

Mustard_of_puppets ago

It's prettymuch just aerodynamics and the gear ratio, It could still take a slow moving target and put a small dent in its side.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRBGr39uJBo

Drain0 ago

Has anyone else been getting invalid certificate errors from archive.fo? I've been having issues for the past 2-3 days across multiple platforms and browsers.

https://imgoat.com/uploads/8dce83da57/92869.png

NoBS ago

The pathetic part is it works so well. We as a species need a daily bitch slap while cleaning up our own community before grabbing another cities problems as if our own shit don't stink.

kestrel9 ago

Slap 'em everyday!

Here's the next psyop plant article http://archive.is/AhdjF

WAPO ;)

Outlook  Perspective

The military keeps encountering UFOs. Why doesn’t the Pentagon care?

We have no idea what’s behind these weird incidents because we’re not investigating.


Before I paste more, I mean seriously who is their target audience? 18-20 old year college snowflakes?


By Christopher Mellon March 9

Christopher Mellon served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence in the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations. He is a private equity investor and an adviser to the To the Stars Academy for Arts and Science.

*Did I just hear BIGLY (((Qualifed Expert))) ?


Is it possible that America has been technologically leap-frogged by Russia or China? Or, as many people wondered after the videos were first published by the New York Times in December, might they be evidence of some alien civilization?

Unfortunately, we have no idea, because we aren’t even seeking answers.


College freshman in tears: "Dammit, why aren't they even looking!? I mean YAh, other people are wondering that too! It's a movement to demand truth!"


I served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence for the Clinton and George W. Bush administrations and as staff director for the Senate Intelligence Committee, and I know from numerous discussions with Pentagon officials over the past two years that military departments and agencies treat such incidents as isolated events rather than as part of a pattern requiring serious attention and investigation.


Freshman: "Dammit, they haven't been looking for two years! This is getting out of control!"

A colleague of mine at To the Stars Academy, Luis Elizondo, used to run a Pentagon intelligence program that examined evidence of “anomalous” aircraft, but he resigned last fall to protest government inattention to the growing body of empirical data.


Freshman: "They're hiding something and don't want us to look at why they aren't looking at the list of isolated events! This should be taken seriously! This guy like lost his job and no one is listening!"


Meanwhile, reports from different services and agencies remain largely ignored and unevaluated inside their respective bureaucratic stovepipes. There is no Pentagon process for synthesizing all the observations the military is making. The current approach is equivalent to having the Army conduct a submarine search without the Navy. It is also reminiscent of the counterterrorism efforts of the CIA and the FBI before Sept. 11, 2001, when each had information on the hijackers that they kept to themselves. In this instance, the truth may ultimately prove benign, but why leave it to chance?


*Freshman: It's like all these stovepipes are going to explode if someone doesn't do something! The army needs help to find submarines! We need the CIA to look at everything the military looks at!"


(A Pentagon spokesman did not respond to requests from The Washington Post for comment, but in December, the military confirmed the existence of a program to investigate UFOs and said it had stopped funding the research in 2012.)

*Freshman: "The army needs money to make a list of UFOs!"


The military personnel who are encountering these phenomena tell remarkable stories. In one example, over the course of two weeks in November 2004, the USS Princeton, a guided-missile cruiser operating advanced naval radar, repeatedly detected unidentified aircraft operating in and around the Nimitz carrier battle group, which it was guarding off the coast of San Diego. In some cases, according to incident reports and interviews with military personnel, these vehicles descended from altitudes higher than 60,000 feet at supersonic speeds, only to suddenly stop and hover as low as 50 feet above the ocean. The United States possesses nothing capable of such feats.


Freshman: I just read that same story online from an eyewitness who was with another eyewitness! It has to be an invasion!


On at least two occasions, F-18 fighters were guided to intercept these vehicles and were able to verify their location, appearance and performance. Notably, these encounters occurred in broad daylight and were independently monitored by radars aboard multiple ships and aircraft. According to naval aviators I have spoken with at length, the vehicles were roughly 45 feet long and white. Yet these mysterious aircraft easily sped away from and outmaneuvered America’s front-line fighters without a discernible means of propulsion.

Freshman: *"That's no coincidence that people online saw something! It must be top secret if an expert is writing a WAPO outlook and perspective article about other experts!


From my work with To the Stars Academy, which seeks to raise private funds to investigate incidents ....

Freshman: "The guy who advises the place where the guy who protest walked off his old job to come wants money, and stuff... (yawn)...Starbucks sounds good right now."

@vivalad

kestrel9 ago

but seriously... we're getting to the real historical significance of the UFOlogy narrative in this article. And I can't post it all here, this op has been in the works for awhile.

If the origin of these aircraft is a mystery, so is the paralysis of the U.S. government in the face of such evidence. Sixty years ago, when the Soviet Union put the first manmade satellite in orbit,Americans recoiled at the idea of being technologically surpassed by a dangerous rival, and the furor over Sputnik ultimately produced the space race. Americans responded vigorously, and a little more than a decade later, Neil Armstrong set foot on the moon. If these craft mean that Russia, China or some other nation is concealing an astonishing technological breakthrough to quietly extend its lead, surely we should respond as we did then. Perhaps Russian President Vladi­mir Putin’s recent chest-thumping claims about propulsion breakthroughs are not pure braggadocio. Or, if these craft really aren’t from Earth, then the need to figure out what they are is even more urgent.

Lately, media coverage of the issue of unidentified aerial vehicles has focused on an expired $22 million congressional earmark for Bigelow Aerospace, a contractor with ties to former Senate Democratic leader Harry Reid (Nev.). The money mostly funded research and analysis by that contractor, without participation from the Air Force, NORAD or other key military organizations. The real issue, though, is not a long-gone earmark, helpful though it may have been, but numerous recent incidents involving the military and violations of U.S. airspace. It is time to set aside taboos regarding “UFOs” and instead listen to our pilots and radar operators.

Within a roughly $50 billion annual intelligence budget, money is not the issue. Existing funds would easily cover what’s needed to look into the incidents. What we lack above all is recognition that

(((this issue warrants a serious collection and analysis effort))).

To make headway, the task needs to be assigned to an official with the clout to compel collaboration among disparate and often quarrelsome national security bureaucracies. A truly serious effort would involve, among other things, analysts able to review infrared satellite data, NORAD radar databases, and signals and human intelligence reporting. Congress should require an all-source study by the secretary of defense while promoting research into new forms of propulsion that might explain how these vehicles achieve such extraordinary power and maneuverability.

Of interest going to WWII : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_W._Nimitz

EricKaliberhall ago

Project Blue beam in action!

kestrel9 ago

You have the winning ticket! You're going to the Island! (or is it called off world these days?) that's 2 movie references in case any one is wondering

vivalad ago

yup - they can pull out UFO crap at the drop of a hat...almost as if they are man made

kestrel9 ago

wiley rabbits! I mean rats...

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2438901