So let me get this straight, this doc references http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=619215 with respect to measles in immunized populations. But let's look at actual US measle rates in the US over time, I'll let you guess when the vaccine was introduced.
No I'm not, there are no records of infection that are accurate even in modern times. There is no way of recording every infection as many are never reported.
the graph I showed was "CASES" yours was "DEATHS", Apples and Oranges. The rate of DEATH may be low, but the worst part is that the disease doesn't kill everyone, it mames so many.
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juggernaut ago
So let me get this straight, this doc references http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=619215 with respect to measles in immunized populations. But let's look at actual US measle rates in the US over time, I'll let you guess when the vaccine was introduced.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/images/meas_fig_02.jpg
Voat is full of fucking kooks, or please tell me how big-pharma has hidden the truth about vaccines again?
catechumen ago
You are forgetting advances in non-preventive treatment, sanitation and hygiene.
Look up the rate of all infectious diseases:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures/m829a1f1.gif
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4829a1.htm
juggernaut ago
looking at death rate vs infections is misleading, you are spouting misinformation.
catechumen ago
No I'm not, there are no records of infection that are accurate even in modern times. There is no way of recording every infection as many are never reported.
juggernaut ago
the graph I showed was "CASES" yours was "DEATHS", Apples and Oranges. The rate of DEATH may be low, but the worst part is that the disease doesn't kill everyone, it mames so many.
catechumen ago
That's inaccurate, the risks are identical to the vaccines risks in a developed country.
http://2020science.org/2015/02/04/measles-mortality-rates-2008-2011-outbreak-france/
http://americanthinker.com/images/bucket/2014-06/192649_5_.png
It's also interesting to note they are more severe with age, and since the vaccine efficacy wanes over time....
Reports of Measles in Canada
Graph
Source
Incidence of measles in Canada dropped steadily between the 30s and the 60s, even before the measles vaccine was introduced.
juggernaut ago
ah yes, americanthinker and 2020science, the last bastions of spin-free science in the world
catechumen ago
Study is hosted on the cdc's website... good job.
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/19/3/12-1360_article