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Joe_McCarthy ago

Certainly a traditional Catholic is not going to think his faith is of equal worth to Protestantism, or that a Protestant is just as likely to receive salvation as he is. If he believed they provided equal means to salvation he probably wouldn't be a Catholic. But if we're discussing racial equality, and we usually are when equality is mentioned on Voat, a black Catholic is equally eligible to salvation as any Catholic. And in a Catholic's eyes, likely more than a white Protestant.

But no, religion does not really teach equality in its essence. Certainly not the Semitic religions. Muslims certainly do not believe non-Muslims are equal to non-Muslims, for example, in any really important sense - certainly in matters of the spirit, but even in matters temporal.

mememeyou ago

are you well versed in the Semitic religions Joe?

Joe_McCarthy ago

Not especially. But I have studied religion from a comparative perspective and at one time studied in preparation for attending divinity school. Something I ultimately decided against.

mememeyou ago

Oh ya? Well I'm just messing with ya :P I'm not that versed myself, just respect Yuri and hadn't heard him say this.

Joe_McCarthy ago

It's an ok quote. Good for conversation certainly. I'm unsure it tells us much that is important though. Certainly if one is a racialist. Within Christianity, or within the various brands of Christianity, there is equality in spiritual matters, which unsurprisingly has been used to assist arguments for racial equality.

BoraxTheFungarian ago

"You now are a part of the body of Christ and a member in particular." Favorite verse because it highlights our cohesive equality in Christ as well as our importance as a unique individual.

Joe_McCarthy ago

If you are within that body. If you are not it is a different story. And the damned can include even those of different Christian sects. I mentioned traditional Catholics earlier. I could also have mentioned fundamentalist Protestants. Doubtful many of either think Morning are souritually equal to them. They may think they're going to hell. Some Catholics still don't think Protestants are Christians.

Etc.

BoraxTheFungarian ago

Yeah, I know, verses have context. It's my favorite verse... Pretty sure I said that.

All people are invited to become a part of the body of Christ. The Church of Christ is the body of believers themselves, not the religious organizations attempting to profit from them by seeking tax exemptions, only saying PC garbage in public and catering to pop music fans who sing blasphemous lyrics unwittingly.

Equality is equal opportunity, not equal outcome. Christians who think they can determine now whether a person is going to be saved when they die are the most ignorant of all. You're not more deserving of salvation than Hillary Clinton or George Soros. You might receive it, but not because you deserve it. But you just keep on thinkin' you're God's special boy on the inside. I'm sure that makes you so effective at reaching out to people, holding onto a holier than thou attitude.

According to what do you believe in hell? Because as far as I can tell, there is never a single mention in the Bible of any human going to hell.