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MungFuSensei ago

Turning people racist? No. Inflaming racial tension? Very much yes. Of course, the racists get to be loud and proud now, alongside those who are trying to discuss legitimate racial issues, so it does seem like the hatred is spreading.

I don't hate any race, but I do think each race needs to admit their social shortcomings. Political power would seek to abuse such honest introspection to create more division.

So, instead of using our new honesty to solve problems, it will be used to create them. They can't get us to argue about "family values", religion, abortion, or gay rights anymore, so they turn up the volume on race. Now, no one's talking about TPP, the mine spill, China's economy, Nestle, etc. They're talking about some idiot reporter (who conveniently filmed his crimes in first person, too).

You get the picture. I just wish we were all mature enough to realize not everyone who criticizes us hates us.

Mongo- ago

I don't hate any race, but I do think each race needs to admit their social shortcomings.

For that matter I think we need to come to terms with the fact that race is almost entirely incidental. It's not responsible for any of this. Circumstances are. Systemically impoverished groups face hardship whether they're in a ghetto or a trailer park. Race is not responsible for any of this shit. It's poor upbringing, it's poor resources, it's poor economic situations. It's culture. We can separate cultural groups by color, but we also plainly understand that race isn't a requirement of cultural behavior either.

I don't see what's happening on Voat as a planned conspiracy so much as a result of the ongoing division that continues. So long as we persist to allow haves and have-nots we'll continue to have these problems. When we as a society can stand on equal footing we will all come to realize how trivial the differences were.

The news media is responsible for it's bullshit but we need to take responsibility for buying in to it.

UserName1488 ago

Systemically impoverished groups face hardship whether they're in a ghetto or a trailer park. Race is not responsible for any of this shit. It's poor upbringing, it's poor resources, it's poor economic situations.

Then how do you explain the incredibly low crime rate of extremely empoverished Appalachian white communities?

Mongo- ago

I'll skip the humorous typo and say that I grew up in Appalachia and those folks are no shining beacon of civility by any means. Rampant drug abuse and violence abound and an absence of law doesn't mean an absence of lawlessness. That region is full of "2 cop" towns, and plenty of people willing to lie for each other, and if we get dirty cops in areas with greater oversight how is not pretty obvious that when there's exceptionally little oversight things don't run smoothly? Another major factor which contributes is what I could call economic confrontation.

Statistically speaking the only clear determinate of negative cultural activity is income inequality. The more equal a general population, the better things seem to run. So in the mountains you have a whole bunch of people living in roughly the same shitty circumstances and often well spread out. Poor black communities are generally concentrated around cities where by the very nature of the city they are in close proximity to vast economic disparity. This is the case whether people are equally rich or equally poor. I believe one study found that the above average rich of Sweden had higher infant mortality. The greater your deviation from the mean the more likely to have problems. That's a big cultural roadblock.