Do you know how far this goes? Like, will Apple disclose all my information connected to my account? Or will social media sites like Facebook and Twitter send all private messages to the NSA? Will Voat be affected?
I would just assume they're seeing every. single. thing. you do or say online. We've already been shown that they were when it wasn't legal, why would they stop or even slow down now that its legal?
I see your point. Well, if they're seeing everything, then that means they're either sifting through billions of posts per day with a couple of keywords, or they're trying to monitor every individual message. Either way, that's completely ineffective, even with all the funding they have. So at least there's that.
Not really. Have you looked into the software they use? They don't have to manually do anything. It automatically forms a profile around your online activity and predicts the likelihood of potential threats. The one article I read showed how, with fairly high levels of certainty, they can predict exactly where and when you'll be driving buzzed, cheating on your wife, or picking up a dime bag. No human effort required
There are a lot of systems, datafeeds, software with ridiculous names... tie everything all together and they have their living panopticon. I highly doubt even the operators or overseers know what they are truly dealing with yet.
I don't have it anymore and couldn't find it with a few minutes of googling. But is it really that surprising? If you have an unending flow of tax dollars, the best and brightest minds in tech, and cooperation from every cell phone provider and local police dept in the country plus all the data from every road camera, dmv database, and license plate scanner, what couldn't you accomplish?
Actual constant valid communication from different resources. Computers fuck up, and people fuck up even more. If you're analyzing millions of user-generated content pieces per hour, you're either catching very little, or you're slowing yourself down to a snail's pace. Unless, of course, you have more computation power than I can even fathom.
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unband ago
Do you know how far this goes? Like, will Apple disclose all my information connected to my account? Or will social media sites like Facebook and Twitter send all private messages to the NSA? Will Voat be affected?
PardiGras ago
I would just assume they're seeing every. single. thing. you do or say online. We've already been shown that they were when it wasn't legal, why would they stop or even slow down now that its legal?
unband ago
I see your point. Well, if they're seeing everything, then that means they're either sifting through billions of posts per day with a couple of keywords, or they're trying to monitor every individual message. Either way, that's completely ineffective, even with all the funding they have. So at least there's that.
PardiGras ago
Not really. Have you looked into the software they use? They don't have to manually do anything. It automatically forms a profile around your online activity and predicts the likelihood of potential threats. The one article I read showed how, with fairly high levels of certainty, they can predict exactly where and when you'll be driving buzzed, cheating on your wife, or picking up a dime bag. No human effort required
unband ago
Holy shit, really? Sauce, if you have it, please. I'd love (or hate) to see this shit.
squidicuz ago
https://cryptome.org/2013/10/nsa-prism-13-1021.pdf
https://cryptome.org/2013/10/nsa-sso-slides.pdf
https://cryptome.org/2013/11/snowden-tally.htm
There are a lot of systems, datafeeds, software with ridiculous names... tie everything all together and they have their living panopticon. I highly doubt even the operators or overseers know what they are truly dealing with yet.
Would you like to know more?
unband ago
I can't... even fucking deal with that. That's offensive to look at.
squidicuz ago
I am sorry. What are we to do?
unband ago
Supreme Court? Fighting this is gonna be really hard.
PardiGras ago
I don't have it anymore and couldn't find it with a few minutes of googling. But is it really that surprising? If you have an unending flow of tax dollars, the best and brightest minds in tech, and cooperation from every cell phone provider and local police dept in the country plus all the data from every road camera, dmv database, and license plate scanner, what couldn't you accomplish?
unband ago
Actual constant valid communication from different resources. Computers fuck up, and people fuck up even more. If you're analyzing millions of user-generated content pieces per hour, you're either catching very little, or you're slowing yourself down to a snail's pace. Unless, of course, you have more computation power than I can even fathom.
PardiGras ago
http://www.wired.com/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/
unband ago
Thanks. I'll be reading this.