This article is a retarded reading of the 14th. What it says about insurrection is that you can't not count someone's vote unless they are a felon or participated in rebellion (and there's a damned good chance, prob 80%, that any judge will rule that it meant specifically the Civil War.) Yes, he could remove officials (while at the same time admitting that he allowed a civil war to break out on his watch, which is unlikely) but the bullshit about pulling away electors is entirely wrong. At best, they could argue that white men were prevented from voting and do some census shenanigans to reduce the number of electors. The rest of it is a half-wit fever dream.
The reality is that the way out of this shit isn't to try to out-Jew the Jews, but to fucking win the election beyond the margin of fraud. Let Hillary 2.0 waste time planning bullshit like this. We will just WIN, and they can go drinking in the forest or whatever teh fuck she said she was doing while not being President.
authority is in the Insurrection Act - 14th Amendment section 3 defines "Insurrection"
No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Hmm don't forget, the document says Congress, and I suspect it means both the house and Senate... Because the technical definition of Congress includes both... So if it means both and not just the house, then yeah it's not happening.
Not that part of the 14th amendment it doesn't say that. Read it again.... At the end it says Congress could basically UNDO the arrest for insurrection but it doesn't say who would initially make the insurrection charges which uh duh that's the justice department which actauclly falls under trump.
Dude YOURE the one reading it wrong first it says how you can't be a governor or senator because you were treasonous (that's your disability, you cannot serve the country any more because you fucked up the first time you're disabled) then it the last line you're speaking of says Congress can vote to remove your disability so you can serve again, this is so if what you did was in agreeance of 2/3rds you're freed from your charges... It isn't saying Congress must be the one charging you it's saying they can remove the conviction....
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Notice how it says BUT!!!! CONGRESS CAN REMOVE THE DISABOLITY.. it means they can basically pardon you if you're found guilty of insurrection....
I suppose the idea is that if two thirds of elected officials were to support a given faction, then that faction would by definition not be an insurrection, but rather the establishment.
I think the real plan is to force a fair election to happen.
The democrats plan is mass mail in voting which will cause a contested election that'll take a month or longer to figure out. During which pelosi acts as interim president and fucks with everything.
I see no advantage to stripping votes away from States, all hell would break loose.
from what i can read if the POTUS thing isnt settled then they all get removed and temps get installed anyway.
and that continuation of government thing she was bragging about, shes only next in line if both trump and pence get offed before the end of their terms so she either thinks she has something up her sleeve or shes just flat out deluded.
Pelosi, like all other Representatives and 1/3rd of Senators will leave office on January 3rd. It is almost certain that she will also take office on January 3rd. However, if the election results for her district aren't in, then she will not take office on that date. Her seat will be empty.
Also, it is possible that Republicans will win the House. In that case, they would not elect Pelosi to be speaker.
Trump needs to take out all these gutless shills, like yesterday's trash, like the one above me, as well. Defund these little pricks and make em do some real work.
Bravo1XRay ago
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happyfacemcgee ago
if this is pulled off I would shit a brick. and do a happy dance
everlastingphelps ago
This article is a retarded reading of the 14th. What it says about insurrection is that you can't not count someone's vote unless they are a felon or participated in rebellion (and there's a damned good chance, prob 80%, that any judge will rule that it meant specifically the Civil War.) Yes, he could remove officials (while at the same time admitting that he allowed a civil war to break out on his watch, which is unlikely) but the bullshit about pulling away electors is entirely wrong. At best, they could argue that white men were prevented from voting and do some census shenanigans to reduce the number of electors. The rest of it is a half-wit fever dream.
The reality is that the way out of this shit isn't to try to out-Jew the Jews, but to fucking win the election beyond the margin of fraud. Let Hillary 2.0 waste time planning bullshit like this. We will just WIN, and they can go drinking in the forest or whatever teh fuck she said she was doing while not being President.
paralentor ago
Millions would be 10000% behind this action.
Drenki ago
pure fantasy
Fateswebb ago
I hate that this site is so widely banned because this article is pretty awesome. I made clippings of some of the finer points and shared them.
Ghostofmajorkong ago
I sure hope so.
