You didn't always need a license to drive. You didn't always need insurance to have a car. You didn't always need training or licenses to hunt, or to fish, or do any number of other things.
And now you do. And they found their pieces of paper. And they found their funds (or yours, rather). And they made all the states play along.
There's no leap involved. It's really easy. They do it all the time. And they'll do it again.
Your point being? You think they won't be able to come up with exactly the same kind of rationalization for covid?
Here, watch:
Corona licenses were implemented because many people failed to conform to health and safety standards in the workplace and in public, and so it was necessary in order to enable reopening the economy and to allow everyone to return to their new normal.
There. Done and dusted. Anyone who disagrees is just being selfish.
I don't even know why you need this to be spelled out, or why you thought your list of excuses somehow made those licenses totally different from this license. All licenses are based on exactly the same sheepish mindset and brainless compliance: The idea that we need the government's help and permission to do anything beyond wiping our asses. Give them enough time, and enough naive fools like you, and they'll get to that one as well.
Ok so the reasons I "done and dusted" your examples hold no bearing on how bullshit they were?
So you move the goal posts to suddenly conform to your bias and make some shit up, but you dont realize how a vaccine cannot be mandatory....religion for example of the protected class....like Muslim or Jews if you wanna use the racist angle.....they won't take it as it will not be allowed under their belief.
Then you have Americans with disabilities that can say whatever they want........
What are you even talking about? You're just blabbering incoherently at this point.
Did any such concerns stop them from implementing any of their previous licenses? Or any of their other infringements on our freedoms?
Next you'll tell me it's simply impossible for the government to suspend freedom of assembly or to fine people for going to church. Oh wait. THEY ALREADY DID.
If some small "protected class" minority kicks up a fuss, they do what they always do in those situations. They quietly make exceptions for them. And carry on enforcing on everyone who doesn't fight back. This is nothing new. We're not talking about some crazy, unprecedented, never seen before behavior. We're talking about the same shit they have done over and over and over again. And they keep doing it, because you keep being too fucking stupid to see it coming, even when it's spelled out for you.
Sure....resort to labels so you can dehumanize someone and make it easier to vilify them.
Your wrong....time will show it...you and those like you will find something else to focus on. It is what people like you do.....propagate fear to gain favor and produce a following.
Never address the person discussing something with you...its downvote and label.....seriously get better at this or form a better theory.
I didn't downvote a single one of your comments here. Want screenshots?
I also gave you several paragraphs of thought-out arguments and sound reasoning, and didn't resort to being belligerently dismissive until you did.
Believe what you like. Time will tell.
And when it does, you will forget. Or at least you'll pretend you did. As you always do. Because you'll buy into those little lies they'll sell you. Because that's easier than the alternative. Because, then, you can keep pretending that everything is fine. And you won't feel the need to risk your hide to do anything about it. Which is why everything is the way it is. And why it will only get worse.
Instead of whining about being labeled, you should be asking yourself, why, if the label is so meaningless and undeserved, why, then, is it so obvious what you are? It's not about your age, or when you were born. Nobody cares about that.
There is a distinct pattern of behaviors and mindsets that are as unmistakable as they are toxic. And that's not something meaningless. That's not something you are born with and can't do anything about. It is something significant. It is something that affects those around you. And it is, most certainly, on you.
Lol you wrote 4 examples to which I addressed each one and the reasons by which they were implemented....each one. They all check out...they all make sense, and can be looked up for anyone wondering.
The money for hunting license is even shown where the money goes to the penny with each states web portal for hunting....maybe not every state, but I know mine does and on the receipt.
You need validation for your bias and its only bias...you need to be right so bad you will name call, vilify, and pretend as if you dont understand to dismiss opposition. You won't dispute what I said...you will just throw out more false narratives.
Time and time....people far better than you do this on reddit......more on Twitter, and they are paid professionals at this...you are not, and it shows because you wont dispute what I said for reasons of why other license you named were implemented.
I addressed your counter with a page that the DOD explicitly said NOT AN ID, and then the AP article that so many used because every single link on search results links to it via a host of outlets said it isnt mandatory due to the religious aspects and ADA exemption.
Yet there you are.....using your superior intelligence to label me, now you try to be the nice guy with this comment to barter you some support.
Honestly I don't care if you called me a kike nosed nigger dick sucker or a boomer....its all a label to dehumanizing so that you can justify in your mind that I am less than you.....its obvious you can't have a discussion with opposition because this is where you go.
Far as downvote....no....I don't need you to quickly alter your screen to capture an image. Your insignificant contribution to the point scaling doesn't effect my overall in the slightest.
Real people here know me....met me, had a meal with me even....you know....not some activity that will matter nothing by tommrow....reason being is that next year come summer I still won't have a Vax and I will still be traveling the USA going state to state.....no blockade....no impediment.....because your fear doesn't motivate me.
