I think he's off base, he's a smart guy and I get the concern but I don't think this is the root of the issue by any means, I think he doesn't grasp the threat the virus poses, I think most people on voat cannot fathom how bad things could be right now and how much worse they could still get if we don't act carefully.

I'll briefly remind everyone here of the numbers,in the US: 644,188 infected 28,579(4.436%) dead. In the world 2,071,710 infected, 137,029(6.614%) dead, people here still describe this as flu when the only reason anyone could call it flu is because they heard it called WuFlu, symptomatically it's unlike flu in most ways, malaria has about as much in common with flu as does SARS-CoV-2. But if you want to compare it to flu we can do that. 2018-2019 US flu season had 35,520,883 infections(zero quarantine efforts, spread from the whole world to each airport as soon as the environment became hospitable it was already here and took root) 34,157(0.096%) died from flu that flu season. Meaning the pandemic. with some of the best treatment available in the world, after the most expensive lockdown and containment effort in human history, is still 46.2 times deadlier than flu. Anyone who is deluded into thinking they can compare this virus to flu is caught up in a mental trap they have laid for themselves by prejudging what this thing was before they even knew. People will lie and say america is doing terribly, but in reality we are doing better than much of europe because we began to take this seriously early on and scrambled to get resources for our hospitals, how is Italy doing? they said "it's just a flu" 13.106% fatality mostly caused by Lombardy where it multiplied rapidly and unchecked beyond what their healthcare system could handle, a third of all people recorded as infected in Lombardy a dead, the hotter the "hotspot" the higher the deaths proportionally because the medical infrastructure can't handle the resources and personnel cost, spain tells a similar story and these are first world white nations, france is due for as big a hit, The US holds 1/4th of known cases but that 1/4th is fewer than half a percent of our population and most of the rest of the world has no clue what their infection rates are, people are just fucking dying without going to a hospital. So when I say he's off base He's comparing two things which aren't in the same category, this virus is so infectious we can't hold people as responsible for co-infection morbidity but we should consider people who are refusing to cooperate with the rest of society in such a dire time as a threat and if it takes laws to get these people to comply with a quarantine, to comply with social distancing then that is what it takes, it is a fair argument that people actively ignoring reasonable lockdown orders and containment protocols are a danger to themselves and others, the biggest problem is that detatched demagogues nor ignorant(to epidemiology) masses can accurately access "reasonable".

This new form of so called "murder" a sort of negligent manslaughter by proxy, firstly in rhetorical practice, and not legal practice, is a solid device by which to encourage people to morally assess their compliance with containment efforts, we need the public to remain organized for these containment efforts to be effective, I sympathize with people being frustrated about all of this but this isn't the new normal, the idea that it is is the root of the evil, the notion that we could accept perpetual quarantine as a de facto coup on our constitution and way of life is the root of the problem and the best way to defeat it is a public guarantee that we will rebel under specific circumstances: If the emergency powers and any state impositions on citizens put in place to combat this virus and maintain order are still in place by 06/2023, we will rebel, if anyone is micro-chipped, tattooed or marked in anyway to affirm their vaccination status, we will rebel, If churches are prevented from reasonable gatherings or persecuted for reasonable gatherings that obey strict social distancing rules, we will rebel, if the government takes actions to prevent citizens from arming themselves, we will rebel.

Normally such a thing is achieved by mass protest a protest which resembles a snake rattling it's tail as a warning, I suggest instead of gathering together during this time we use graffiti to frighten the state into complying with our demands, It is a national response to retain our rights, I think the simple conditions I've listed are about all that needs to be said, we just need a simple symbol people can spray on a wall with a spray can something uncolored by previous american politics something people can post online in text chat via a combination of emojis as strange as that might sound is probably a good idea.