Steinmacher ago
https://files.catbox.moe/3bfcjf.jpg
mmabouncer ago
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxiv
Not sure I see this as a possiblity.. Is there a better source than this?
heygeorge ago
Nearly any source is a better source than NN.
Steinmacher ago
authority is in the Insurrection Act - 14th Amendment section 3 defines "Insurrection"
No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Fateswebb ago
Oh so this means Congress with 2/3s can reinstate a insurrectionist? Hmmm
Steinmacher ago
technically, yes.
Fateswebb ago
Hmm don't forget, the document says Congress, and I suspect it means both the house and Senate... Because the technical definition of Congress includes both... So if it means both and not just the house, then yeah it's not happening.
Steinmacher ago
14th amendment says congress has authority to enforce the 14th amendment, don't get hung up on the last sentence of the amendment.
Insurrection act is where Trumps authority to activate troops and arrest insurrectionists comes from. Its called balance of power.
Fateswebb ago
Not that part of the 14th amendment it doesn't say that. Read it again.... At the end it says Congress could basically UNDO the arrest for insurrection but it doesn't say who would initially make the insurrection charges which uh duh that's the justice department which actauclly falls under trump.
Steinmacher ago
Read the last sentence of the amendment. It literally says congress must enforce it.
And it takes 2/3 to override President declaration under the insurrection act.
Fateswebb ago
Dude YOURE the one reading it wrong first it says how you can't be a governor or senator because you were treasonous (that's your disability, you cannot serve the country any more because you fucked up the first time you're disabled) then it the last line you're speaking of says Congress can vote to remove your disability so you can serve again, this is so if what you did was in agreeance of 2/3rds you're freed from your charges... It isn't saying Congress must be the one charging you it's saying they can remove the conviction....
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
Notice how it says BUT!!!! CONGRESS CAN REMOVE THE DISABOLITY.. it means they can basically pardon you if you're found guilty of insurrection....
FPSFairy ago
I suppose the idea is that if two thirds of elected officials were to support a given faction, then that faction would by definition not be an insurrection, but rather the establishment.
Fateswebb ago
Well, I mean... If 2/3rds is there then probably so is a constitutional amendment anyway, so you're right is it really an insurrection?
BitterBiped ago
If Trump actually did this, I would fucking be diamonds for a year. Though given his track record I am gonna have to hire prostitutes instead.
AltUserMe ago
I think the real plan is to force a fair election to happen.
The democrats plan is mass mail in voting which will cause a contested election that'll take a month or longer to figure out. During which pelosi acts as interim president and fucks with everything.
I see no advantage to stripping votes away from States, all hell would break loose.
ScottMAGA ago
Only if she is speaker during that time. Her term ends before Trump's.
i_scream_trucks ago
from what i can read if the POTUS thing isnt settled then they all get removed and temps get installed anyway.
and that continuation of government thing she was bragging about, shes only next in line if both trump and pence get offed before the end of their terms so she either thinks she has something up her sleeve or shes just flat out deluded.
brandnewset ago
If only someone was opposing her
ScottMAGA ago
Pelosi, like all other Representatives and 1/3rd of Senators will leave office on January 3rd. It is almost certain that she will also take office on January 3rd. However, if the election results for her district aren't in, then she will not take office on that date. Her seat will be empty.
Also, it is possible that Republicans will win the House. In that case, they would not elect Pelosi to be speaker.
i_scream_trucks ago
i wonder if the democrats would have her as speaker again if they win it?
AltUserMe ago
That thing's term ends?
i_scream_trucks ago
does if you put a bullet in it.
Wheatstone ago
Hilary!!!
hollywood2020 ago
fuck trump, where is the weiner/laptop, they are all the same
i_scream_trucks ago
you can blame the nypd people who keep dangling it out saying if you dont say something we will, but dont.
ilovejuices3 ago
Just fucking release the weiner laptop and let the mob sort out the rest
intel819 ago
in due time.
gosso920 ago
tRuSt tHe pLaN!
cueanon2 ago
Trump needs to take out all these gutless shills, like yesterday's trash, like the one above me, as well. Defund these little pricks and make em do some real work.