It disappoints me.....much as most of the content within this site.....yours is like so many....zero validity and not a shred of intelligence to it.
You have a better day than yesterday stranger....or don't and keep on the train.
Lol you wrote 4 examples to which I addressed each one and the reasons by which they were implemented....each one. They all check out...
They're also all completely irrelevant to the point. I don't see how or why you think any of that matters.
Yes, they named "reasons" why they required those licenses, certifications, fees, etc. And? What is your point?
You think they won't be able to come up with "reasons" this time? They've already found "reasons" enough to shut half the country down, destroy 50 million jobs, and put the population on de facto house arrest... but you think they'll come up short finding "reasons" to make you get a vaccination certificate? I can't underclock my brain enough to figure out how that can possibly make sense to you. You have to be a really special kind of stupid.
This is why I called you a retard. It's not even an insult. I'm genuinely wondering whether you are actually clinically retarded at this point.
and it shows because you wont dispute what I said for reasons of why other license you named were implemented.
There's nothing to dispute here. You stated several obvious facts that are true but irrelevant. Stating facts that are true doesn't make you right. It has to connect. There has to be a point. You might as well have said the grass is green and the sky is blue. Yes. That's right. They are. Well done. So what?
You haven't made a point. What is your point?
Far as downvote....no....I don't need you to quickly alter your screen to capture an image. Your insignificant contribution to the point scaling doesn't effect my overall in the slightest.
For someone who isn't concerned with it, you sure talk about it a lot.
I addressed your counter with a page that the DOD explicitly said NOT AN ID, and then the AP article
You haven't linked or referenced anything in responses to me.
Such a mandate would be triggered into effect if public health officials determine that New Yorkers “are not developing sufficient immunity from Covid-19,” the bill says. The only exceptions would be people who have exemptions written by their doctors for medical reasons.
There's your reason.
The bill was referred to the State Assembly’s Health Committee for discussion. It was introduced weeks after the New York State Bar Association passed a resolution urging the state to mandate Covid-19 vaccinations and deny exemptions for “religious, philosophical or personal reasons.”
And there go your religious rights, straight out the window.
Wait, wait... I have visions... of you whining... "B-but, t-that's just New York! It w-would never happen anywhere else!"
Time always tells. And you'll always find excuses.
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AR47 ago
How will this certificate be made? A piece of paper? Who will fund this?
Where will it be made?
How can the "swamp" or your chosen name for "them" get all states to comply?
So many questions that need answered before the leap to some massive scale event like this will be implemented.
Glory_Beckons ago
All these questions are insignificant noise.
You didn't always need a license to drive. You didn't always need insurance to have a car. You didn't always need training or licenses to hunt, or to fish, or do any number of other things.
And now you do. And they found their pieces of paper. And they found their funds (or yours, rather). And they made all the states play along.
There's no leap involved. It's really easy. They do it all the time. And they'll do it again.
All they need, is for you to do nothing about it.
AR47 ago
Then fear is what you propose?
Just make sure to fear everything and suspect at all times because that state of constant paranoid behavior works so well?
Seriously you people need to just relax......or don't and let that shit consume you.
Glory_Beckons ago
That is not what I proposed. And you neglected to even try to point out where I am wrong.
AR47 ago
https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy/4151721/26720129
Glory_Beckons ago
???
Your point being? You think they won't be able to come up with exactly the same kind of rationalization for covid?
Here, watch:
There. Done and dusted. Anyone who disagrees is just being selfish.
I don't even know why you need this to be spelled out, or why you thought your list of excuses somehow made those licenses totally different from this license. All licenses are based on exactly the same sheepish mindset and brainless compliance: The idea that we need the government's help and permission to do anything beyond wiping our asses. Give them enough time, and enough naive fools like you, and they'll get to that one as well.
AR47 ago
Ok so the reasons I "done and dusted" your examples hold no bearing on how bullshit they were?
So you move the goal posts to suddenly conform to your bias and make some shit up, but you dont realize how a vaccine cannot be mandatory....religion for example of the protected class....like Muslim or Jews if you wanna use the racist angle.....they won't take it as it will not be allowed under their belief.
Then you have Americans with disabilities that can say whatever they want........
Fail better comrade.
Glory_Beckons ago
What are you even talking about? You're just blabbering incoherently at this point.
Did any such concerns stop them from implementing any of their previous licenses? Or any of their other infringements on our freedoms?
Next you'll tell me it's simply impossible for the government to suspend freedom of assembly or to fine people for going to church. Oh wait. THEY ALREADY DID.
