I have a good one for you, not strictly related but a real head scratcher. Building 7 didn't really have a substantial basement for storage as it was built over an old Con Edison electrical substation, now this was 2001 when paper / cassette tapes / VHS and physical hard drives were storage mediums of choice. This building not only housed the FBI, CIA but also the secret service and the SEC. Where did they put all their old data, where was their on site storage for all the reams of data they were collecting, processing and archiving? WTC 6. A point of note for reference here is that the intelligence services in WTC 7 were later found to have been running spy operations on foreign diplomats in New York - and if that's what they admitted then god knows what else they were doing.
There was an underground passageway between the buildings to allow access from WTC 7 over to 6 and an agreement made that a portion of this space was to be used by clients from WTC 7. Now this is where this gets really interesting, have you ever heard of the FEMA cameraman Kurt Sonnenfeld? Few have he lives in hiding in Argentina after he was accused of shooting his wife at point blank range in the months following 9/11, but in 2009 he released footage that he had either failed to turn over to his employer or had simply made copies of the tapes.
Kurt was part of the team that was literally first to enter the WTC complex after the attacks and he recorded everything, as was his job. There are many things in those videos that I think were best unseen, 45* cut I beams, melted metals etc. when he entered WTC 6 the vaults were completely empty, no even a shred of paper left in them, totally cleaned out. Now the headline story was missing gold, but as described previously there was something more valuable than gold in there. The vaults in the port authority were emptied prior to the 9/11 attacks. There used to be an FDNY image of the building prior to the collapse of the twin towers showing extensive fire damage to the building I would have liked to link, but the internet is not being kind to me right now. Whoever got this data would have hit a blackmail motherload. Kurt's videos are available easily online and span 6-7 hours of raw footage if not more and shows uncategoric proof that whatever was stored in WTC 6 it was long gone by the time of the attacks.
Please post a link of it, I don't believe I've seen it and I make it a habit to consume as much information as possible about 9/11. For the past 18 years I've had a ritual of spending pretty much a whole day just watching and reading as much as a can on the topic, and a link to this would help me out.
Video footage, phone call recordings and paper trails of just about every international diplomat or person of interest that had set foot in new york over the preceding 10 years, that had the misfortune to so much as j walk while in the city. I imagine there was probably a lot of data collected 'incidentally' on US diplomats and others too.
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LostandFound ago
He also owned WTC 7 and rented space the the CIA FBI and a whole host of other alphabet agencies.
JustFuckingDoIt ago
I used to hear rumours of a CIA/FBI saferoom within Building 7.
Any news of this within the "pull it" crowd?
LostandFound ago
I have a good one for you, not strictly related but a real head scratcher. Building 7 didn't really have a substantial basement for storage as it was built over an old Con Edison electrical substation, now this was 2001 when paper / cassette tapes / VHS and physical hard drives were storage mediums of choice. This building not only housed the FBI, CIA but also the secret service and the SEC. Where did they put all their old data, where was their on site storage for all the reams of data they were collecting, processing and archiving? WTC 6. A point of note for reference here is that the intelligence services in WTC 7 were later found to have been running spy operations on foreign diplomats in New York - and if that's what they admitted then god knows what else they were doing.
There was an underground passageway between the buildings to allow access from WTC 7 over to 6 and an agreement made that a portion of this space was to be used by clients from WTC 7. Now this is where this gets really interesting, have you ever heard of the FEMA cameraman Kurt Sonnenfeld? Few have he lives in hiding in Argentina after he was accused of shooting his wife at point blank range in the months following 9/11, but in 2009 he released footage that he had either failed to turn over to his employer or had simply made copies of the tapes.
Kurt was part of the team that was literally first to enter the WTC complex after the attacks and he recorded everything, as was his job. There are many things in those videos that I think were best unseen, 45* cut I beams, melted metals etc. when he entered WTC 6 the vaults were completely empty, no even a shred of paper left in them, totally cleaned out. Now the headline story was missing gold, but as described previously there was something more valuable than gold in there. The vaults in the port authority were emptied prior to the 9/11 attacks. There used to be an FDNY image of the building prior to the collapse of the twin towers showing extensive fire damage to the building I would have liked to link, but the internet is not being kind to me right now. Whoever got this data would have hit a blackmail motherload. Kurt's videos are available easily online and span 6-7 hours of raw footage if not more and shows uncategoric proof that whatever was stored in WTC 6 it was long gone by the time of the attacks.
/rant
badruns ago
Please post a link of it, I don't believe I've seen it and I make it a habit to consume as much information as possible about 9/11. For the past 18 years I've had a ritual of spending pretty much a whole day just watching and reading as much as a can on the topic, and a link to this would help me out.
LostandFound ago
I think this is the complete footage 7.5 hours worth of raw unedited first response on ground 0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KGaOj6S69E
european ago
Interesting read. What do tou think was stored in building 6?
LostandFound ago
Video footage, phone call recordings and paper trails of just about every international diplomat or person of interest that had set foot in new york over the preceding 10 years, that had the misfortune to so much as j walk while in the city. I imagine there was probably a lot of data collected 'incidentally' on US diplomats and others too.