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carbanara ago

Why is off the grid becoming illegal?

What is the governments logic? They have to have some reason. As long as I qualify all the local statutes and regulations, shouldn't I be able to be left alone?

Dysnomia ago

As long as I qualify all the local statutes and regulations, shouldn't I be able to be left alone?

As long as the statutes mandate living in code approved dwellings, living in non-code approved dwellings is against the local statutes and regulations.

Although in all seriousness, this hits really close to home for me because it appears they moved to a locale where off grid living was compliant with the statutes and regulations, but some locals made it there business to change criminalize the actions of the immigrants.

I faced exactly this (still am dealing with it) in my rural village of 700 in SW Wisconsin. I moved here, inside the village limits, and didn't mow my lawn because I'm in the floodplain and no-mow zones are best management practice as such. I also hate lawnmowers and lawncare in general.

Anyway, this WAS completely legal. Then the sole police officer in town, the part time "chief", came a knockin' to tell me I was violating the village code and had to cut my lawn to be in compliance. He gave me 5 days to comply.

3 days later he left an official notice on my door that I had 10 days to mow my lawn. The official notice contained the entirety of the code I was accused of violating.

Lo and behold, the code contained an exemption for yards in the floodplain. I told him of this. Saw in the village paper that he'd informed the village board of this revelation and intended to discuss the matter with the village attorney.

I show up at the next meeting to ask if he'd figured it out yet; that no-mow zones are beneficial to the environment and reduce risk of flooding (my village got flooded out in 2007 and 2008 because of back to back 100 year floods and floods are a sore topic.)

Well, he figured out diddly squat and told me that he intended to submit a revision to remove my exemption at the next months meeting.

I showed up at that meeting with three likeminded friends and constituents and we argued against it from all angles, legal, practical, ecological, moral...

Guess what? Those crooked fucks changed the law anyhow. So now my best management practices in the floodplain are illegal. It only affects me. Everybody else mows their lawns. The Village board president rolled his eyes at me when I suggested that we'd have less sever floods if everybody mowed a lot less of their yards.

He said, "When it floods, we've got bigger problems to deal with than floods."

I've seriously looked into moving my house out of town to my property in unincorporated rurality.

Lucky me is building an anarchist permaculture utopia out there with trust fund money.

And of the village? I calmly called them corrupt to their faces and informed them they'd be hearing from my lawyer. I haven't cut my yard. They haven't bothered me in three months now.

That police "chief" was just recently attempting to search people without warrants for bongs in trunks he "had evidence of." The only black guy in town and po-dunk 30 year old police "chief" is trying to deprive him of his rights.

Fucking fuck.

Like I said, close to home.

TL:DR- Cops made my peaceful non-activity illegal. Seriously.

carbanara ago

messed up man, sorry to hear of your situation. I too am hoping to get into permaculture, which feeds the anaerobic digestor, which feeds the algae diesel reactor.

I got big plans, just need the space and a good unrestricted property.

Dysnomia ago

Well if Wisconsin winters don't scare you I will have land accessible to like minded folks by next Spring.

I plan on accepting WWOOFers and volunteers by then and I plan on having my legal shit figured out so I can start selling rights to homesites and the common areas by next Spring.

Currently I'm tackling all this shit Han Solo which isn't really my cup of tea but life gave me all the lemons.

How does one even advertise for an anarchist permaculture community?

carbanara ago

If you don't mind, you should start a blog. I'm sure a lot of people could benefit from your struggle.

Dysnomia ago

I started one at some point and I can't even remember what it was called. Lol.

I suppose I might reclaim it once my radio show hits the road.

carbanara ago

Oooh that would be great too!

Can you PM me a link?