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Lumidaub ago

Because there is no evidence that or how it does. Experience has shown that these kinds of claims are scams (or at least the inventor lying to themselves).

k_digi ago

Well actually nope I have evidence against your faith there :

The 'impossible' EM Drive does something 'impossible'

http://io9.com/new-test-suggests-nasas-impossible-em-drive-will-work-1701188933

The original inventor had all sorts of struggling against the faith based pseudo science you seem to believe in.

So why can your faith accept the EM drive now but still not accept another type of 'drive' ?

Is it that the science faith leaders will only accept so many new vectors?

Or is there a ritual the new people have to go though? Im trying actually to understand.

Lumidaub ago

I cannot claim to understand the EM drive, I'm not an engineer, I have limited knowledge in any technology.

But, as the artice states, the EM drive has been shown to work, meaning it's been tested under controlled circumstances. The water bike has not. We only have its inventor claiming it works.

Have scientists investigate the motor, try to find out how it works, test it under controlled circumstances. Then we can talk.

BTW, notice how nobody is celebrating the EM drive as the solution to all problems or anything like that or even saying "yes it definitely works".

See the headline on your article: "New Test Suggests". It doesn't prove.

Scientists are still very skeptical and continue to test it, while keeping in mind both the possibility that our understanding of some scientific law is wrong AND the possibility that the tests are just plainly giving false positives.

k_digi ago

Well we are already 'talking' and you have suggested it's 'fake' based on your science faith.

However that faith has been tested by the EM drive, so how do you know what to believe in?

I guess we need to try to find out more about the magic inside the 'water bike' ?

Lumidaub ago

Please note that you are talking to multiple people, I haven't said that it's "fake", although I tend to agree with that assessment.

My "faith" has been tested? How exactly? It just shows that either the tests are wrong or we haven't understood something yet.

Also, I don't "believe" in anything in the sense that you mean. I "accept as true" based on what seems reasonable to me and what doesn't contradict anything else.

find out more about the magic inside the 'water bike' ?

Yes. That is exactly what we should do. Except it's not on us to go looking for the evidence, it's up to the inventor to provide it (or at least provide the motor for testing).

k_digi ago

What do you think it is that we 'don't understand' ?

Or do you simply not believe in the EM drive 'magic' ?

Lumidaub ago

I don't "think we don't understand" something, I just keep in mind the fact that there are things we do not know yet and the possibility that we may be misunderstanding something about (a) law(s) of physics or that the tests they are running are returniung false positives.

Or do you simply not believe in the EM drive 'magic' ?

Huh?