If some small "protected class" minority kicks up a fuss, they do what they always do in those situations. They quietly make exceptions for them. And carry on enforcing on everyone who doesn't fight back. This is nothing new. We're not talking about some crazy, unprecedented, never seen before behavior. We're talking about the same shit they have done over and over and over again. And they keep doing it, because you keep being too fucking stupid to see it coming, even when it's spelled out for you.
You boomer-brained retard.
AR47 ago
Sure....resort to labels so you can dehumanize someone and make it easier to vilify them.
Your wrong....time will show it...you and those like you will find something else to focus on. It is what people like you do.....propagate fear to gain favor and produce a following.
Never address the person discussing something with you...its downvote and label.....seriously get better at this or form a better theory.
Glory_Beckons ago
I didn't downvote a single one of your comments here. Want screenshots?
I also gave you several paragraphs of thought-out arguments and sound reasoning, and didn't resort to being belligerently dismissive until you did.
Believe what you like. Time will tell.
And when it does, you will forget. Or at least you'll pretend you did. As you always do. Because you'll buy into those little lies they'll sell you. Because that's easier than the alternative. Because, then, you can keep pretending that everything is fine. And you won't feel the need to risk your hide to do anything about it. Which is why everything is the way it is. And why it will only get worse.
Instead of whining about being labeled, you should be asking yourself, why, if the label is so meaningless and undeserved, why, then, is it so obvious what you are? It's not about your age, or when you were born. Nobody cares about that.
There is a distinct pattern of behaviors and mindsets that are as unmistakable as they are toxic. And that's not something meaningless. That's not something you are born with and can't do anything about. It is something significant. It is something that affects those around you. And it is, most certainly, on you.
AR47 ago
Several paragraphs?
Lol you wrote 4 examples to which I addressed each one and the reasons by which they were implemented....each one. They all check out...they all make sense, and can be looked up for anyone wondering.
The money for hunting license is even shown where the money goes to the penny with each states web portal for hunting....maybe not every state, but I know mine does and on the receipt.
You need validation for your bias and its only bias...you need to be right so bad you will name call, vilify, and pretend as if you dont understand to dismiss opposition. You won't dispute what I said...you will just throw out more false narratives.
Time and time....people far better than you do this on reddit......more on Twitter, and they are paid professionals at this...you are not, and it shows because you wont dispute what I said for reasons of why other license you named were implemented.
I addressed your counter with a page that the DOD explicitly said NOT AN ID, and then the AP article that so many used because every single link on search results links to it via a host of outlets said it isnt mandatory due to the religious aspects and ADA exemption.
Yet there you are.....using your superior intelligence to label me, now you try to be the nice guy with this comment to barter you some support.
Honestly I don't care if you called me a kike nosed nigger dick sucker or a boomer....its all a label to dehumanizing so that you can justify in your mind that I am less than you.....its obvious you can't have a discussion with opposition because this is where you go.
Far as downvote....no....I don't need you to quickly alter your screen to capture an image. Your insignificant contribution to the point scaling doesn't effect my overall in the slightest.
Real people here know me....met me, had a meal with me even....you know....not some activity that will matter nothing by tommrow....reason being is that next year come summer I still won't have a Vax and I will still be traveling the USA going state to state.....no blockade....no impediment.....because your fear doesn't motivate me.
It disappoints me.....much as most of the content within this site.....yours is like so many....zero validity and not a shred of intelligence to it.
You have a better day than yesterday stranger....or don't and keep on the train.
Glory_Beckons ago
They're also all completely irrelevant to the point. I don't see how or why you think any of that matters.
Yes, they named "reasons" why they required those licenses, certifications, fees, etc. And? What is your point?
You think they won't be able to come up with "reasons" this time? They've already found "reasons" enough to shut half the country down, destroy 50 million jobs, and put the population on de facto house arrest... but you think they'll come up short finding "reasons" to make you get a vaccination certificate? I can't underclock my brain enough to figure out how that can possibly make sense to you. You have to be a really special kind of stupid.
This is why I called you a retard. It's not even an insult. I'm genuinely wondering whether you are actually clinically retarded at this point.
There's nothing to dispute here. You stated several obvious facts that are true but irrelevant. Stating facts that are true doesn't make you right. It has to connect. There has to be a point. You might as well have said the grass is green and the sky is blue. Yes. That's right. They are. Well done. So what?
You haven't made a point. What is your point?
For someone who isn't concerned with it, you sure talk about it a lot.
You haven't linked or referenced anything in responses to me.
How about I link you to something: https://www.rt.com/usa/509061-new-york-vaccine-mandate/
Here's some highlights:
There's your reason.
And there go your religious rights, straight out the window.
Wait, wait... I have visions... of you whining... "B-but, t-that's just New York! It w-would never happen anywhere else!"
Time always tells. And you'll always find excuses.
AR47 ago
Ok then
Have a better day than yesterday.
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