Guys, think about this for a second. Why would 9/11 have been setup by the government? Well, look at what it allowed them to do in the wake of it. The world has been changed forever because of that event and the "justification" for future events.
Now, what has changed since Sandy Hook? Barely a damn thing. Nothing has changed at the Federal level (where this would have to be organized) and only a small number of very liberal Governors and Mayors were able to pass things like magazine limits.
The number of people you'd have to bribe and keep quiet about this sort of thing far exceeds just the people who were directly related to those 20 kids. You'd have to bribe the entire town. And for what? Basically nothing has changed!!
While I see your point that nothing much has changed, it's possible that the aim of this event was thought control. People's views on guns have changed and not necessarily the gun laws.
I don't really see any change in views on guns. Maybe a few people were switched in their minds to wanting tougher gun control but nothing came of it.
What I will say this has done is be yet another grotesque event that is wrapped up in the fabric of our society. We're getting used to this. We bombed a damn Doctors Without Borders Hospital - I don't hear anybody talking about it around the office. I don't see any massive protests. What would citizens have done in the 60's/70's if security agency documents were leaked at the same level as Edward Snowden documents of recent years? I think people would have rioted in DC, honestly. Now? We get this slow leak after leak of information.
We're being conditioned to not see these horrifying abuses of power, corruption or outright murder in front of us as anything out of the ordinary. We're also being conditioned to realize that even if we did rise up we wouldn't win.
That's the only real reason I could say for a mass murder but, if we're honest, crazy people carry them out regularly every year. There's zero reason for the government to stage Sandy Hook from what I can see.
Gun control was achieved in Australia only after a string of high profile shootings accompanied by media hype. Didne we just have two shootings in one day recently? They wont stop staging these fake shootings until they get what they want.... and the the shootings will cease and the powers that be will say "see, gun control works", just like they did in Australia
It seems like you're implying that all these shootings are fake? I mean, you can see the people bury their loved ones. I'm sorry but it's not possible for the government to rely on tens of thousands of people all pretending. I don't care how much money they offer people, there's no way a bunch of plebeians are going to turn thespian. These people would never be able to act that well.
Well said. That means that even if Sandy Hook wasn't completely staged, or at all, then it did effect thought control! People's thoughts are not their own.
People's minds don't have to be changed necessarily, but the voices who believe in restricting firearms are growing louder and more insistent. That message is beginning to repeat over and over in the left-wing echo chamber and eventually it will just be the default attitude of anyone freshly brought into the system.
Obama is stuck. He's facing a completely Republican-controlled congress. If he attempts to take action through executive order, he will be immediately and happily impeached for attempting to violate the constitutional process. This congress will never try to convene a constitutional convention to affect a change in gun laws.
We are safe for now.
But if this system makes it another 8 years without collapsing (and we are very, very close to collapse), you can rest assured that the next Democratic candidate will make gun restrictions a major plank in their platform.
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Upvoats_McGoats ago
Guys, think about this for a second. Why would 9/11 have been setup by the government? Well, look at what it allowed them to do in the wake of it. The world has been changed forever because of that event and the "justification" for future events.
Now, what has changed since Sandy Hook? Barely a damn thing. Nothing has changed at the Federal level (where this would have to be organized) and only a small number of very liberal Governors and Mayors were able to pass things like magazine limits.
The number of people you'd have to bribe and keep quiet about this sort of thing far exceeds just the people who were directly related to those 20 kids. You'd have to bribe the entire town. And for what? Basically nothing has changed!!
DaBagel ago
While I see your point that nothing much has changed, it's possible that the aim of this event was thought control. People's views on guns have changed and not necessarily the gun laws.
Upvoats_McGoats ago
I don't really see any change in views on guns. Maybe a few people were switched in their minds to wanting tougher gun control but nothing came of it.
What I will say this has done is be yet another grotesque event that is wrapped up in the fabric of our society. We're getting used to this. We bombed a damn Doctors Without Borders Hospital - I don't hear anybody talking about it around the office. I don't see any massive protests. What would citizens have done in the 60's/70's if security agency documents were leaked at the same level as Edward Snowden documents of recent years? I think people would have rioted in DC, honestly. Now? We get this slow leak after leak of information.
We're being conditioned to not see these horrifying abuses of power, corruption or outright murder in front of us as anything out of the ordinary. We're also being conditioned to realize that even if we did rise up we wouldn't win.
That's the only real reason I could say for a mass murder but, if we're honest, crazy people carry them out regularly every year. There's zero reason for the government to stage Sandy Hook from what I can see.
poly ago
Gun control was achieved in Australia only after a string of high profile shootings accompanied by media hype. Didne we just have two shootings in one day recently? They wont stop staging these fake shootings until they get what they want.... and the the shootings will cease and the powers that be will say "see, gun control works", just like they did in Australia
Upvoats_McGoats ago
It seems like you're implying that all these shootings are fake? I mean, you can see the people bury their loved ones. I'm sorry but it's not possible for the government to rely on tens of thousands of people all pretending. I don't care how much money they offer people, there's no way a bunch of plebeians are going to turn thespian. These people would never be able to act that well.
DaBagel ago
Well said. That means that even if Sandy Hook wasn't completely staged, or at all, then it did effect thought control! People's thoughts are not their own.
Drenki ago
People's minds don't have to be changed necessarily, but the voices who believe in restricting firearms are growing louder and more insistent. That message is beginning to repeat over and over in the left-wing echo chamber and eventually it will just be the default attitude of anyone freshly brought into the system.
Obama is stuck. He's facing a completely Republican-controlled congress. If he attempts to take action through executive order, he will be immediately and happily impeached for attempting to violate the constitutional process. This congress will never try to convene a constitutional convention to affect a change in gun laws.
We are safe for now.
But if this system makes it another 8 years without collapsing (and we are very, very close to collapse), you can rest assured that the next Democratic candidate will make gun restrictions a major plank in their platform.