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wellendowedduckling ago

so which do we want ? a bunch of nation states or one world government? it seems like there is evil/conspiracy in both

HexTq ago

A World Government is inevitable for the survival of humanity on the long run.

pitenius ago

Oh, gee! Since you said it, that must be true! There's even a few big science type words in there.

HexTq ago

Oh,gee! Since you made fun of it, you must be the coolest guy in existence

pitenius ago

In my experience, people get most defensive when they know they're wrong.

HexTq ago

Sure, its possible to have an adult argument with someone who writes "Oh, gee! Since you said it, that must be true! There's even a few big science type words in there." Make your point.

pitenius ago

My point is that showing up in a conspiracy sub advocating the inevitability of a one world government is the equivalent of arguing for body positivity in FPH. That might have been defensible because conspiritards are not shitlords, but you gave no reasons. Everyone else already knew that point. You're disingenuous.

HexTq ago

Kek. Sorry, i did not know the One World Government and a wOrld Government is the same, mate.There is a big difference in my understanding, but i can see your point,yeah.

pitenius ago

A big factor of what people hate about a unified government is that there would be no competition. In my opinion, a government without challenges will devolve into China -- a remote authority on which all local governance depends with no possibility of independence or dissent. It might be soft power; it might be fascism: both suck. Frankly, at some level, we need conflict. But that stands against what people are taught: war is bad, peace is good. (China knows this, too, but they'll try to manage both sides of an internal conflict, which has all the authenticity of a Coke vs. Pepsi stand-off.)

It's a rough sell: The candidate who claims "I promise you endless border conflicts, regional disruptions, shifting borders and nationalities" will lose to "We are all one! We have the same rights!". Mostly, because people are stupid. There's some hippy center in America: The Center for Peace and Justice. No one questions whether there can be "justice" and "peace" at the same time. What should the aggrieved do? Endlessly forgive the aggressor? I suppose, if you're Angela Merkel.

I'll spare you my thoughts on the misuse of the term "peace".

HexTq ago

Nah, i just cant find a better translation of the native word than world government. Breaking it down i mean something like a global unity in terms that matter for humans(like resource distribution,space exploration etc,not a real government. I use the word hatalom wich means just power(authority,empire,potency,ascendancy xD) in english,but so much more in its native meaning.) Im not in favor for the One World Government, at all :) In the end i believe united we stand,divided we fall.Not in the sense that all of humanity needs to be in one mind and purpose.

pitenius ago

Hatalom? Magyar?

HexTq ago

Yes