At this point they've been so sloppy about determining cause of death, there would be no way to get an accurate number without exhuming bodies. But I stronly suspect a review of death certificates would take cut this number down to a few hundreds of properly tested and confirmed deaths, if that.
Virtually all corona deaths have one or more severe co-morbidities.
The problem with serology antibody tests (the standard test) is they don't directly detect or quantify the amount of the virus. They only say you've been exposed to it sometime recently. For all they know, you could have completely eliminated the virus by the time they test you.
The rtPCR tests that directly detect the virus also replicate the particles, so quantification with rtPCR is not terribly accurate.
Even the late creator of PCR said that it wasn’t good for viruses and wasn’t a quantitative test. Never mind the fact that there is no gold standard, the virus in question hasn’t been isolated, so there is no way to test the accuracy.
it's been isolated and the sequence is public. the only legitimate quantifying test, RNA-seq, isn't approved for clinical diagnostic use because the FDA like to drag their feet
Random sequences of RNA are being sequenced — presumably. The virus has not been actually isolated nor shown to meet Koch’s postulates for causing infectious disease. What they are calling “isolating” is actually a body fluid sample mixed with non-host cell culture, antibiotics, and not the scientific definition of isolation, which is to grow something in a pure culture.
There are about 20 different labs with published isolate sequences. How accurate those are is up for debate but they have high concordance with known bat coronaviruses. the meme of sharing 95% dna with chimps etc is misleading, not relevant here because it depends how one describes "sharing" dna which is subjective based on how the comparison is done. you could say you share 100% of your DNA with a slug, because you share the same exact ACGT nucleotides, just in a different order
RNA seq without PCR can quantify as little as a one virus particle in a sample. it's a very accurate test.
Sorry but the virus exists, and it's infectious, and it's synthetic. I know enough about this stuff to tell you that it's real.
Haha, you have no way of making those claims. It has not been shown to be infectious whatsoever, by any of Koch’s postulates, and all case numbers speak against a pandemic since the ratio of positive tests does not rise against the total number of tests administered. There is no proof of the virus existing whatsoever other than misleading paper titles and appeals to authority.
Ok well a virus with high genomic sequence identity to the alleged covid 2019 was engineered specifically to infect human airway cells, published in 2015 in Nature. And isolates sharing that sequence have popped up all over the planet. but i'm sure it's a big conspiracy to just make up "random" sequence data that happens to be very similar to other sars bat coronaviruses.
This is where your retarded idea falls apart. it's "random rna" yet it has high sequence identity to previous sars coronaviruses
“The virus exists” is not even a statement you can demonstrably make using the scientific principles of observability, empiricism, and repeatability. That the virus doesn’t exist is a tentative scientific belief in the purest form. If I asked you to substantiate that statement you would fail to do anything except appeal to authority.
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meowski ago
At this point they've been so sloppy about determining cause of death, there would be no way to get an accurate number without exhuming bodies. But I stronly suspect a review of death certificates would take cut this number down to a few hundreds of properly tested and confirmed deaths, if that.
Virtually all corona deaths have one or more severe co-morbidities.
JohnGaltApproves ago
There have only been 13,000 confirmed COVID hospitalizations nationwide since 3/1.
blackguard19 ago
And since the test that determines those case numbers is clinically meaningless, and hasn’t been proven to work, make that 0 confirmed.
meowski ago
The problem with serology antibody tests (the standard test) is they don't directly detect or quantify the amount of the virus. They only say you've been exposed to it sometime recently. For all they know, you could have completely eliminated the virus by the time they test you.
The rtPCR tests that directly detect the virus also replicate the particles, so quantification with rtPCR is not terribly accurate.
blackguard19 ago
Even the late creator of PCR said that it wasn’t good for viruses and wasn’t a quantitative test. Never mind the fact that there is no gold standard, the virus in question hasn’t been isolated, so there is no way to test the accuracy.
meowski ago
it's been isolated and the sequence is public. the only legitimate quantifying test, RNA-seq, isn't approved for clinical diagnostic use because the FDA like to drag their feet
blackguard19 ago
Random sequences of RNA are being sequenced — presumably. The virus has not been actually isolated nor shown to meet Koch’s postulates for causing infectious disease. What they are calling “isolating” is actually a body fluid sample mixed with non-host cell culture, antibiotics, and not the scientific definition of isolation, which is to grow something in a pure culture.
https://youtu.be/NYr2jJf-zZ0
meowski ago
There are about 20 different labs with published isolate sequences. How accurate those are is up for debate but they have high concordance with known bat coronaviruses. the meme of sharing 95% dna with chimps etc is misleading, not relevant here because it depends how one describes "sharing" dna which is subjective based on how the comparison is done. you could say you share 100% of your DNA with a slug, because you share the same exact ACGT nucleotides, just in a different order
RNA seq without PCR can quantify as little as a one virus particle in a sample. it's a very accurate test.
Sorry but the virus exists, and it's infectious, and it's synthetic. I know enough about this stuff to tell you that it's real.
blackguard19 ago
Haha, you have no way of making those claims. It has not been shown to be infectious whatsoever, by any of Koch’s postulates, and all case numbers speak against a pandemic since the ratio of positive tests does not rise against the total number of tests administered. There is no proof of the virus existing whatsoever other than misleading paper titles and appeals to authority.
meowski ago
Ok well a virus with high genomic sequence identity to the alleged covid 2019 was engineered specifically to infect human airway cells, published in 2015 in Nature. And isolates sharing that sequence have popped up all over the planet. but i'm sure it's a big conspiracy to just make up "random" sequence data that happens to be very similar to other sars bat coronaviruses.
This is where your retarded idea falls apart. it's "random rna" yet it has high sequence identity to previous sars coronaviruses
this conversation is over. put down the bong.
blackguard19 ago
“The virus exists” is not even a statement you can demonstrably make using the scientific principles of observability, empiricism, and repeatability. That the virus doesn’t exist is a tentative scientific belief in the purest form. If I asked you to substantiate that statement you would fail to do anything except appeal to authority.